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Please bring some balance in 6* pulls

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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,270 ★★★★★
    Y_T said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Honestly, I don't know why people don't spend more time just enjoying the Champs rather than chasing after someone else's list of what's good and what's not.

    Someone else list...lol

    Can I see your roster. Would like to see how many of those 28 you have ranked at R2.
    My choices are different. I have Aegon, and I'd take him for sure. I'd also take Kingpin because he has Unstoppable Heavy, and the AI doesn't always allow you to get a Heavy in for Aegis in War. The point I'm making is I don't depend on someone else's review to determine what's useful and what isn't. I base it on what I consider useful. I don't call everything that isn't a God Tier garbage. I look to how I can make the best of what I have. Besides that, I quite enjoy spending time getting to know newer Champs. There's a great deal of enjoyment that's missed when you're targeting Champs too narrowly.
    "i'd take him to rank 2" and "i took him to rank 2" are two completely different things. Kingpin is completely useless outside maybe defence and even there there are far better options. when you take your kingpin to rank 2 please come here and share a vid with how you used him anywhere in Act 6 or even the variants :lol:
    Don't speak for me or my decisions. I just said why I would consider taking him up. He's on my War Attack Team, and I don't have to worry about a Mordo on Aegis. I'm not going to be pressured into making choices based on the status quo. Thanks.
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    Moot4LifeMoot4Life Posts: 2,132 ★★★★
    we dont need balance because with balance the game would lose money and then there would be no game. it is either:
    no balance: game has money: you quit and play on
    balance: game has less money: game is on its last legs, and game not even fun anymore since everybody has good champs.
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    KennadoKennado Posts: 991 ★★★
    edited May 2020
    Aleor said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    H_I_Z said:

    The RNG factor is what you signed up for in Marvel Casino of Champions, and honestly I don't mind it

    RNG is okay to an extent, but some balance is still needed in Good or Bad heroes you getting from 6* pulls. This kind of bad pulls makes good player quit this game.
    But that wouldn't be RNG.... No matter if the "balanced" the pool, what happens if you continue to get the champs you consider bad in that "balanced" pool? Might as well as them to just put in only the champs you want or we'll never be happy.

    I've got 40 6*'s and way more of the "bad" champs. If you're contemplating quitting for bad pulls, this game isn't for you anyway. As would be the same most every game.

    Or they could just buff all those trash champs they have in basic pool
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    Moot4LifeMoot4Life Posts: 2,132 ★★★★
    _ASDF_ said:

    Moot4Life said:

    we dont need balance because with balance the game would lose money and then there would be no game. it is either:
    no balance: game has money: you quit and play on
    balance: game has less money: game is on its last legs, and game not even fun anymore since everybody has good champs.

    That statement is an absolute and makes no sense. With no balance, few would play the game. Then no more game. 🤷‍♂️ Obviously balance brings enjoyment for FTP, spenders and whales. Balance, is subjective.
    this is true.
    however, with no balance, many people that get lucky once feel grateful for it and use that 1 champion to play and have fun. when they get that 1 champion then they don't quit.
    for the people that never get that 1 champion, they can either quit or keep grinding event quest and side events for shards. most people just get lucky or make their own luck since this game is addictive.
    no balance (what we have now)>compromise of balance and no balance>balance.
    personally, in my opinion, this is what i think.
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    Etm34Etm34 Posts: 1,644 ★★★★★
    I mean today I explored 6.4 and duped Drax from my 6* crystal. Completely bummed until I opened the Cavs and got 6* Claire. I guess there’s balance after all
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    DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 21,120 ★★★★★
    Y_T said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Y_T said:

    Some statistics... let's take seatin's rank 5 list for simplicity and say that anyone in that list is desirable. In his April's edition he lists 40 champs. I believe there are currently about 170 champs in the game so the ratio of good/not good pulls is 40/170 or 4/17. This should also be the chance of getting a "good" champ every time you open a 6 star crystal. That's approximately 23.5%.

    Now the OP posted a list of 24 champs with only 1 of them in the "desirable" list. Let's say he got none. What is the chance of this happening? Well it is simply 1-23.5% (i.e. the chance of not getting a good champ that is) to the power of 24. Excel is telling me that this equals 0.16% or roughly 1 in 625.

