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Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Carnage Updated Beta Info
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Base Stats & Abilities *Stats based on 4 Star, Rank 5, Level 50, Signature Level 99
Health: 13379 -> 14140 Attack: 979 -> 1021 Max PI: Without Signature: 3688 -> 3706 With Signature (99): 4855 -> 4843
*Stats based on 5 Star, Rank 5, Level 65, Signature Level 200
Health: 26826 -> 28350 Attack: 1963 -> 2048 Max PI: Without Signature: 7418 -> 7452 With Signature (99): 10220
Basic Abilities: Resist Physical, Precision, Fury, Cruelty, Bleed
Passive ● The Carnage Symbiote changes form creating weapons and armor providing Passive bonuses based on Carnage’s current needs. ● Struck: +998.5 -> +1333.33 Physical Resistance ● Block: +998.5 -> +1333.33 Block Proficiency ● Light Attack: +998.5 -> +1333.33 Critical Rate ● Medium Attack: +391.6 -> +459.45 Attack ● Heavy Attack: +1508.77 -> +1636.36 Critical Damage Rate
Developer Note: Same Buffs, but bigger numbers!
Special Attacks ● Each time Carnage activates a Special Attack he begins to Mutate for 10 seconds. ● Once his mutation ends, he copies his current Symbiotic Creation as a Permanent Buff. ● He can have a Maximum of 5 Permanent Buffs.
Developer Note: No changes here, move along … move along
Critical Hits ● If the target is already Bleeding or Armor Broken, gain a 80% -> %100 Chance to Bleed dealing 44.06 -> 56.16 damage over 0.5 seconds.
Developer Note: Now a 100% chance, the point is to get the crits while the Bleed/Armor Breaks are active, and it didn’t feel rewarding to do that, and hit that unlucky 20%.
Heavy Attacks ● 100% Chance to Bleed dealing 538.45 -> 995.48 damage over 10 -> 15 seconds.
Developer Note: Increased Duration, to help keep Carange’s Power Gain train rolling, and increased Damage to make the less susceptible to Willpower.
New Ability Ravager - Passive ● If one of his Bleeds fails to apply due to an Immunity he has a 100% chance to Armor Break his opponent instead, reducing their Armor by 666.67 last for 10 seconds. The Armor Break doesn’t stack. ● Carnage rips and tears at his opponents, each time he triggers a Bleed Debuff on his Opponent he has a 20% chance to Refresh the Duration of all the other Bleed Debuffs on his Opponent.
Developer Note: Couple of changes here, the Armor Breaks replacing Bleeds when the opponent is immune makes Carnage better at overcoming the Bleed Immunity of Robots who he should have the Cosmic over Tech advantage against. The Bleed refresh shifts more of Carnage’s Damage potential into his Bleeds, and makes him work even better with Deep Wounds (more time to land that Bleed Refresh), It also allow him to keep his Power Gain flowing without needing to thread in Heavy Attacks or Special 3’s nearly as often.
New Ability Ravager - Passive ● Carnage gains 50% additional Power from Striking his Opponent. This is reduced by 25% per Mutation Buff he has.
Developer Note: A big injection of Power at the beginning of the fight, as long as Carnage stays on offense. This is targeted at allowing Carnage to get his first 4 Mutation Buffs locked in much faster, and making it much less punishing if you have to build up to SP3 to get a bleed in place. Note: the bonus reduces by 25% per Mutation Buff, meaning at 2 Buffs the bonus is 25% and is entirely gone at 4 Buffs.
Special 1: Frenzied Assault - Carnage hurls himself at his opponent, rending with limbs and tentacles alike. ● This attack receives +998.5 -> 1076.92 additional Critical Rate.
Developer Note: Same as before, but slightly more Critical Rating. The combination of many hits, and the Critical Rating bonus makes this attack the way to try and refresh Bleeds.
Special 2: Rabid Onslaught - Carnage uses his tentacles to suddenly propel himself towards his target while he strikes with his claws. ● This attack receives +1529.33 -> 1571.43 Critical Damage Rating.
Developer Note: Again same as before with a juuuust a bit more Critical Damage Rating, this is the go to Special Attack for DPS once Carnage has all of his Buffs built up, especially with a Critical Rating Buff or 2, and some Furies locked in to make the most use of the bonus Critical Damage Rating.
