So its not fixed?

Ok if its not fixed how is it possible that you can open 35 plus in Legendary Crystals and never open a 5*

come on give me a break

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Lvernon15

How have you opened 35 legendary crystals period

Fastchoke

I've probably have opened more. Are you calling me a liar?

Repto23

Because you pulled 4 out of 5 (80% 4* to 20% 5*) 35 different times

Fastchoke

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?

DarthPhal

Someone out there got 14 of 35 and done used up all your luck. 😝

Demonzfyre

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?

He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?

Fastchoke

lol touche...yea seems off to me...like Proff said... I just go by numbers...I've spent probably close to 9k or more on this game (and I'm ok with that ) but the % does seem off...based on %

Demonzfyre

lol touche...yea seems off to me...like Proff said... I just go by numbers...I've spent probably close to 9k or more on this game (and I'm ok with that ) but the % does seem off...based on %

Well your real first problem is listening to anything Prof Hoff says.

Fastchoke

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?
He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?

from Black ISO Market, Deals etc and that was my question...if they are independent then it would matter if you open 1 or 10 no?

Demonzfyre

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?
He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?
from Black ISO Market, Deals etc and that was my question...if they are independent then it would matter if you open 1 or 10 no?

It doesn't. 35/35 4*'s from those is entirely possible and more.common than you might think. Dorky Diggity Dave used to do crystal openings where he tracked how many phcs it was before he got a 4 star. He went over 100 a few times. But its not proof they are rigged. Just as if you had pulled 1, 2 or 5 5*'s from them, you wouldn't be here. Don't believe Hoff. It's just how RNG works. More so when you are opening a crystal with terrible odds.

ItsDamien

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?
He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?
from Black ISO Market, Deals etc and that was my question...if they are independent then it would matter if you open 1 or 10 no?
It doesn't. 35/35 4*'s from those is entirely possible and more.common than you might think. Dorky Diggity Dave used to do crystal openings where he tracked how many phcs it was before he got a 4 star. He went over 100 a few times. But its not proof they are rigged. Just as if you had pulled 1, 2 or 5 5*'s from them, you wouldn't be here. Don't believe Hoff. It's just how RNG works. More so when you are opening a crystal with terrible odds.

To be honest I'm shocked that people still listen to him.

Fastchoke

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?
He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?

from Black ISO Market, Deals etc

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?
He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?
from Black ISO Market, Deals etc and that was my question...if they are independent then it would matter if you open 1 or 10 no?
It doesn't. 35/35 4*'s from those is entirely possible and more.common than you might think. Dorky Diggity Dave used to do crystal openings where he tracked how many phcs it was before he got a 4 star. He went over 100 a few times. But its not proof they are rigged. Just as if you had pulled 1, 2 or 5 5*'s from them, you wouldn't be here. Don't believe Hoff. It's just how RNG works. More so when you are opening a crystal with terrible odds.

I understand what you are saying....but wouldn't that prove that? Terrible odds its says 20-80% that's not as "terrible" as opening 35 and not getting a single 5* is it??? I mean I'm going off what the % they tell me it is...and 20% seems bogus no?

GroundedWisdom

I've bought 4 from the Black ISO Market. 2 were 5*s. So....RNG.

Fastchoke

ok so im just that unlucky? ok understood

Snizzbar

Just did a quick calculation - if 10000 people opened 35 crystals at 80/20 odds, then approximately four will get nothing but 4*. Very unlucky, and quite unlikely, but entirely possible.

SorLyonn

So essentially to break it down like the other people already did but in a new way. Instead of the first crystal being 1/5 and leaving the next 4 crystals with only 4 possible rolls left (if the first one is a 4* then the next 4 have to be 3 4* and a 5* to keep these odds of 20%) each crystal is the first and only crystal in that probability calculation so each one is 1/5 chance and because of this the chance will always be 20% even no matter if you get 10 thousand 4* or 100 5* each and every crystal is a 1/5 chance. The way math works means it is possible to open 1 million Legendary Crystals and not get a single 5* and it isn't rigged because that's just how odds work. The lottery doesn't go from being 1/1 million (definitely higher odds than the actual odds of winning) to being 1/999k because someone won each lottery is separate and a new 1/1 mil chance.

Candid_and_Frank

@Snizzbar is correct. Very unlikely, but possible. It’s an easy calculation. I think the problem some people have is that they always feel that they are the ones that fall into this extremely unlikely scenario. I’ve certainly been there and do wonder if everything is truly 100% random. There’s really no way to know for sure as we’ll never get that level of transparency. We have to assume that they’re being fair and just go with that.