    So given there are a lot of people playing this game and have that many champs, 1 in 625 is not that difficult to happen. If it happened to a lot of people though that would be a different story.

    That roster is bad no question about it. But this can happen based on the current rng it seems. Of course this is not fun given all the investment and if you are one of the 625 that get the short stick what do you do? In my case I am just quitting the game since I can't be bothered to depend on luck so much.



    Op has at least 8 usable champs on their 6* roster.
    If that's the case, please show how many of those you have ranked up in your roster. Would be nice to see if you really walk the talk.

    And by the way that's not my roster. Its my ally mate and it's wrong that someone who has completed so much content hasn't been able to pull a single desirable 6*, while many of less skilled (including myself) have been so lucky with 6*. Looking at the expectation of role 6* will play in future content, many who ain't that lucky would have to either spend to get those 6*s or would have to hang boot. This is not fair.
    Well I already posted my 6* roster. As you can tell when you look at my roster, I only have 1 of the 8 form what is usable on your ally mates roster. I have like 6 or 7 of 40 from my own and I took Sym Supreme and Corvus to R2.

    From your ally mates roster, I'd R2 Mysterio, Nebula, Heimdall, Angela, Red Hulk, Proxima and Sentinel. I like playing Mr Sinister but I think for R2 he needs to be duped.
    You have Rulk and Nebula from that list. Rank up mate and share with us here
    I forgot I had her. I don't have rank up resources. I also have Rhulk as a 5* ranked so I'm not going to waste resources just to play whatever game you're playing.

    You have people telling you that your alliance mates roster isn't that bad but instead of listening, you are throwing everything back in people's faces. There are far worse 6* rosters out there than that person's.

    I stand by what I originally said. I'd they want to quit because of pulls, this isn't the game for them. That roster is far more usable than many.
    you are obviously still doing act 4 100% or something mate

    i can give you some tips how to go past that venom if you like
    @Y_T I posted a screenshot with my in-game name which is the same here. You could've easily went and looked at the titles in my profile and seen that I am cavalier.

    I was doing that venom fight with a 3* SW back in the day. Also, how would someone who is doing act 4 have 40 6*'s?

    Do you normally like commenting blindly and looking a fool after?
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    TheMightyJonTheMightyJon Posts: 52
    I'm in complete agreement with this thread. I've spent on the game both on offers and units to progress. I've pushed to complete end game content (18 paths left for Act 6 exploration, one path Abyss done, all variants 100%) and of my 21 5*s 17 of them won't get used. I've T5b and T2a in overflow and I'm just ranking 5*s that I'm not that bothered about because my 6* roster which I'd like to be ranking is predominantly trash.
    I'm not in an alliance that earns 6* shards very often so outside of rewards for completing content (which I've nearly exhausted) it takes me 2-3 months to open a *6 such as yesterdays Iron Fist.
    I've played this game from the start and can honestly say that bad RNG has been taking the fun out of it for some time I think for me personally finishing Act 6 exploration will either give me a decent champ in my Nexus crystal and a T5CC I can use in which case I'll be fired up or unfortunately it seems more likely the opposite will happen and I'll just call it a day.
    When I see other players who have barely touched content and only have three 6*s and they are all god tier then somethings not right.
    I don't know how or why the algorithms favour some people but I don't honestly believe those pulls are pure luck.

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    OneMast3rOneMast3r Posts: 331 ★★
    Boo hoo? Look at all those good tier guys. Not everyone has every champ. Make due with what you have.
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    TheMightyJonTheMightyJon Posts: 52
    Mike439 said:

    I'm in complete agreement with this thread. I've spent on the game both on offers and units to progress. I've pushed to complete end game content (18 paths left for Act 6 exploration, one path Abyss done, all variants 100%) and of my 21 5*s 17 of them won't get used. I've T5b and T2a in overflow and I'm just ranking 5*s that I'm not that bothered about because my 6* roster which I'd like to be ranking is predominantly trash.
    I'm not in an alliance that earns 6* shards very often so outside of rewards for completing content (which I've nearly exhausted) it takes me 2-3 months to open a *6 such as yesterdays Iron Fist.
    I've played this game from the start and can honestly say that bad RNG has been taking the fun out of it for some time I think for me personally finishing Act 6 exploration will either give me a decent champ in my Nexus crystal and a T5CC I can use in which case I'll be fired up or unfortunately it seems more likely the opposite will happen and I'll just call it a day.
    When I see other players who have barely touched content and only have three 6*s and they are all god tier then somethings not right.
    I don't know how or why the algorithms favour some people but I don't honestly believe those pulls are pure luck.

