I think this is ****. We do not and will not run higher than map 5. I want my resources back so I can work on upgrading Champs. These tickets were a waste.
Has anyone gotten this yet? Asking around in some alliance chats and I haven’t heard anything
There's a lot of players that will be getting this, so it will take a while.
What happens if you changed alliances?
It was not based on Alliance, so don't worry if other Summoners in your alliance have gotten their message, but you haven't yet.
Miike, quick question Can you say if there are plans to allow for these tickets to traded back in for glory/BC/gold? I've got 115 tickets now which... tbh i have no idea what that amounts to but feels pretty reasonable to me...
but ive never run map 6 or 7 and honestly never intend to, so these tickets are worthless to me, a simple gold or loyalty exchange for a period to allow those of us who dont need these tickets would be really good imo
I got 430. I traded a lot of gold for loyalty and sometimes chips. Wasn't sure how they would account for lower donations in one area but I'm happy with the return.
15 tickets? Really? 15? Honestly, I am supposed to trust this calculation? Unreal, honestly I have no more words
How many should you have received?
I doubt most people kept track of what they donated each week. So I guess we have to take Kabams word for it? And since they never told us what happens if you donated a ton of gold just to keep the alliance flush then we will never know how to calculate ticket refunds greater than 1.3m gold. So we should just trust they didnt mess anything up because Kabam NEVER makes mistakes and are always EXTREMELY transparent
I’m no rocket scientist but as a map 6 alliance I got refunded 3 tickets for my 5 months back of alliance quest donations 😂
No clue if this is what I am supposed to get back or not since Kabam hasn't been close to transparent on this at all.
No information on how much I donated, how much was used, or how their scaling works after the first 150 tickets of the same resource. I asked several times for the last part, and while Moderators answered some really dumb questions, ignored my questions. So I can only assume I got the shift because it always seems when moderators ignore a question its because you won't like the answer or something shady is going on behind the scenes.
Kabam, Something is weird with the balance distribution of the alliance tickets, I have been member of alliances for so long and been donating fairly. I do not understand why I only receive the, supposed to be 6months of donations, virtually nothing at all....
It’s highly inconceivable... kindly redo the accounting please or provide us the computation/calculation of the returned alliance tickets vs our accumulated donations
How was the amount of tickets refunded calculated?
This was explained in the announcement but many people seem to have misinterpreted it or glossed over it. The announcement said Kabam would datamine your last five months of donations and refund that amount minus map costs.
I don't know the precise details of the calculation, but the way that reads it is very possible to get nothing back, or very little. Suppose you were donating exactly what you should have been donating to run the maps you've been running for the past five months. In that case, your donations minus your map costs would be zero, and you wouldn't get back any tickets. I would imagine the vast majority of players would be getting zero or a tiny amount (because donations are rounded off by many alliances, many players donate a tiny fraction more than necessary).
The intent of the refund was not to refund alliance treasuries back to players. It was to refund donations players made recently that were never actually used to run maps. A lot of people thought they were getting five months worth of donations refunded, but that's not what the announcement actually said.
Since AQ was based on an 8 day cycle and most people paid weekly donations, doesn’t that mean anyone who paid the minimum donations every week the last 5 months is guaranteed tickets back?
Would have been an extra 12.5% every week.
Some alliances factor that into their calculations. Mine did back in the day.
This one is a win for Mercs, they'll never have to pay for another AQ as long as this games around!!
Accounts used to farm alliance donations would be potentially getting a ton of tickets, but those accounts aren't always used to actually run AQ. Since tickets can't be traded or gifted, they are just trapped in those accounts. Even if they do use them, donation farming accounts used to be able to supply the donations for dozens of players, and now they are essentially reduced to supplying one account, and one specific account, and that's still a significant impact on those accounts. In particular, they can't really be profitable doing this anymore.
Kabam, Something is weird with the balance distribution of the alliance tickets, I have been member of alliances for so long and been donating fairly. I do not understand why I only receive the, supposed to be 6months of donations, virtually nothing at all....
Hey, you got 5 times more than me, I don't know why you are complaining!
I was,donating 200,000 a week in gold. Was #1 in my alliance for donations every week for over a year. And I got back crumbs, this is totally wack.
If you could put solid numbers behind this with specifics, it is possible Kabam might be able to track down an error they could correct. I know my own refund was in error, but I also believe I know what the error was and reported it to them. My error was too high, way, way too high, so it would probably be in my best interests to shut the heck up, but I think if they are made aware of how this might have glitched, maybe they might find a way to address it for anyone affected,
How was the amount of tickets refunded calculated?
This was explained in the announcement but many people seem to have misinterpreted it or glossed over it. The announcement said Kabam would datamine your last five months of donations and refund that amount minus map costs.
It was never fully explained how they calculated anything, so nobody knows if what they got was indeed correct. All we know is they chose to go back 5 months, without any discussion why they picked that many months.
They haven't been transparent at all, and all people are asking for is to be 100% transparent on how they determined what people got back.
The intent of the refund was not to refund alliance treasuries back to players. It was to refund donations players made recently that were never actually used to run maps. A lot of people thought they were getting five months worth of donations refunded, but that's not what the announcement actually said.
