Arena Mercs = Unrealistic Cutoff for top 200

EXØDUSEXØDUS Member Posts: 33
Kabam how are you going to address people using mercs to gain an unfair advantage in Arena rank rewards? This is going to make it much more difficult to achieve top 200 rank rewards for 5* DP Gold.

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  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9e36/d626c261e4c13496b3fce513317e4b6df6ee.pdf

    @DNA3000 This peer-reviewed article uses Workd of Warcraft as a reference. Do you know if these or similar methods could identify when players use scripts in arena?
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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,640 Guardian
    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9e36/d626c261e4c13496b3fce513317e4b6df6ee.pdf

    @DNA3000 This peer-reviewed article uses Workd of Warcraft as a reference. Do you know if these or similar methods could identify when players use scripts in arena?

    Hypothetically yes. Similar techniques are actually used in the "I am not a robot" captcha. Google does not describe all the techniques used in detecting scripting and botting web pages (obviously) but one technique that most people agree is being used by the "I am not a robot" captcha is a machine learning algorithm that can tell the difference between how a human being irregularly uses a mouse and the way a bot moves a mouse across the screen to click the button. In other words, the button itelf is actually not very important: how you go about moving to it to push it is actually more important to the captcha.

    Machine learning does have some advantages over the specific technique being described in the paper. The paper authors have spent time thinking about how, and in what specific ways, a programmed bot would differ from a human. A machine learning system wouldn't need to be told that: it would be trained on known examples of recorded human play and then compare that with some known bots' behavior. The system would then determine on its own what the specific characteristics of human beings don't show up in bot behavior.

    I do wonder if botting is going to become a more widespread problem over time, as Kabam's current restrictions on what you can play the game on are beginning to encompass general purpose computers beyond simpler smart devices. Technically, if Google Play or the iTunes App Store supports it, Kabam supports it. But the Google Play store now supports some Android-based laptop computers, and Apple announced plans to allow at least some iOS app store apps to run on future editions of Mac OSX desktop computers. That potentially increases the options for botting a gazillion-fold.
  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 wrote: »

    Hypothetically yes. Similar techniques are actually used in the "I am not a robot" captcha. Google does not describe all the techniques used in detecting scripting and botting web pages (obviously) but one technique that most people agree is being used by the "I am not a robot" captcha is a machine learning algorithm that can tell the difference between how a human being irregularly uses a mouse and the way a bot moves a mouse across the screen to click the button. In other words, the button itelf is actually not very important: how you go about moving to it to push it is actually more important to the captcha.

    Machine learning does have some advantages over the specific technique being described in the paper. The paper authors have spent time thinking about how, and in what specific ways, a programmed bot would differ from a human. A machine learning system wouldn't need to be told that: it would be trained on known examples of recorded human play and then compare that with some known bots' behavior. The system would then determine on its own what the specific characteristics of human beings don't show up in bot behavior.

    I do wonder if botting is going to become a more widespread problem over time, as Kabam's current restrictions on what you can play the game on are beginning to encompass general purpose computers beyond simpler smart devices. Technically, if Google Play or the iTunes App Store supports it, Kabam supports it. But the Google Play store now supports some Android-based laptop computers, and Apple announced plans to allow at least some iOS app store apps to run on future editions of Mac OSX desktop computers. That potentially increases the options for botting a gazillion-fold.

    Interesting. I glimpsed over the paper and saw - like you mentioned - that the authors detailed methods to counter bots/scripts attempts to mimic human MMO behavior, though most of the paper was beyond your comprehension. Cool to know that MMO cheating techniques like bots/scripts are gaining enough attention to warrant legitimate research.

    I have no problem losing out on arena rewards to players who outspend me but legitimately play their own accounts. Losing out on arena rewards to players who outspend me and have their accounts auto-run and auto-refresh arena champions is a different story.
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