Special 3: Aberrant Soul - Carnage uses his tentacles to pin his opponent in place, allowing him take the time to revel in the carnage he creates. ● 100% chance to cause the Opponent to Bleed, dealing 3671.25 -> 5819.7 direct damage over 20 -> 30 seconds.
Developer Note: Increase to Damage and Duration, of the Bleed, makes this the way for Carnage to get a Bleed in place if you can’t easily land a Heavy Attack (eg Stun Immune Fights). The duration is also long enough that it tends to be relatively easy to keep refreshing it for most of, if not an entire, fight.
Signature Ability: Bloodlust ● The sight and smell of blood triggers Carnage’s bloodlust, granting a Power Gain Buff when activating a Bleed or Armor Break on the opponent that lasts as long as the Opponent is Bleed or Armor Broken. The Power Gain grants up to 1.08% of a Bar of Power per second based on how close Carnage is to the Bleed or Armor Broken opponent.
Synergy Bonuses 1. Venom - Shared Genetic Memory - (Venom and Carnage gain +1 to their maximum number of Genetic Memory or Hyper Mutation Buffs) 2. Deadpool or Deadpool (X-Force) - Enemies - (All Champions gain +155 Critical Rating) 3. Spider-Man - Nemesis - (All Champions gain +6% Attack) 4. Spider-Man (Symbiote) or Agent Venom or Venompool - Family - (All Champions gain +6% to Health)
Developer Note: These are unchanged
Health: 13379 -> 14140 Attack: 979 -> 1021 Max PI: Without Signature: 3688 -> 3706 With Signature (99): 4855 -> 4843
*Stats based on 5 Star, Rank 5, Level 65, Signature Level 200
Health: 26826 -> 28350 Attack: 1963 -> 2048 Max PI: Without Signature: 7418 -> 7452 With Signature (99): 10220
Basic Abilities: Resist Physical, Precision, Fury, Cruelty, Bleed
Passive ● The Carnage Symbiote changes form creating weapons and armor providing Passive bonuses based on Carnage’s current needs. ● Struck: +998.5 -> +1333.33 Physical Resistance ● Block: +998.5 -> +1333.33 Block Proficiency ● Light Attack: +998.5 -> +1333.33 Critical Rate ● Medium Attack: +391.6 -> +459.45 Attack ● Heavy Attack: +1508.77 -> +1636.36 Critical Damage Rate
Developer Note: Same Buffs, but bigger numbers!
Special Attacks ● Each time Carnage activates a Special Attack he begins to Mutate for 10 seconds. ● Once his mutation ends, he copies his current Symbiotic Creation as a Permanent Buff. ● He can have a Maximum of 5 Permanent Buffs.
Developer Note: No changes here, move along … move along
Critical Hits ● If the target is already Bleeding or Armor Broken, gain a 80% -> %100 Chance to Bleed dealing 44.06 -> 56.16 damage over 0.5 seconds.
Developer Note: Now a 100% chance, the point is to get the crits while the Bleed/Armor Breaks are active, and it didn’t feel rewarding to do that, and hit that unlucky 20%.
Heavy Attacks ● 100% Chance to Bleed dealing 538.45 -> 995.48 damage over 10 -> 15 seconds.
Developer Note: Increased Duration, to help keep Carange’s Power Gain train rolling, and increased Damage to make the less susceptible to Willpower.
New Ability Ravager - Passive ● If one of his Bleeds fails to apply due to an Immunity he has a 100% chance to Armor Break his opponent instead, reducing their Armor by 666.67 last for 10 seconds. The Armor Break doesn’t stack. ● Carnage rips and tears at his opponents, each time he triggers a Bleed Debuff on his Opponent he has a 20% chance to Refresh the Duration of all the other Bleed Debuffs on his Opponent.
Developer Note: Couple of changes here, the Armor Breaks replacing Bleeds when the opponent is immune makes Carnage better at overcoming the Bleed Immunity of Robots who he should have the Cosmic over Tech advantage against. The Bleed refresh shifts more of Carnage’s Damage potential into his Bleeds, and makes him work even better with Deep Wounds (more time to land that Bleed Refresh), It also allow him to keep his Power Gain flowing without needing to thread in Heavy Attacks or Special 3’s nearly as often.
New Ability Ravager - Passive ● Carnage gains 50% additional Power from Striking his Opponent. This is reduced by 25% per Mutation Buff he has.