Never actually used *yet*. Nobody could have predicted the future, what if they were taking a 6 month break, but before that, they donated millions in resources, with the intention of going back to map 6/7 at some point? Kabam basically robbed them blind.
This whole process has been shortsighted and very deceptive.
another completely botched solution. it is hard to not be negative towards just about everything right now. I really hope they pull up from this nose dive
another completely botched solution. it is hard to not be negative towards just about everything right now. I really hope they pull up from this nose dive
another completely botched solution. it is hard to not be negative towards just about everything right now. I really hope they pull up from this nose dive
What’s botched about it
there is no way its accurate, it is benefiting people who donated more of one resource and traded with another more than people who just evenly donated, they stole entire alliance treasuries that in some cases were overflowed where map cost were covered for months and now players are receiving back less than a single weeks aq cost, I can go on but it is a complete s show
How was the amount of tickets refunded calculated?
This was explained in the announcement but many people seem to have misinterpreted it or glossed over it. The announcement said Kabam would datamine your last five months of donations and refund that amount minus map costs.
It was never fully explained how they calculated anything, so nobody knows if what they got was indeed correct. All we know is they chose to go back 5 months, without any discussion why they picked that many months.
They haven't been transparent at all, and all people are asking for is to be 100% transparent on how they determined what people got back.
The intent of the refund was not to refund alliance treasuries back to players. It was to refund donations players made recently that were never actually used to run maps. A lot of people thought they were getting five months worth of donations refunded, but that's not what the announcement actually said.
Never actually used *yet*. Nobody could have predicted the future, what if they were taking a 6 month break, but before that, they donated millions in resources, with the intention of going back to map 6/7 at some point? Kabam basically robbed them blind.
This whole process has been shortsighted and very deceptive.
I'm not relitigating the purpose of the refunds; I made those thoughts clear back then. The question was how the refunds themselves were being calculated, and while I stated directly that we don't know the specifics, we do know the broad strokes. It is entirely possible for those calculations to determine the refund amount would be very low, given the expressed refund mechanics announced.
If you want to relitigate the philosophy of the refunds that's your prerogative, but it will reduce the chances that players who might have gotten fewer tickets than the refund system intended draw the attention of the right people to look at the problem.
15 tickets? Really? 15? Honestly, I am supposed to trust this calculation? Unreal, honestly I have no more words
How many should you have received?
I doubt most people kept track of what they donated each week. So I guess we have to take Kabams word for it? And since they never told us what happens if you donated a ton of gold just to keep the alliance flush then we will never know how to calculate ticket refunds greater than 1.3m gold. So we should just trust they didnt mess anything up because Kabam NEVER makes mistakes and are always EXTREMELY transparent
I’m no rocket scientist but as a map 6 alliance I got refunded 3 tickets for my 5 months back of alliance quest donations 😂
I don't know why people don't read the announcement. You don't get tickets for the 5 months worth. They take what 5 months worth of donations are and then give tickets based on anything in excess of 5 months.
If you got 3 tickets then you didn't have much extra in terms of donations.
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No clue if this is what I am supposed to get back or not since Kabam hasn't been close to transparent on this at all.
No information on how much I donated, how much was used, or how their scaling works after the first 150 tickets of the same resource. I asked several times for the last part, and while Moderators answered some really dumb questions, ignored my questions. So I can only assume I got the shift because it always seems when moderators ignore a question its because you won't like the answer or something shady is going on behind the scenes.
The discrepancies between refunds in our alliance was enormous and we all donated the same amount
I can't belive this company cannot do anything right!
Something is weird with the balance distribution of the alliance tickets, I have been member of alliances for so long and been donating fairly. I do not understand why I only receive the, supposed to be 6months of donations, virtually nothing at all....
I don't know the precise details of the calculation, but the way that reads it is very possible to get nothing back, or very little. Suppose you were donating exactly what you should have been donating to run the maps you've been running for the past five months. In that case, your donations minus your map costs would be zero, and you wouldn't get back any tickets. I would imagine the vast majority of players would be getting zero or a tiny amount (because donations are rounded off by many alliances, many players donate a tiny fraction more than necessary).
The intent of the refund was not to refund alliance treasuries back to players. It was to refund donations players made recently that were never actually used to run maps. A lot of people thought they were getting five months worth of donations refunded, but that's not what the announcement actually said.
All we know is they chose to go back 5 months, without any discussion why they picked that many months.
They haven't been transparent at all, and all people are asking for is to be 100% transparent on how they determined what people got back.
Never actually used *yet*. Nobody could have predicted the future, what if they were taking a 6 month break, but before that, they donated millions in resources, with the intention of going back to map 6/7 at some point? Kabam basically robbed them blind.
This whole process has been shortsighted and very deceptive.
If you want to relitigate the philosophy of the refunds that's your prerogative, but it will reduce the chances that players who might have gotten fewer tickets than the refund system intended draw the attention of the right people to look at the problem.
If you got 3 tickets then you didn't have much extra in terms of donations.