    Kabam has said that 6* are just now starting to come into the game at a much higher rate than before. Be patient. When 5* were new it was the same thing. You have 4 amazing champs out of your 21, that’s nearly a 20% chance of pulling something good.

    Like I said before too, a 5/65 is going to be better than a 6r2 in most situations anyway when you factor in sig levels and prestige.
    I see what you are saying and I hope I see 6*s coming more easily before I call it a day, I just really don't like spending expiring resources on 5*s. I guess in hindsight I shouldn't have gone through content quickly until I'd organically pulled some more decent 6*s worth putting the resources into, maybe spending and playing the game less would have improved my pull rates too.
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    DaileyDailey Posts: 283 ★★
    The bad pulls I noticed are not as painful since I stopped spending hard earned money on this game. My pulls have all been from Seatins lowest tier....guess I’m building from the ground up.
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    TheInfintyTheInfinty Posts: 1,382 ★★★★
    I will say that mysterio is a beast of a pull
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,270 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020
    Y_T said:

    Y_T said:

    Tayyab82 said:

    Honestly, I don't know why people don't spend more time just enjoying the Champs rather than chasing after someone else's list of what's good and what's not.

    Someone else list...lol

    Can I see your roster. Would like to see how many of those 28 you have ranked at R2.
    My choices are different. I have Aegon, and I'd take him for sure. I'd also take Kingpin because he has Unstoppable Heavy, and the AI doesn't always allow you to get a Heavy in for Aegis in War. The point I'm making is I don't depend on someone else's review to determine what's useful and what isn't. I base it on what I consider useful. I don't call everything that isn't a God Tier garbage. I look to how I can make the best of what I have. Besides that, I quite enjoy spending time getting to know newer Champs. There's a great deal of enjoyment that's missed when you're targeting Champs too narrowly.
    "i'd take him to rank 2" and "i took him to rank 2" are two completely different things. Kingpin is completely useless outside maybe defence and even there there are far better options. when you take your kingpin to rank 2 please come here and share a vid with how you used him anywhere in Act 6 or even the variants :lol:
    Don't speak for me or my decisions. I just said why I would consider taking him up. He's on my War Attack Team, and I don't have to worry about a Mordo on Aegis. I'm not going to be pressured into making choices based on the status quo. Thanks.
    Dude, you don't need anyone special to counter mordo on aegis. Just lift your heavy at the same time as his stun expires :lol: Did you r2 kingpin for that? omg lol
    Did I? No. I said I'd consider it. If you want to waste time trying to time a Parry in War, be my guest. I can have Aegis down in 2 Hits with his Heavy, and start working on the Damage. Less stress. Point is, there are a number of Champs that have uses which people don't even bother with because they're not on the short list. I use who I want and I think for myself. Personally I'd be miserable if I waited for everyone else to approve of my choices.
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    Sinedd92Sinedd92 Posts: 95
    You'll never beat my 6* roaster in the matter of garbageness hehe



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    TheInfintyTheInfinty Posts: 1,382 ★★★★
    I will say that mysterio is a beast of a pull
    Sinedd92 said:

    You'll never beat my 6* roaster in the matter of garbageness hehe



    What? Namor is a amazing pull even unawakened he is still very good.Morningstar has lots of utility and is great for abyss if you don’t have doom. Sunspot is crazy for damage. Luke Cage extremely underrated great champ.Hood is quite good.Annihilus is amazing for defense.Carnage after the buff is pretty damn good. The Worst champs you own I would say is Juggernaut and Superior Iron Man.Honestly if this was my 6 star roster I’d be quite happy with it
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