Developer Note: A big injection of Power at the beginning of the fight, as long as Carnage stays on offense. This is targeted at allowing Carnage to get his first 4 Mutation Buffs locked in much faster, and making it much less punishing if you have to build up to SP3 to get a bleed in place. Note: the bonus reduces by 25% per Mutation Buff, meaning at 2 Buffs the bonus is 25% and is entirely gone at 4 Buffs.
Special 1: Frenzied Assault - Carnage hurls himself at his opponent, rending with limbs and tentacles alike. ● This attack receives +998.5 -> 1076.92 additional Critical Rate.
Developer Note: Same as before, but slightly more Critical Rating. The combination of many hits, and the Critical Rating bonus makes this attack the way to try and refresh Bleeds.
Special 2: Rabid Onslaught - Carnage uses his tentacles to suddenly propel himself towards his target while he strikes with his claws. ● This attack receives +1529.33 -> 1571.43 Critical Damage Rating.
Developer Note: Again same as before with a juuuust a bit more Critical Damage Rating, this is the go to Special Attack for DPS once Carnage has all of his Buffs built up, especially with a Critical Rating Buff or 2, and some Furies locked in to make the most use of the bonus Critical Damage Rating.
Special 3: Aberrant Soul - Carnage uses his tentacles to pin his opponent in place, allowing him take the time to revel in the carnage he creates. ● 100% chance to cause the Opponent to Bleed, dealing 3671.25 -> 5819.7 direct damage over 20 -> 30 seconds.
Developer Note: Increase to Damage and Duration, of the Bleed, makes this the way for Carnage to get a Bleed in place if you can’t easily land a Heavy Attack (eg Stun Immune Fights). The duration is also long enough that it tends to be relatively easy to keep refreshing it for most of, if not an entire, fight.
Signature Ability: Bloodlust ● The sight and smell of blood triggers Carnage’s bloodlust, granting a Power Gain Buff when activating a Bleed or Armor Break on the opponent that lasts as long as the Opponent is Bleed or Armor Broken. The Power Gain grants up to 1.08% of a Bar of Power per second based on how close Carnage is to the Bleed or Armor Broken opponent.
Synergy Bonuses 1. Venom - Shared Genetic Memory - (Venom and Carnage gain +1 to their maximum number of Genetic Memory or Hyper Mutation Buffs) 2. Deadpool or Deadpool (X-Force) - Enemies - (All Champions gain +155 Critical Rating) 3. Spider-Man - Nemesis - (All Champions gain +6% Attack) 4. Spider-Man (Symbiote) or Agent Venom or Venompool - Family - (All Champions gain +6% to Health)
Developer Note: These are unchanged
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Comments
Slight buff to stats.
Slight increase to bleed times.
Zero utility/regen added though.
I do like the bleed > armour break vs bleed immunes.
Needs a passive evasion counter like venoms getting. And maybe more.
(I haven’t tested him- I am not in beta)
And I totally agree with you dude venom was much better than carnage and now (with those new buffs) will be leagues better than him. I mean these buffs are worse than sentry.
After more than a year for his buff they give carnage same treatment as sentry
Wow just wow
Assuming these numbers are correct, and assuming you have permission to repost beta numbers, I'm hoping there's at least one person in the beta that is actually aware of how DR works and can use a calculator. In real world terms, someone on the dev team decided to buff the special 1 attack critical rate by about one percentage point on average, factoring in base critical rate and the likelihood of having other critical stat buffs periodically. If you're trying to buff a significantly underperforming champion, that's seems completely pointless to me.
Do other champions have a greater increased crit rate through specials or synergies?
Btw those changes ability wise are pretty irrelevant
Nice rework on Venom tough
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Sounds Good
Yeah that’s why I’m still holding out rankups and awakenings, cause beta means changes can still happen. (Pls Kabam don’t rush anything, especially with Carnage. He’s one of the most popular champs in the game abilities aisde, so it’s kinda meh to do a slight number boost. I’m not 100% sure how much the boost will do so I’m waiting on some gameplay from the content creators.
Oh something you could add to carnage to help him out a little bit is to give him a rogue like ability against debuffs
Since the Symbiote has healing abilities and has saved an impaled Peter Parker in the comics, maybe Carnage has a shortened duration on DoT debuffs inflicted on him.
Maybe add some dr voodoo like regen or make him carry the last two applied buffs to the next fight
Sound right?
You just changed my mind about Carnage the Hype is real