Uncollected adaptoid. Yes again. Read on.

Yes I know I can stun lock him with Ronan and a few times I have done it but that means you only get 1 shot. Because if you sleep up once he kills you instantly.
After he killed my Ronan my Magik got him down to 25% and then died.
So my problem with this adaptoid is this: if you don't finish him before he gets down to 25% you might as well just quit because with auto power gain he gets to L1 without you even touching him which means after using it he gets unstoppable which means that with unblockable AND unstoppable you can't parry AND you can't intercept at all and by the time the unstoppable expires he usually gets power gain again and the cycle continues which mean no matter who you bring after is gonna die.

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Thecrusher_9756

Yes it’s tough but the unstoppable is only for like 3 seconds and the power gain isn’t permanent. You’ve just got to make sure you’re ready to intercept when unstoppable is over

Isman1998

Its just a bad fight and lazy game design.

Mfalls

Use Medusa with her armor shatter and none of these mechanics trigger while his armor is shattered

Spidey983

It's only a bad fight if you don't have the counters. Thankfully I had a few hundred units stacked up. I only have to beat him about 3 more times XD. If I had of r5 my scarlet witch this would be a breeze.

BK_AVENGER

Nebula with proxima synergy should shut him down

Shaun01

Why not just revive your Ronan? He's still one of the best options imo.

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ZzyzxGuy

Use SW, OGBP, Storm, Vision and Ronan.

2 MLLLMs will give you a bar of power. There should be no issue.

Solswerd

@Strategic you just have to be.....strategic.

Isman1998

BitterSteel wrote: »

Isman1998 wrote: »

Its just a bad fight and lazy game design.

Actually it’s very good game design, there are a lot of counters for it. A lot.

There’s so many different parts of the fight that you can think about and exploit, the fact it’s a robot, the large amount of buffs, the power gain, the healing. It’s only a bad fight if you let it.

I beat it. Did uncollected at 100%. I was lucky enough to dupe my 5 star Ronan a couple of weeks back. I think its so badly designed because of it needing specific champs to make the fight doable and unblockable attacks (Kabam has using this too much as of late). You shouldn't have to resort to exploits to beat something unless its the Yellow Devil in Mega Man 1.

I get what you're saying too about the counters its just that from the way I see it, this month you were screwed if you didn't have Ronan or Medusa.

But I think the quest overall for Uncollected was just terrible design. Forcing people to either take a class disadvantage or have their attack power cut in half. That stupid node Rage which makes all attacks unblockable after they get 5 furies which they are going to get unless you have someone that nullifies. Throwing broken/bugged characters in the quest with BS nodes. ( Domino and Modok)

Idk I know Uncollected is supposed to be hard but this month was more BS than hard. Just my opinion though.

Raganator

Isman1998 wrote: »

I get what you're saying too about the counters its just that from the way I see it, this month you were screwed if you didn't have Ronan or Medusa.

That is not even remotely true. Those champs just make it a non-challenge. People always expect to just walk through monthly with their standard champs (Blade ...cough...cough). Well bravo to Kabam for changing the direction and actually making the monthly EQ engaging.

megamang

This is the best event quest they've had since IG Thanos. This months quests ard hitting those who sell champs. I like having to seek out different champs to complete content, keeps things fresh.

Isman1998

Raganator wrote: »

Isman1998 wrote: »

I get what you're saying too about the counters its just that from the way I see it, this month you were screwed if you didn't have Ronan or Medusa.

That is not even remotely true. Those champs just make it a non-challenge. People always expect to just walk through monthly with their standard champs (Blade ...cough...cough). Well bravo to Kabam for changing the direction and actually making the monthly EQ engaging.

Not gonna argue with dense peeps today. Where did Blade even come from? Where did I mention him? Did I ever say that I wanted to just walk through Uncollected? This event quest is not engaging its boring, long and drawn out, and could overall be better. You have your opinion I have mine. ✌

Isman1998

BitterSteel wrote: »

Isman1998 wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

Isman1998 wrote: »

Its just a bad fight and lazy game design.

