Let's have a real talk about "Buffed" champs
Neonoctis
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Looking back through all the champions that have been buffed in MCOC who do you think actually got a buff that was WORTH getting??
Nobody uses Juggernaut or Spidergwen for anything other than war defense.
She Hulk got a buff and then a passive nerf right afterwards.
Venom and Carnage were both enhanced making them both great damage dealers but Venom was clearly favored and turned into an awesome Spiderman counter.
Luke Cage is arguably the most well buffed champion we have seen in game so far, great for questing and some AQ and AW fights also. Good utility, and awesome damage output.
What are your thoughts and where do you think Old Man Logan and Colossus will fall in this list? (If we ever actually get their buffs)
Nobody uses Juggernaut or Spidergwen for anything other than war defense.
She Hulk got a buff and then a passive nerf right afterwards.
Venom and Carnage were both enhanced making them both great damage dealers but Venom was clearly favored and turned into an awesome Spiderman counter.
Luke Cage is arguably the most well buffed champion we have seen in game so far, great for questing and some AQ and AW fights also. Good utility, and awesome damage output.
What are your thoughts and where do you think Old Man Logan and Colossus will fall in this list? (If we ever actually get their buffs)
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Colossus and OML will be mid-point among buffed champs. More like Carnage than Venom.
Dr. Zola
SpiderGwen has massive offensive power with enervate and Slow debuffs.
Here's how you kill Medusa with 3* Venom if you aren't super-skilled:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjbfOQNHLzI
Rule 1: two furies = bad, only use SP1 if you can
Rule 2: three furies = very bad, only hit once then back away
Rule 3: two bars of power = swirly swirly bad, don't stand next to her
Rule 4: <18% health = no more bad, eat face
Anyone who graduated from Dorky Diggity Dave's school of cool with a C+ or better should be able to do this with a couple minutes practice.
Given this game is built on the development of new champions, not old ones, expecting buffs to rocket champs from meme-tier to god-tier is unreasonable. Also, some buffs may be defensive, others offensive, still others utilitarian.
Some of the champs whose buffs made them genuinely useful, in an approximate order of how useful they've become:
- Magik
- Luke Cage
- Venom
- She-Hulk
- Red Hulk
- Carnage
- Spider-Gwen
- Gamora
Smaller buffs that made champions at least a bit better; although not great:- Winter Soldier (remember his original Sig, 'Torment'? And before he had his ammo stockpile? That's without even mentioning his Killmonger synergy)
- Punisher (not great, but can do fairly good DoT once you create an open wound. Certainly better than most of the other 'trophy' champs)
- Juggernaut (he's had several mini-buffs; rather than one proper rework)
- Black Bolt* (he's been given armour breaks, lost his SP2 recoil, and been given a good team synergy, rather than one proper rework)
*Before you say he's never useful, bear in mind that he's a Poison-immune champ who can proc permanent Fury effects...I'm hoping that the up-coming Colossus/OML buffs will fall in the 'genuinely useful' category. I don't think either champ will become the new Domino/Archangel/Omega Red; but both should become useable in content if you don't have those top-tier champions.
P. S.
I made all variant 2 with venom and rhulk, and i use constantly cage in aq 6. I would rank up these champs even without rank up gems
She’s my only R4 5* so far and she shreds multiple enemies for me. Idk why you think that no one uses her out of AW defense ._.
Apparently, because a buffed champion isn't beyond god tier, people evaluate it as bad.
We as a player base get conditioned to these ridiculous powerful champions so we can't appreciate a well-rounded champion. I call this phenomenon the Blade syndrome as he is the source of it. It is mass psychosis.
Also, duh, Mephisto. Although you want to make sure you don't trigger your own aura when you go Mephisto vs Mephisto.
Really the mephisto boss has a ton of counters, you just need to be willing to try.
Venom and she-hulk have been the pick of the bunch.