Sentinal 6.1.2 bio hazard? 20% chance? What?

Maybe a moderator can help. I have the pacify mastery and blade and gr and starky and still catch a bleed while sentinal is stunned just about every other combo. It's only a 20% chance to begin with. Considering that without all that ability accuracy reduction I catch 3 bleeds per combo I guess it makes sense but come on. Nothing on my side with even higher percentage pops off like that. Please explain the math on this and explain why it doesn't work in reverse
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  • It's rng. It had a decent chance to happen, so it did.
    Same fight can go every hit getting a bleed, or tons of hits and not a single bleed
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    Rng?
  • HSenpaiHSenpai Posts: 91
    Use corvus and don’t hit blocks
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    How u figure a decent chance to happen? Start with a 20% chance. Turn reduce it by 40% then again by 40% then again by 10%. That's decent? I should have sooooo many more 5 and 6 stars if that's decent
  • LormifLormif Posts: 6,487 ★★★★★
    "it does not work in reverse" because you are generally not getting hit that often, if you were it would trigger more often, I just had an issue where 2x my 15% digi cloak triggered today in a row doing arenas.
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    I need real answers here. Corvus ain't that answer. I don't need to know who is bleed immune. I need to know how the kabam percentages work
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    Besides that an r4 corvus won't make a dent before he runs out of charges
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    I mean in crystals and drops and offensive procs as well.
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    I guess I would like to know what that 20% is reduced to?
  • LormifLormif Posts: 6,487 ★★★★★

    I guess I would like to know what that 20% is reduced to?

    may seem like a stupid question but were you using blade? do you have a video?
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    Case in point. Opened 3 uncollected arena crystals. All gold. Had 15% chance for units of hi h is far greater than the chance to catch a bleed from the bio hazard after all the reduction. I get bled in 3 hits but can't get units in 3 crystals
  • LormifLormif Posts: 6,487 ★★★★★

    Case in point. Opened 3 uncollected arena crystals. All gold. Had 15% chance for units of hi h is far greater than the chance to catch a bleed from the bio hazard after all the reduction. I get bled in 3 hits but can't get units in 3 crystals

    you need a lot more tests then that to even itself out. The rule is you need 1k random events following a standard distribution.
  • ArylAryl Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    4.92% while stunned
    8.4% while not stunned
  • GluteusMaximusGluteusMaximus Posts: 1,360 ★★★

    How u figure a decent chance to happen? Start with a 20% chance. Turn reduce it by 40% then again by 40% then again by 10%. That's decent? I should have sooooo many more 5 and 6 stars if that's decent

    what's that other 40%? you mean sparky's 45% potency kicker which would convert the 40% aar to 58%? plus 10%? that's 68% chance per attack during a stun to prevent something that has a 20% chance of occurring, 58% when not stunned. conceptually you could come to a similar outcome using, say, duped BW instead of the trinity, and not be able to differentiate why something triggered and something didn't. in either case, it's not 100%.
  • ArylAryl Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    40% + ^45% = 58%
    58% + ^30% = 75.4%

    20% - ^58% = 8.4%
    20% - ^75.4% = 4.92%
  • ArylAryl Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    Aryl said:

    40% + ^45% = 58%
    58% + ^30% = 75.4%

    20% - ^58% = 8.4%
    20% - ^75.4% = 4.92%

    Ok, disagree with math. It's fine. Smh.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 6,487 ★★★★★
    Aryl said:

    Aryl said:

    40% + ^45% = 58%
    58% + ^30% = 75.4%

    20% - ^58% = 8.4%
    20% - ^75.4% = 4.92%

    Ok, disagree with math. It's fine. Smh.
    treat them the same, just disagree with everything they say too lol.
  • ArylAryl Posts: 1,302 ★★★★

    Aryl said:

    Aryl said:

    40% + ^45% = 58%
    58% + ^30% = 75.4%

    20% - ^58% = 8.4%
    20% - ^75.4% = 4.92%

    Ok, disagree with math. It's fine. Smh.
    I didn't vote for that formula.

  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    Ok so it's only a 4.9% chance?
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    95% reduction from a 20% chance leaves almost 5% chance. So a 95% chance really only reduces by 15%....I'm soo confused
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    Yes I was using blade and the trilogy and yes I have vids
  • BazahaildancnBazahaildancn Posts: 154
    Hey math dude. How does 40 plus 45 equal less than 60?
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 4,379 ★★★★★
    edited November 2019
    Edit: nevermind just read the whole thread now
  • Dr_PhysicoDr_Physico Posts: 57

    Hey math dude. How does 40 plus 45 equal less than 60?

    because basic math. 45% is the rate, 40 (which unfortunately has % as a unit too, that's what makes this so confusing) is the base value. you're then calculating the amount/part/whatever you call it (english is not my first language). you could also write it as "40 + (45% of 40)", if that makes more sense to you.
    45% of 40 are 18, so 40% + 18% gets you 58% in total. (i'm sure this calculation is shown in soooo many other threads, so sorry to everyone who already knew it.)
  • ArylAryl Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    edited November 2019

    Hey math dude. How does 40 plus 45 equal less than 60?

    Are you serious?

    Edit: trying to not get warned
  • ArylAryl Posts: 1,302 ★★★★

    95% reduction from a 20% chance leaves almost 5% chance. So a 95% chance really only reduces by 15%....I'm soo confused

    Because it's 45% of 40%... you don't add up percentages.
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