Energy requirement for side quests are ridiculous

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  • KoperBoyKoperBoy Posts: 198
    Tayyab82 said:

    Lormif said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Energy requirements for this EQ daily side quests are ridiculous and needs to be relooked.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to play EQs and Side Quests together unless you buy Energy refill or has purchased Sigil.

    I have had no issues running both and using no energy refills I am halfway done with the UC and have done every single day of side quests for epic and master.
    Yes very much doable for the people who play 24/7 and have zero life beyond virtual world. For someone who have a job, sleeps 6-8 hrs like a normal person, have real life and plays game as game, maybe logging in 3-4 times a day, this EQ energy requirement is very difficult.

    So why the second person is complaining, because this kind of insane energy requirement is getting introduced for first time. And now it will make it increasingly difficult to keep pace with others unless he opens his pocket or play as like no world beyond MCOC.

    If we look at maths, one generally gets around 3 to 3.5 times full energy during a day of which a lil less thn approx 2.5 full energy one has to use if they are doing 100pc daily side quests.
    (1 times here meant 1 full energy i.e. 70 if lvl 60)


    So you want to get the same rewards as someone who plays more than you?
  • DonnymeijDonnymeij Posts: 460 ★★
    NCB_pt said:

    Monk1 said:

    If you do the quest everyday on epic you get 5 tickets, these can be used for day 6-7 event.

    Run it 5 times you get 10 5* stones (2 from each) that alone is well worth a bit of energy. So I’m the month that’s 40 5* stones for nothing not much

    Monk1 said:

    If you do the quest everyday on epic you get 5 tickets, these can be used for day 6-7 event.

    Run it 5 times you get 10 5* stones (2 from each) that alone is well worth a bit of energy. So I’m the month that’s 40 5* stones for nothing not much

    6* Champions are the future. Not worth time spending just for that 5* signatures abilities.

    But hey, I understand why so poor rewards: it's the NY event...
    Maybe for you. As long as I cannot upgrade my 6* champs to rank 3 I will be using my 5 star r5 champs. They might be the future, but the 6 star meta is at least half a year away, assuming act 6 completion will most likely cause the first rank 3's to pop up.
  • DonnymeijDonnymeij Posts: 460 ★★
    so 1 energy refil a day is not worth the 1200 units you can gain? Even if you were to do just a 3 lowest, you would have energy left and enough units to buy a full refill again and have gained some catalysts for upgrading. That only requires 1 walkthrough, I don`t mind that 7th day too much.
  • Nick_Caine_32Nick_Caine_32 Posts: 463 ★★★

    Lormif said:

    Daddrieda said:

    This discussion is going off track now.

    That tends to happen when people start attacking people and not arguments.
    Or when youre in the thread lol
    Yeah I think that last comment to me was over the line, nowhere did I attack in any of mine, I was talking about the average player having time to do this every day and showing their example to be a false premise. I think I was pretty logical in my comments too but personal attacks seem easier for some.

  • LormifLormif Posts: 4,975 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    Daddrieda said:

    This discussion is going off track now.

    That tends to happen when people start attacking people and not arguments.
    Or when youre in the thread lol
    yes, because as @Nick_Caine_32 did, he personally attacked me, and that tends to happen when I am in a thread, people stop with logic and start attacking me because they dont like wht I stated.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 4,975 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    Daddrieda said:

    This discussion is going off track now.

    That tends to happen when people start attacking people and not arguments.
    Or when youre in the thread lol
    Yeah I think that last comment to me was over the line, nowhere did I attack in any of mine, I was talking about the average player having time to do this every day and showing their example to be a false premise. I think I was pretty logical in my comments too but personal attacks seem easier for some.

    So you did not accuse me of being disingenuous and gas lighting?
  • RapRap Posts: 2,583 ★★★
    The rewards on the nexus event are not very good so i am gonna pass on playing it anymore. Got 5 or 6 tickets and not much reason to use them. Then there is the matter of limiting the champs. They have managed to give me choices for teams with little in the way of synergies which i must assume is purposeful given that not all champs of the representative classes is a available to take in...
  • Belfigor2Belfigor2 Posts: 93
    Tayyab82 said:

    Energy requirements for this EQ daily side quests are ridiculous and needs to be relooked.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to play EQs and Side Quests together unless you buy Energy refill or has purchased Sigil.

    was about to start post about this, doing 3 difficulties daily with 2 energy per step + doing EQ 3 difficulties + using best champs in AW and AQ.
    Does kabam expect us to spend 3h a day in a mobile phone game?

