This is a horrible idea, it doesn't streamline anything. 15 tickets per map 6? Why? If you're forcing tickets on us, why can't you just create a single map 6 ticket, why the complexity of needing 15 for a single map? Kabam, you make things more complicated than they really need to be. Just use the KISS principle, Keep It Simple Stupid!!!
Honestly I can't seem to fathom how you guys at kabam can seem to be so out of touch with your players. So reading through that alliance ticket thingy, the only reason I can see for introducing that is for stopping the higher tiers from buying those resources from other players / Mechs, good thing though, anything that deals with Mechs is welcomed, but that's the least of our complaints, your gonna refresh aq and keep the same bs nodes, hell add more knowing by your standards to map 6 and 7? We gonna still have to deal with those damn defense tactics and you intend to throw more in? Man Y'all better have more concrete and actually useful things to say in a month's time because I just read through that and all I could think of is how out of touch you guys are with us.
@Kabam Miike This seems like it’s going to totally screw map6 players at the expense of map 5 players. Our donations are high because we are 665. Map 5 players would have “used” way less than was donated. They’ll receive a bunch of tickets they won’t use as map5 players. Map6 players would have underpaid, spent more items, and receive no tickets because their entries were “used up.”
Or is the refund based on a prorated share of the alliance’s total cost?
Also, can you please post the balanced map6 cost so we can see how the cost of 150 tickets scales versus 75?
since this is trying to fix a map 7-only issue, how about only requiring tickets to enter map 7. keep map 6 the same with requiring treasury resources to open
This is a tragedy. Alliances will now face difficult choices.
We are running BG1: Map 6 x 5. BG2: Map 6 x 3 and Map 5 x 2. BG3: Map 6 x 1 and Map 5 x 4.
We do this to allow accounts to build. They get all the ressources like everyone else. Those who have bigger/ stronger accounts are facing stronger AQ opponents in map 6. Items are used every now and then.
Now you, Kabam, want those who already work the hardest to pay even more to be able to play the same maps even though there are no changes to rewards!
This has to be changes. The cost of just map 6 x 5 times is literally insane all considered when you fruit from the cake is shared amount others.
And why don’t you just divide the treasury in 30 equal shares? This will be 1 : 1 fair for all.
with treasury, leadership can check the balance of gold\bc\loyaly and based on that to plan what map to run. with tickets, the leadership doesn't know how many resources\tickets every player has and if to to open map7,6 or even 5! you are trying to address one small problem that some small cheaters exploit, but you create one bigger problem that punished everyone else!
This is another great point, now leaders can't actually plan ahead and if one person doesn't have the resources to join a map, you have no way of knowing until it's too late.
3 years of alliance savings totally gone, without any warning.
Years of history which only the past 5 months will count??? And of which they will do who knows what with those earned resources? Return back to sender? It should belong to the house for the leader and officers to manage!
Also, different battlegroups running different maps was a very positive change. But the WHOLE alliance shared the cost, as we shared the rewards. It was fair!
How do these compare to current map 7 weekly donations? I don’t do map 7 so honestly don’t know what their donations have been
Old versus New: Gold: 437,500 versus 366,576 BC: 58,333 versus 48,305 Loyalty: 43,750 versus 37,963
Problem is you cannot trade anymore so equally weighted everyone has to come up with each class or go with the increasing pricing for one resource (or use units).
under your new system with "reduced map costs" spit evenly
Gold - 170k BC - 20K Loyalty - 16K
Pls tell me how I sell that to my BG. this system will destroy most of the alliances that run multiple different maps why would any of the people in my BG stay in a 665 alliance if they can go to a 666 alliance pay the same cost and get better rewards?
Yet another game mode where we have zero feedback into changes before they happen. Keep telling us what’s fun and changing things without notice and see how many people keep playing.
Whoops. This effectively ended a nice setup for us. We're doing 1BG 6x5 and the rest map 5. The new costs for us map6 players are increasing tremendously. I'm curious to see how this will play out.
Honestly at this point they should just do away with any kind of entrance fee into AQ. Maps 1-5 are free anyways and maps 6 and 7 you don’t even get back what you put into it. This new system doesn’t change that. The most cost effective way still has you paying out the a$$ and only getting a fraction of that back.
Just have all maps be free all the time. Those who do maps 6 and 7..hey you’ve completed our most difficult maps with your alliance mates. Congrats! Here are some rewards for your team effort in the game. And leave it at that
3 years of alliance savings totally gone, without any warning.
Years of history which only the past 5 months will count??? And of which they will do who knows what with those earned resources? Return back to sender? It should belong to the house for the leader and officers to manage!
