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LmaoLmao Member Posts: 859 ★★★
I'm just curious as to why everyone thinks he's so great. Even with his sig ability, his damage output is not as good as most champions. I get he has a lot of debuffs utility but I don't think that qualifies him as to a beyond god tier. Am I missing something?

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  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    You my friend are wicked smart.
  • OkaythenOkaythen Member Posts: 590 ★★★
    I believe with maxed out parry
    He can perform 0 damage parries
    This by itself is a very useful thing since things like act 6 and variant opponents have ridiculous attack and the chip damage is felt over the long run
    Each kinetic charge makes his passive fury more potent so it goes up
    Once you get him maxed out he can perform even better than void in some circumstances
    But his sig scales soooo bad like it’s painful how bad it scales at a 5* level
    Plus he gets a lot utility out of it
    Debuff immune with skill class
    Constant armor break for even more damage
  • -sixate--sixate- Member Posts: 1,532 ★★★★★
    Bruh, with 5 kinetic charges and 4 stacks of weakness and armor breaks I've had sp2's crit for 130k. 110k sp2's are quite common. He deals a ton of damage when you use him correctly.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,821 Guardian

    More due to his utility and block proficiency.

    His most common play style, which is parry + heavy till you get to a special 2, is useful in many scenarios where you don't want to hit the opponent too much, for example. Or against opponents where you would be punished for doing regular combos.

    But if you want to pair his Heavy for doing bonus damage to subsequent hits, doesn’t his Heavy have a cool-down period before the next time it would enable the bonus damage ?

    If you’re not under a Power conscious fight, I’ve been saving up the Heavy until I’m in SP2 range. Then you can execute a Parry then throw your Heavy and then immediately followed by SP2. And by immediate I mean you actually interrupt his Heavy (normally multi-hit) so that the SP2 follows right after just the first hit of his Heavy. And because of the Parry beforehand, opponent should still be stunned thus allowing the SP2 to be done without worry of opponent recovering into a block too fast.

    That Heavy-SP2, especially if you’ve built up his Stack Count, does some serious wicked damage.
  • SuperiorSymbioteSuperiorSymbiote Member Posts: 1,862 ★★★★★
    Utility, the numbers you see with his passive fury and an sp2, He’s overall fun to use
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  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,821 Guardian
    Thx. Yes, was the Passive Fury from his Heavy (so long as Kinetically charged) I was thinking had some type of cool down or limitation (not just the 5 seconds that the fury lasts).

    Good to know you can do his Heavy as often as you want (just need Kinetic Potential charges to benefit from it).

    Must have confused that with another champ's Heavy.
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  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    JtheGoat said:

    ARE YOU SERIOUS? Someone doubting the power of the captain. He is arguably the best science champion in the game. You gotta know how to play him to get the damage cause he can hit hard. His block proficiency is also a life saver. He has petrify and debuffs to reduce healing and then reverse it. He can also counter unstoppable champs. Don't disrespect beardo like that ever again.

    *Second best. Don't go forgetting my girl Quake.
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  • Timone147Timone147 Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★
    Damage-check(your doing something wrong if you can’t get solid damage with him)
    Utility- Check(petrify/shrug off all debuff/armor break/nullify unstoppable)
    Survivability- Check(solid health, Perfect block, glancing)

    That’s enough you get the point. He handles so much content and has a large range of what he can do.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,558 ★★★★★
    Cap IW is the second best science champ behind Quake.

    You are clearly misinformed, not only does he have massive damage on heavies /SP2 but he has god tier utility and block proficiency.

    Pulled him today


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  • RoofusRoofus Member Posts: 36

    You my friend are wicked smart.

    Lmao
  • TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,681 ★★★★★
    Also his sp1 reduces opponents ability accuracy by 100%, very good against magik.
  • DevilMayCryDevilMayCry Member Posts: 77
    Lmao said:

    I'm just curious as to why everyone thinks he's so great. Even with his sig ability, his damage output is not as good as most champions. I get he has a lot of debuffs utility but I don't think that qualifies him as to a beyond god tier. Am I missing something?

    Probably you are missing a ranked up cap iw from your team.

    A max 4 star cap iw throws 40-50k sp2, 5 R4 60-65k sp2 and max 5 star 90k sp2 with common mastery set up. If that does not qualify for good damage not sure what does.
  • KeepinItRealKeepinItReal Member Posts: 229
    edited April 2020
    IWCap is awesome, especially versatile when awakened & tailored synergy teams
    Curious, allies keep saying IWCap has perfect/0 damage parries,..but does anyone know where in his description or what #s are being factored in/added to verify that? (3/3 Parry, 4/4 Perf.Block, etc) Can't find anywhere clear in his Spotlight/Auntm.ai Description. @Etjama @Okaythen @will-o-wisp @Timone147 @UmbertoDelRio & any others. Thx
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,030 ★★★★★
    He doesn't have perfect/0 damage with parries.
    He just has high block proficiency, and when combined with other factors he can get parry attacks and take 0 damage from it, in multiple occasions
  • OkaythenOkaythen Member Posts: 590 ★★★

    IWCap is awesome, especially versatile when awakened & tailored synergy teams
    Curious, allies keep saying IWCap has perfect/0 damage parries,..but does anyone know where in his description or what #s are being factored in/added to verify that? (3/3 Parry, 4/4 Perf.Block, etc) Can't find anywhere clear in his Spotlight/Auntm.ai Description. @Etjama @Okaythen @will-o-wisp @Timone147 @UmbertoDelRio & any others. Thx

    Perfect block is completely different to block proficiency
    You can have 0% block proficiency and 50% to perfect block and you will take a lot of damage when you don’t hit 0 on your block
    Inversely if you have 100% block proficiency and 0 perfect block chance you can still manage to get 0% damage on blocked hits
    He’s natural block proficiency is 76%
    So his blocks reduce damage by 76%
    So you need parry at maxed to get 0 damage since it reduces damage by an additional 25%
    But he won’t get the maxed stun duration from parry
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