BertTheSilverSurfer

lol touche...yea seems off to me...like Proff said... I just go by numbers...I've spent probably close to 9k or more on this game (and I'm ok with that ) but the % does seem off...based on %

don't listen to prof. He just makes things up and always talks about the "data", but he doesn't have any actual proof or numbers.

Each individual crystal has a 20% chance for a 5 star. 35 crystals does not impact that drop rate

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Candid_and_Frank

At 80/20 the odds of not getting the 5 star is 0.8 raised to the power of the number of crystals opened. If you open 35, the odds of not getting a 5 star are 0.8^35 or 0.0004. Pretty slim odds. We can at least agree on that?

Rulllor

The whole game is rigged but thats how it's designed otherwise it wouldn't be as successful.

Here's a video from one of the games content creator explaining some of Kabam's patents that may shed some light on your 'mystery box' pulls

https://youtu.be/rEtxmHgZ35c

DarthPhal

At 80/20 the odds of not getting the 5 star is 0.8 raised to the power of the number of crystals opened. If you open 35, the odds of not getting a 5 star are 0.8^35 or 0.0004. Pretty slim odds. We can at least agree on that?

Yes. The problem is that really bad luck is virtually indistinguishable from malevolence.

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RonSwanson

Someone out there got 14 of 35 and done used up all your luck. 😝

I did this a few weeks back, out of 6 Legendary crystals

DarthPhal

The whole game is rigged but thats how it's designed otherwise it wouldn't be as successful.

Here's a video from one of the games content creator explaining some of Kabam's patents that may shed some light on your 'mystery box' pulls

https://youtu.be/rEtxmHgZ35c

Rulllor

The whole game is rigged but thats how it's designed otherwise it wouldn't be as successful.

Here's a video from one of the games content creator explaining some of Kabam's patents that may shed some light on your 'mystery box' pulls

https://youtu.be/rEtxmHgZ35c

Not as far fetch as you think but believe what you want to believe dude. It is your life and live it the way you want to live it.

The whole concept of "targetting" based on whatever factors you want to configure it to is nothing new. It is everywhere in the world so why wouldn't a game specifically designed to get you addicted not use this concept? Seems pretty dumb not to use it eh?

Demonzfyre

The whole game is rigged but thats how it's designed otherwise it wouldn't be as successful.

Here's a video from one of the games content creator explaining some of Kabam's patents that may shed some light on your 'mystery box' pulls

https://youtu.be/rEtxmHgZ35c

@Rulllor prof Hoff is not a content creator. This video doesn't prove anything other than you can't think for yourself. When a YouTuber has to say "the data" like 10 times in a video but not present any data, they shouldn't be trusted.

The patent debate has been around for years and not once has anyone been able to show that it exists in the game.

Demonzfyre

not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?
He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?
from Black ISO Market, Deals etc
not following? i have never opened a 5* out of more than 35....are you saying the scale is 10 or 100?
He's saying each crystal is 80/20% independently. The real question is where have you gotten 35 legendary crystals?
from Black ISO Market, Deals etc and that was my question...if they are independent then it would matter if you open 1 or 10 no?
It doesn't. 35/35 4*'s from those is entirely possible and more.common than you might think. Dorky Diggity Dave used to do crystal openings where he tracked how many phcs it was before he got a 4 star. He went over 100 a few times. But its not proof they are rigged. Just as if you had pulled 1, 2 or 5 5*'s from them, you wouldn't be here. Don't believe Hoff. It's just how RNG works. More so when you are opening a crystal with terrible odds.
I understand what you are saying....but wouldn't that prove that? Terrible odds its says 20-80% that's not as "terrible" as opening 35 and not getting a single 5* is it??? I mean I'm going off what the % they tell me it is...and 20% seems bogus no?

It doesn't prove anything other than bad luck and that true RNG exists.

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GroundedWisdom

The whole game is rigged but thats how it's designed otherwise it wouldn't be as successful.

Here's a video from one of the games content creator explaining some of Kabam's patents that may shed some light on your 'mystery box' pulls

https://youtu.be/rEtxmHgZ35c
@Rulllor prof Hoff is not a content creator. This video doesn't prove anything other than you can't think for yourself. When a YouTuber has to say "the data" like 10 times in a video but not present any data, they shouldn't be trusted.

The patent debate has been around for years and not once has anyone been able to show that it exists in the game.

Not to mention, if someone has a PhD in Journalism, they should know enough about Sensationalism and reporting false news. That one I never really got over. Lol.