Is Black Bolt and Karnak any good in the meta?

I just pulled Black Bolt as a 4*, and have karnak as a 3* and have played around with them a bit.
Are they really just synergy partners for medusa which I do have as a 4* or can they work by themselves?

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Etm34

All of the Inhumans are disappointing in the game. Medusa is the best, but even she’s been phased out

Savage

All of the Inhumans are disappointing in the game. Medusa is the best, but even she’s been phased out

Medusa and Quake aren't disappointing. They are actually pretty faithful to their previous adaptions. Kamala could be better though... damage and utility is there just needs a heal mechanic. Karnak and Black Bolt are definitely in need of reworks.

Agent_X_zzz

All of the Inhumans are disappointing in the game. Medusa is the best, but even she’s been phased out

quake bro?

Etjama

All of the Inhumans are disappointing in the game. Medusa is the best, but even she’s been phased out

You must not know that Quake's an inhuman, huh? *cough* Best champ in the game *cough*

Etm34

Quake just takes an incredible amount of skill, which I, and a ton of other players, don’t have. She’s a champ I honestly rate in a completely separate way

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ege999men

Black bolt with synergy team at high Sig can do some good amount of damage

Erza_Scarlet

All of the Inhumans are disappointing in the game. Medusa is the best, but even she’s been phased out

Phased out? How??

DrZola

Black Bolt is one of the oldest champs, and his major recent buff was the removal of damage he did to himself when activating his Sp2.

Karnak is a disappointment. I think the team wanted to do something innovative, so they made him require two different classes of catalyst to rank up. He has true strike, which at the time he was introduced was interesting, but he hasn’t had any relevant updates since.

Multiple metas have passed these champs by. Even the Royal Inhuman Family, which would require saddling Medusa with BB and Karnak, really isn’t all that helpful in game.

It’s like the Island of Misfit Toys, except in this game it’s the Island of Neglected Champs, and BB and Karnak have been residents there for a long, long time.

Dr. Zola

Mirage_Turtle

Karnak is in a class of glass cannon champs who were left in the dust with the 12.0 update that introduced diminishing returns.

Champs like Iron Fist, Rocket Raccoon, Electro, and Karnak all derived their damage mostly from being able to either remove a lot of armor and/or access an incredibly high crit rate, causing nearly every hit to be a crit. The downside to these champs is their inherent squishiness. High risk, high reward.

Once focused, Karnak was able to crit on nearly every hit pre 12.0. He was a killer counter for any champ with a lot of armor and he was one of the only champs with access to true strike, making him an evasion counter. Plus, he was suicide friendly since Liquid Courage can give him access to permanent healing when duped.

Post 12.0, diminishing returns vastly reduced the crit rate of these champs, which tanked their damage output. Now the only thing these champs are left with is their squishiness.

Southern_Kant

both of them are **** and u have a 99 percent chance to get them in every **** crystal

FRITO_Man

Welp. I guess I got shafted
I pulled a 5* Domino and 4* Doom this week so I'm not complaining

Capoolaaalla

Both trash, get rid of them asap ¯\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯

ESF

Karnak is in a class of glass cannon champs who were left in the dust with the 12.0 update that introduced diminishing returns.

Champs like Iron Fist, Rocket Raccoon, Electro, and Karnak all derived their damage mostly from being able to either remove a lot of armor and/or access an incredibly high crit rate, causing nearly every hit to be a crit. The downside to these champs is their inherent squishiness. High risk, high reward.

Once focused, Karnak was able to crit on nearly every hit pre 12.0. He was a killer counter for any champ with a lot of armor and he was one of the only champs with access to true strike, making him an evasion counter. Plus, he was suicide friendly since Liquid Courage can give him access to permanent healing when duped.

Post 12.0, diminishing returns vastly reduced the crit rate of these champs, which tanked their damage output. Now the only thing these champs are left with is their squishiness.

To this day, I don't truly understand why Diminishing Returns was a thing.

I like to think I am a smart enough person to understand things when they make sense. I am not one of those people who tries not to understand, who argues points just to be contradictory.

And still, to this day, I just don't understand why Diminishing Returns was implemented. I truly don't