Who is better Dr. Doom or Claire Voightan?

True cause I also haven't seen Doom solo any fight besides cull and bishop.Which basically most of the champions can do

I've not even done the Abyss nor am I arguing how hard the fights are I haven't touched it you are the one arguing with everyone and I am telling you to prove it. You want video of Doom in abyss there is plenty out there on YouTube. You are patronizing everyone in here without backing your claims.

I haven't seen any video of Doom solo abyss Besides bishop and cull.In every video Doom used alot of revives and I mean alot of revives.Now since you haven't even done ABYSS.You don't know how to use CLAIRE them why are you even here.If you don't know anything about any champion.

Oh I'm sorry when did the Abyss become the equivalent of knowing how to use champions do we not fight in other content? I haven't done the Abyss doesn't mean I don't know how the champions work.

Then te me how to use Claire against Medusa and Korg

You know what I'll tell you as soon as you post a video of Claire soloing an Abyss fight.

10or_Strong

Both are extremely useful, and I would not say I really prefer one over the other except to say their uses are complementary, rather than competitive. I use both, have my 5/65 5* Doom, my 5/65 5* BWCV, and my 2/35 6* BWCV. I will take Doom up to R2 whenever I eventually get him as a 6* as well. They are two of my favorite champs in the game.

As for how to use BWCV against Medusa, do a MLLLL combo to switch to her poison phase, then use MLLLL combos. Since Medusa is poison immune, you keep getting charges and keep nullifying Medusa's furies.

For Korg, her hits are energy, so you don't take rock thorn damage. Staying in her bleed phase builds charges because Korg is bleed immune. She's a solid Korg counter, actually.

And when you post a video of Doom solo abyss fight rather than cull and bishop then I may believe you.

Yeah I know I have soloed Medusa with Claire and used 4 revives on Korg.I was asking from shadow

Why do I need to do that never said Doom could solo abyss

One mistake you made is when you are in poison phase,you only do heavies and sp3 in abyss.

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For Medusa you switch to Curse of Plague and nullify her furies as they increase in number with your rapidly increasing Clairvoyance charges as you place poison debuffs on an immune champion, you can then activate an SP2 to trigger buff immunity so you can maintain your Clairvoyance charges and let them steadily increase as you let rip a SP3 where her damage shows

Against Korg, just don't get backed into a corner and you can safely break Korg's Rock Shield as she does energy damage and just build up your charges as you place bleeds on Korg

How about you back up your claims and address my points instead of ironically saying I lack common sense

And when you show us footage of Claire solo-ing any fight then we will all believe you, oh and...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLSm-perOO4

Look, a solo that isn't Cull or Bishop, guess you've got to believe us

Even then the ability of solo-ing champions doesn't define a champions competency in the abyss alone.

Same with their competency in the abyss completely defining a champion

Newtothegame1

Both deserve rank 5!

That I won't argue with, throw in SS and yeah

See you know nothing about CLAIRE why are you using combos on Medusa.Just parry and heavy.In 5 hits CLAIRE can take 3% health And like saw on video DOOM used revive

See Doom use revives.SO get lost

If you use Claire right, Medusa shouldn't auto-block lmao

At least he has proof of Doom's competency, while all you have to back you up are insults and empty words

And tell me again what idiot in this world use CLAIRE basic attacks and SP2 in ABYSS.Claire only do parry heavy,parry heavy ,parry heavy and SP3.Snd I don't care what you think I did abyss using less revives that I am proud.You want to use revives go with doom

Should've specified on that you were talking about the Abyss counterparts

And any energy base mystic champion can Solo CMM.You don't even know how to use Claire in ABYSS the way you said basic to nullify fury and when you mention SP2.I knew you don't know how to use Claire

If this is how you use CLAIRE in ABYSS.Then I haven't seen such a player having zero skills.

No no no no you said Video that wasn't Cull or Bishop there it is

1) Suicides necessary,so those who used Doom instead of Claire and are suicides player so they have to turn off and on suicides just because of Doom,well with Claire you don't have to do that you can keep your Suicides on.

2)Claire takes advantage from the immunities of the champions,if you play aggressive you can solo a fight.Claire takes advantage with any one of 3 immunities bleed,poison or incinerate.

3)When fighting against omega red,Medusa,Hyperion, Morningstar, dormammu use this tactic.Go to poison phase and do parry and heavy ,since all those champions are immune to poison Claire will gain power with 4 heavies you will get to that sp3 and spam sp3,this one cycle will take 1 or 2% health with only 4 hits.While Doom have to cycle through almost 10 hits got take down 3%,so long story short less hits more damage than Doom.

4)Against CMM since her all attacks are energy attacks so she will be dealing 87k damage every hit.So it is an easiest fight.

5)Most of people bring torch to melt all Mystics,but not everyone have Torch so they use void only for one fight mephisto which ruins most of the run,yeah it's different if you use void for Loki , mephisto and mordo.If you don't have any Mephisto counter,Claire is a beast against mephisto.How ,with Claire go to hellfire phase and only do one hit on Mephisto just prevent schirmish charges to not fall.Hit on Mephisto block and mephisto will gain aura ,when aura is active just Parry mephisto and try keep as much as close to aura and don't use your hits.Claire will be gaining power like hell.You can more 30 sp3 under 100 hits ,if you play right you can solo this fight.

6)Claire vs bishop well Claire sp2 is energy attacks.Go to hell fire and spam heavy bishop will gain incinerates and consume it to gain prowess and he will enter to overlord phase quickly and keep his power under control and he will be melting just like CMM tactic.

7)Remember Suicides must be active.

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