Actually it’s very good game design, there are a lot of counters for it. A lot.

There’s so many different parts of the fight that you can think about and exploit, the fact it’s a robot, the large amount of buffs, the power gain, the healing. It’s only a bad fight if you let it.

I beat it. Did uncollected at 100%. I was lucky enough to dupe my 5 star Ronan a couple of weeks back. I think its so badly designed because of it needing specific champs to make the fight doable and unblockable attacks (Kabam has using this too much as of late). You shouldn't have to resort to exploits to beat something unless its the Yellow Devil in Mega Man 1.

I get what you're saying too about the counters its just that from the way I see it, this month you were screwed if you didn't have Ronan or Medusa.

But I think the quest overall for Uncollected was just terrible design. Forcing people to either take a class disadvantage or have their attack power cut in half. That stupid node Rage which makes all attacks unblockable after they get 5 furies which they are going to get unless you have someone that nullifies. Throwing broken/bugged characters in the quest with BS nodes. ( Domino and Modok)

Idk I know Uncollected is supposed to be hard but this month was more BS than hard. Just my opinion though.

The point is to be a challenge, not to be something that you can take any champ in and be fine. It’s supposed to make you think.

I’d agree with the specific champs bit, if there weren’t about 30 different champs who could quite easily beat him. If you don’t believe me, I made a post detailing each one. I think I had about 23 options and other people added 8 or 9 more.

I didn’t have a Ronan or a medusa this month, or at least didn’t use them. My Ronan is 4* rank 3 and so is medusa. Rage is easy to deal with, take any mystic champion. Attack power cut in half is the same as doubling the Health. Not really an issue if you’ve become uncollected, you’ve dealt with worse.

The only thing I agree with what you’ve said is about domino, she is broken and should not be there. Modok is fine though.

It sure did make me think. It was challenging. But overall to me it was boring and could've been designed better. But I feel you we agree and disagree on some stuff and thats cool.

I'm curious though. Who did you use to beat Adaptoid without Ronan or Medusa?

Raganator

Isman1998 wrote: »

Raganator wrote: »

Isman1998 wrote: »

I get what you're saying too about the counters its just that from the way I see it, this month you were screwed if you didn't have Ronan or Medusa.

That is not even remotely true. Those champs just make it a non-challenge. People always expect to just walk through monthly with their standard champs (Blade ...cough...cough). Well bravo to Kabam for changing the direction and actually making the monthly EQ engaging.

Not gonna argue with dense peeps today. Where did Blade even come from? Where did I mention him? Did I ever say that I wanted to just walk through Uncollected? This event quest is not engaging its boring, long and drawn out, and could overall be better. You have your opinion I have mine. ✌

I'm dense because I state a fact? The fact is there are many counters. In fact, there is an entire thread to help guide people. If people choose to ignore that, then who is the dense one here? The boss fights were actually a challenge for once. In the last two years, I can think of three other semi-difficult EQ fights - Ice Phoenix, Guilly, and Thanos. Adaptoid, Heimdall and Red Skull actually presented interesting fights as opposed to mashing on the screen. So my opinion is, again, thank you Kabam for not being boring.

If your argument is that it could have been better - I'm legitimately curious as to your thoughts on how. As mentioned above, monthly EQ is as boring as arena. Mash through fights with the standard champs and collect your rewards. Sure, you could take in Ronan and smash the hell out of a few fights, but if you choose to do so, then so be it.

If your entire argument is "he's hard when below 25%" - then perhaps don't die when he is under 25%. That's part of the challenge.

Raganator

BitterSteel wrote: »

I used nebula with Proxima midnight synergy

I used a few different champs. Magik, Medusa, Corvus. On master I tried out several mystics with fate seal and stagger, also worked just fine.

Austin555555

This might not uncollected but it was an easy fight.

Raganator

Yeah DS was a long fight. Reminded me of fight ROL wolvierine with him.

Isman1998

Wait so you’ve got me curious too. What would you consider not boring? A fight I consider fun is one that makes me think, like infinity war thanos, or adaptoid. The opposite of a fight that makes you think is like ghost last month, who you can take literally anyone against. That’s boring, because there’s nothing going on. What’s fun to you?