Also, different battlegroups running different maps was a very positive change. But the WHOLE alliance shared the cost, as we shared the rewards. It was fair!
This was our alliance in Feb, years of building the treasury down the toilet. Dumb and dumber moves by kabam. People were paying for each other and trading, helping each other. Just putting this up here to know what a bs move this is. The allocation of treasury was to be left to the ally and its leadership, to adjust as needed and to help those who couldn't do the mad grinding needed to sustain aq. The ally was understanding and helped each other all these years. You guys take absolutely no feedback and spit on our faces overnight.
Give us back all the donations, atleast split it amongst the team.
This basically confirms how little thought Kabam puts into their updates. The flaws of this system are plain as day but they went right over Kabam's heads. Get rid of this ticket system and go back to the way it was.
@Kabam Miike how are alliance leaders and officers expected to manage who has the ability to pay for aq. With the treasury you knew where you stood at the beginning of each aq series and each day. It allowed people to cover for those that had a bad week at work or personal life issues. What happens when a officer starts 3 bg map 7 and 3 people don’t have the resources to join?
From adding up the Price sheet on Seatins video the cost to run map 6 for a week, if u buy the tickets using all 3 currencies: 15 tickets per day times 5 days = 75 tickets per week 75 tickets divided by 3 currencies = 25 tickets per currency 25 tickets BC:16.643 25 tickets Gold:155.927 25 tickets Loyalty: 14.472 or 225 units per week That's more than what i used to donate before..... in a matter of resources this update is worse if that price sheet is correct.
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Or is the refund based on a prorated share of the alliance’s total cost?
Also, can you please post the balanced map6 cost so we can see how the cost of 150 tickets scales versus 75?
We are running
BG1: Map 6 x 5.
BG2: Map 6 x 3 and Map 5 x 2.
BG3: Map 6 x 1 and Map 5 x 4.
We do this to allow accounts to build. They get all the ressources like everyone else. Those who have bigger/ stronger accounts are facing stronger AQ opponents in map 6. Items are used every now and then.
Now you, Kabam, want those who already work the hardest to pay even more to be able to play the same maps even though there are no changes to rewards!
This has to be changes. The cost of just map 6 x 5 times is literally insane all considered when you fruit from the cake is shared amount others.
And why don’t you just divide the treasury in 30 equal shares? This will be 1 : 1 fair for all.
What is the purpose in paying for AQ anyways? Time and items used should really be enough.
Summoners : please reduce the energy timers of AQ.
Kabam : we heard you all and we will remove the treasury from AQ 😑😑😑
What a punch to the gut to see this...
3 years of alliance savings totally gone, without any warning.
Years of history which only the past 5 months will count??? And of which they will do who knows what with those earned resources? Return back to sender? It should belong to the house for the leader and officers to manage!
Also, different battlegroups running different maps was a very positive change. But the WHOLE alliance shared the cost, as we shared the rewards. It was fair!
What are you guys doing to the game???
Gold: 437,500 versus 366,576
BC: 58,333 versus 48,305
Loyalty: 43,750 versus 37,963
Problem is you cannot trade anymore so equally weighted everyone has to come up with each class or go with the increasing pricing for one resource (or use units).
Gold - 151k
BC - 11.5K
Loyalty - 10.6K
under your new system with "reduced map costs" spit evenly
Gold - 170k
BC - 20K
Loyalty - 16K
Pls tell me how I sell that to my BG.
this system will destroy most of the alliances that run multiple different maps
why would any of the people in my BG stay in a 665 alliance if they can go to a 666 alliance pay the same cost and get better rewards?
Keep telling us what’s fun and changing things without notice and see how many people keep playing.
I'm curious to see how this will play out.
Just have all maps be free all the time. Those who do maps 6 and 7..hey you’ve completed our most difficult maps with your alliance mates. Congrats! Here are some rewards for your team effort in the game. And leave it at that
This was our alliance in Feb, years of building the treasury down the toilet. Dumb and dumber moves by kabam. People were paying for each other and trading, helping each other. Just putting this up here to know what a bs move this is. The allocation of treasury was to be left to the ally and its leadership, to adjust as needed and to help those who couldn't do the mad grinding needed to sustain aq. The ally was understanding and helped each other all these years. You guys take absolutely no feedback and spit on our faces overnight.
Give us back all the donations, atleast split it amongst the team.
15 tickets per day times 5 days = 75 tickets per week
75 tickets divided by 3 currencies = 25 tickets per currency
25 tickets BC:16.643
25 tickets Gold:155.927
25 tickets Loyalty: 14.472
or
225 units per week
That's more than what i used to donate before..... in a matter of resources this update is worse if that price sheet is correct.