    the daily should be 0 energy cost
  • RapRap Posts: 2,583 ★★★
    The unvarnished truth of events like this are that they are meant to press us to raise the various garbage champs we have taken a pass on investing in. All the gates and tags limiting us are designed to motivate us to rank the 100s of "meh" champs already in the game and opened daily. But, just gonna throw this out there, if you want us to do that kabam! You gotta up the rewards!
  • RapRap Posts: 2,583 ★★★
    Just not gonna rank my 5* cismic ironman to access an event that gives rewards i can gain elsewhere.
  • RapRap Posts: 2,583 ★★★
    What is behind the walls being built needs to be worth the investment to break through them.
  • Dwhalen8554Dwhalen8554 Posts: 97
    The energy cost is too high. Lower it to 1 energy and that would be fair.
  • PrathapPrathap Posts: 463 ★★
    edited October 2019
    Belfigor2 said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Energy requirements for this EQ daily side quests are ridiculous and needs to be relooked.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to play EQs and Side Quests together unless you buy Energy refill or has purchased Sigil.

    was about to start post about this, doing 3 difficulties daily with 2 energy per step + doing EQ 3 difficulties + using best champs in AW and AQ.
    Does kabam expect us to spend 3h a day in a mobile phone game?

    the daily should be 0 energy cost
    Oh Kabam is forcing all of us to play now??

    People conveniently forget that Kabam is giving 40 Units, Tier 1 alpha with just bare minimum effort and on top of that for every 3 days there's one energy refill from alliance events...

    Energy cost is still high?? Then Don't play everything...

    If you don't want to miss the rewards and want to get everything that comes up., Just be ready to spend couple of units not on complaining..
  • dot_dittodot_ditto Posts: 744 ★★★
    Lormif said:


    This is not a causal game, you cannot play casually and expect to get all the tasks done.

    I agree .. I've played casually the last couple years, and what made it doable is completely ignoring the Arenas .. :)

    That takes such a HUGE load off ... now I can just enjoy and focus on whatever EQ and such I want ..

    It does take some self time management to say "Nope, that's not worth doing *for me*" ... and moving on .. :)
  • Tayyab82Tayyab82 Posts: 364 ★★
    KoperBoy said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Lormif said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Energy requirements for this EQ daily side quests are ridiculous and needs to be relooked.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to play EQs and Side Quests together unless you buy Energy refill or has purchased Sigil.

    I have had no issues running both and using no energy refills I am halfway done with the UC and have done every single day of side quests for epic and master.
    Yes very much doable for the people who play 24/7 and have zero life beyond virtual world. For someone who have a job, sleeps 6-8 hrs like a normal person, have real life and plays game as game, maybe logging in 3-4 times a day, this EQ energy requirement is very difficult.

    So why the second person is complaining, because this kind of insane energy requirement is getting introduced for first time. And now it will make it increasingly difficult to keep pace with others unless he opens his pocket or play as like no world beyond MCOC.

    If we look at maths, one generally gets around 3 to 3.5 times full energy during a day of which a lil less thn approx 2.5 full energy one has to use if they are doing 100pc daily side quests.
    (1 times here meant 1 full energy i.e. 70 if lvl 60)


    So you want to get the same rewards as someone who plays more than you?
    That's another level of stupidity. Is this post about rewards or energy. Use brain please???
  • Tayyab82Tayyab82 Posts: 364 ★★
    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Lormif said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Energy requirements for this EQ daily side quests are ridiculous and needs to be relooked.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to play EQs and Side Quests together unless you buy Energy refill or has purchased Sigil.

    I have had no issues running both and using no energy refills I am halfway done with the UC and have done every single day of side quests for epic and master.
    Yes very much doable for the people who play 24/7 and have zero life beyond virtual world. For someone who have a job, sleeps 6-8 hrs like a normal person, have real life and plays game as game, maybe logging in 3-4 times a day, this EQ energy requirement is very difficult.

    So why the second person is complaining, because this kind of insane energy requirement is getting introduced for first time. And now it will make it increasingly difficult to keep pace with others unless he opens his pocket or play as like no world beyond MCOC.

    If we look at maths, one generally gets around 3 to 3.5 times full energy during a day of which a lil less thn approx 2.5 full energy one has to use if they are doing 100pc daily side quests.
    (1 times here meant 1 full energy i.e. 70 if lvl 60)


    I have an 8 to 10 hour job, sleep 8 hours a night, exercise for an hour, and have a life. I play it as a game, other than checking on things every now and again for war I have 3 times I do energy related tasks, when I wake up, when I eat lunch and right before bed. I use 1 bar of energy to do both levels of the daily side quest and the other 2-3 bars (counting helps requests) to clear the monthly EQ.