I used nebula with Proxima midnight synergy [/quote]

I like things like Life Transfer, Brute Force, Power Shield, Flare, and the node switches your health bars for a little bit. I know those were sprinkled throughout the quest but I wanna see more of those. These nodes don't screw you over but keep you engaged.

Thanos was meh to me because the cutscenes which kept glitching out on me and let Thanos be right next to me and get an easy combo on me or with his death phase up just straight up killed me. I like the concept of Thanos I just would like to the cutscenes not be in the middle of the fight and stop my momentum. don't know what Uncollected was like last month because I was coming off a break from the game.

GroundedWisdom

As Bitter and BK mentioned, Nebs with the Proxima Synergy seems to work well. You just have to Bait the Specials and make sure you don't Parry unless you want to finish him off, otherwise you'll lose Charges and you won't have time to build 5 again.

GroundedWisdom

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

As Bitter and BK mentioned, Nebs with the Proxima Synergy seems to work well. You just have to Bait the Specials and make sure you don't Parry unless you want to finish him off, otherwise you'll lose Charges and you won't have time to build 5 again.

I’m curious, not trying to dig at you at all here, this comment seems a bit more positive about the adaptoid, almost like you don’t think it’s a Bs unbeatable too hard fight. Am I wrong? Do you still think it should be nerfed? Just curious.

I knew it would be brought up. Lol. I still think it's a bit extra. I didn't really agree with nerfing it. I think it could have done without something. Too much going on at once. So, I still feel the same way, but there are ways around the Fight and I'm just trying to be helpful.

GroundedWisdom

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

As Bitter and BK mentioned, Nebs with the Proxima Synergy seems to work well. You just have to Bait the Specials and make sure you don't Parry unless you want to finish him off, otherwise you'll lose Charges and you won't have time to build 5 again.

I’m curious, not trying to dig at you at all here, this comment seems a bit more positive about the adaptoid, almost like you don’t think it’s a Bs unbeatable too hard fight. Am I wrong? Do you still think it should be nerfed? Just curious.

I knew it would be brought up. Lol. I still think it's a bit extra. I didn't really agree with nerfing it. I think it could have done without something. Too much going on at once. So, I still feel the same way, but there are ways around the Fight and I'm just trying to be helpful.

Fair enough. I’m not gonna start the debate again, hope all the advice from everyone helped you in the end.

I got the advice bit. I just think it was overboard. I still do. That doesn't mean I'm not stubborn enough to find a way past it. Actually, you're the one that gave me the suggestion to try, so thank you.

doctorb

I think part of the problem is that people seem to expect to be able to do 100% of whatever level every month. Some people r good enough to do 100% every month, some r not. That's just the way it is, accept it.

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Marri

The only thing that killed me was lags...

Blade, MS, even Guillotine (all 4-40 4* and yes I am uncollected) oneshot him for me. I almost finished him with GR too, just place the right judgment at the appropriate time. I don't have Ronan duped and I really didn't want to awaken him when I had other options.

Patchie93

Honestly idk how you can slip up in this fight with Ronan.
Parry 5 hit combo, intercept 5 hit combo sp1 fight is won
Parry 5 hit combo, Parry 5 hit combo sp1 fight is won
Just dont get hit before your sp1 and this is an easy win. I see literally no way to lose with Ronan unless you let him hit you

DNA3000

Patchie93 wrote: »

Honestly idk how you can slip up in this fight with Ronan.

I think some people don't realize Ronan's stun duration is affected by sig level. At high sig level his stun is so long you have plenty of time to restack it. But at low sig level he could come out of the stun before you can restack it, and then if he moves backwards or blocks you then you'll lose the perma-stun.

rockykoston

I think Adaptoid is not a good boss design. If not for Ronan, we'd be seeing a whole lot more outcry here.

Yes, I've completed uncollected difficulty and this is the first time I've done so since I became uncollected 2 months ago, but TBH, Adaptoid is by far the most difficult boss.

NeoDazaras

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