    This is not a causal game, you cannot play casually and expect to get all the tasks done.
    Lol come on man, don’t quote your job like it’s something preventing you from playing. You post on the forums all day long, if you have time to do that then you’re clearly able to play the game at your work as well. Most people don’t have that luxury let alone to post to a forum about the game all day every day. I’m lucky myself, but I’m not being disingenuous and saying others should be able to do the same to justify this bad event. The energy requirements are high this month, there’s no need to gaslight.

    I mentioned my job because the OP did, that being said, just because I am able to post on the forums all day does not somehow mean I can play all day. Those 2 things are not the same. Bad is relative, and there is no gaslighting going on here.
    @Lormif it wasn't a direct attack on you, do check my comment again. My response was a generic view on who all can complete this EQ and who can't. And believe me, I will put myself too in first category as I have hardly missed completing any event for the past year or so, that includes doing atleast minimum in all the arenas till now.

    However, if this EQ side quests energy requirement is making it difficult for someone who is not wasting and using all possible energy of atleast 15 - 16hrs daily, how difficult it will be for others (mid level or below players). It will be helpful if the community can come together for a change and agree to a point instead of arguing and try proving each other wrong. Just give it a thought..

    To the few who has written here about using units from side quest to buy energy, that's one of the worst way to defend a ridiculous energy demand for already a very weak quest which doesn't have much to offer...(FYI I have already stopped doing side quest as it's not worth the effort).
  • CodornasCodornas Posts: 542 ★★
    Tayyab82 said:

    Energy requirements for this EQ daily side quests are ridiculous and needs to be relooked.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to play EQs and Side Quests together unless you buy Energy refill or has purchased Sigil.

    Man, i havent logged into this forum for over a year.
    I came back just for this, cause this is outragious.
    Im glad someone already pointed this out.
    Although it seems Kabam has ignored this, like always.
    its fkn BS man, last month event was already awfuly long energywise, this month they made the same mistake with these dayly side quests
  • GagoHGagoH Posts: 187
    edited October 2019
    NCB_pt said:

    Monk1 said:

    If you do the quest everyday on epic you get 5 tickets, these can be used for day 6-7 event.

    Run it 5 times you get 10 5* stones (2 from each) that alone is well worth a bit of energy. So I’m the month that’s 40 5* stones for nothing not much

    Monk1 said:

    If you do the quest everyday on epic you get 5 tickets, these can be used for day 6-7 event.

    Run it 5 times you get 10 5* stones (2 from each) that alone is well worth a bit of energy. So I’m the month that’s 40 5* stones for nothing not much

    6* Champions are the future. Not worth time spending just for that 5* signatures abilities.

    But hey, I understand why so poor rewards: it's the NY event...
    Not all summoners are end game, how can they obtain 6* without a strong 5* roster first?
  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Posts: 878 ★★★

  • PrathapPrathap Posts: 463 ★★
    DarthPhal said:


    Nailed it.. :)
  • LormifLormif Posts: 4,975 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Codornas said:

    last month event was already awfuly long energywise, this month they made the same mistake with these dayly side quests

    Actually, last month's monthly quest cost about 200 energy more per difficulty tier total, meanwhile now that we know the bonus maps cost zero energy the actual energy cost of the event is not high at all. Five runs per day (one run per difficulty, plus one exploration run) times five days is 450 energy per week. You get 200 units per week doing one run per difficulty. 450 energy per week is 6.4 energy refills. 200 units per week is 6.7 energy refills. The event actually pays for its own energy.

    In fact, while everyone just glanced at the event and immediately jumped to the conclusion it was costing us more energy, this month costs less energy than last month, and if you use the units to buy energy it actually costs us less energy than an average month with no special event at all - because the monthly costs significantly less this month than it has on average this year.
    And lets not forget the rewards are probably the best ever. about 1.5 T2a, and a third of a t5bc
  • MMCskippyMMCskippy Posts: 325 ★★
    I was salty about the energy required until I ran the actual "ticket required" quests.

    Then in the Normal/Master quests I was forming t2b and t3b cats (I'm always in short supply on these and they cost energy to farm)... and on the Epic/Master quests I formed a t4b. So in addition to the basic cats, you get sig stones and you get at least a t1a per day earning tickets.

    Looking at this as an alternate to running the basic cat quests, it's not crazy energy. Does it take away from completing the monthly maps? Heck yes... but this is the resource balancing portion of the game that requires you to use time/effort management to not have be anchored to the game.
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