**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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You seeing it as a disadvantage is the same as someone complaining they used their AG on a champion and then pulled the champion in their next crystal. Things like this happen in the game and decisions are based on the exact moment in the game. Some people only use resources on champions they want to take up. Others do for some purpose be it to beat a certain piece of content or in this case the Prestige race.
Ofc its a big deal, its always a big deal. Do you even play this game. When you don't allow even access to stuff or people gain a perceived advantage there is always backlash. Why even be surprised at this. Take the rifts situations recently or Look at when AW rewards gave double rewards, or when the challenge event allowed people to do it twice getting double rewards or when ever compensation or rewards are like Hotel MODOK split based on Title. Atleast with the stuff related to your title it based on your progression in the game. This situation is people are getting less rewards for the same content. So backlash was to be expected and should of been expected by kabam
It's absolutely is a disadvantage. One that I'm overly upset over? Not really. But acting like only one side loses out is flat out disingenuous.
None of this is that big of a deal especially if you weren't doing Abyss anytime soon as by the time you'd be doing it 6* shards will be far more common. They're starting cav difficulty testing in a couple of weeks.
also i don't see anybody arguing that anybody is owed anything, i think the only argument truly is if the 15k shards is meaningful enough or not to warrant this kind of response.
Do you expect players to be entitled to rank down tickets if they ranked up a champion and then a new more powerful champion was added to the crystal/game and they pulled them ?
Do you expect people to be reimbursed for resources used to finish content because new champions have been released that means you need to use less items as there is better counters ? r4 starlords, Gwenpool etc in LoL compared to r5 Aegon
Because that's what your basically saying should happen. After all that is the fairness some people seem to be arguing for.
You’re welcome to straw man the argument for advantages and equality with one of design and champion additions but it’s still going to be a straw man any way you put it.
The resource comment was used to introduce the concept that changes in rewards must be equal in effect, or that 15k shards is game changing; it certainly is not comparative to an addition of a champion to the pool.
I’d be all for a change that put everyone on equal footing however that’s impossible given people Have already made decisions based on rewards from end game content that affects their accounts for quite a time to come. Complaining that people have 15k less shards than someone who has been denied an opportunity to make an informed decision is extremely short sighted and selfishly petty since they have such a huge advantage over someone with 15k shards.
There is no going back from this point to make people whole, people are not disadvantaged by being given a class specific nexus crystal with 10 options for 15k shards when compared to people who have made decisions relating to catalysts, gems and stones absent the abyss crystal’s impact and have 15k more shards than them.
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BFD if you think you‘re behind 15k shards from someone else, when that someone else is behind the most valuable reward in the contest, choice.
go read DNA's post because clearly your missing the point.
One side does lose out. one side has 15k less shards for completing the same content. Everything else is all RNG dependent.
FYI: image below defines fair. (Courtesy: Google)
Just goes to show
1. you don't listen to the playing community
2. You are so out of touch with the players
Once again you stuff things up. you really know how to alienate your customers.
I have completed 100% AOL and I don't think it is fair to those who haven't completed the content that they miss out on the 15k 6 star shards - even foe end game players that is a significant amount. It is wrong plain and simple.
The other complaint I have is that you should of included a T5CC selector crystal as part of the rewards
While the new class based 1/10 crystal is good it doesn't go far enough
I have finished all content and have 4 T5CC that I can't use due to pulling trash champs and having duplicate T5CC
After this announcement I have no faith in your road map or future of the game....
Is there anywhere on Earth where this actually works? So i can avoid it in the future?
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I certainly won’t let you get it past me.
Perhaps you should follow the original discussion and address it as whole rather than take a specific portion simplifying and mischaracterizing the argument.
Did you bother to answer the question, which is more powerful 15k shards or being able to make an informed decision? And remember I’m not asking about future champion additions to the game, I am specifically referencing (at this time) finite resources that are unobtainable anywhere else and in the context of people who have previously used end game resources that come at great expense to them (Time or money, I busted my butt in arena to do abyss).
Or perhaps, since you’re big on numbers, you can tell me what are my odds of being able to target a champion with the abyss nexus crystal who I can make better use of a generic awakening gem and t5cc on when I have previously used them with the knowledge that the rewards from the abyss were the only rewards I would get from the abyss? Then compare those odds to someone who has yet to obtain a generic awakening gem. We already know the answer on my end, zero. Don’t bother with the odds it’s already clear who has the advantage of the abyss nexus crystal while the other is left with 1.5 random champions.
And this isn’t to say that I’m put off by being in this position. I’m capable of accepting the hand I was dealt and that I played. But for someone else to tell me that I have an advantage over them in this situation and that they are now behind me in terms of the Abyss rewards “BeCAUse 15k sHaRDs” is beyond ludicrous it’s practically insulting. Additionally this change undermines the confidence players have when making decisions relating to rewards given to them. Why should I ever strive for end game rewards when it’s being shown putting them off can be advantageous?
Your basically opening another crystal. Its no different to ranking up a champion and then pulling a better champion. Or Kabam introducing a new Champion. So how about they don't send those that done abyss the crystal is that now fair. You got 4 1/2 6* for completing Abyss 100%. New players get 4 6* for 100% AoL.
I can simply argue that by completing Abyss when you did you accepted the rewards as there were and therefore forgo any entitlement to any updates on rewards. That would then justify why the rewards now have less shards to make room for this other crystal as an extra incentive for people to 100% the content as people haven't been trying to do the content because they haven't been happy with the rewards. You doing it implies you was happy doing it.
I don't think they should do that as its only fair those who complete the content get access to this crystal. But thats because i'm not trying to deny others rewards unlike yourself.
15k 6* shards is basically 6 months of just grinding UC monthly EQ, so pretty valuable resource still.
Lets not forget that players can't base their choice of class on the two t5cc crystals they get from Abyss. Where as those who already completed it can make that decision.
but by all means keep asking for players to be denied access to the same resources just because you didn't get to use them in the same way.
All of the various implementation glitches, such as the order in which rewards are opened and the way the transition from existing Abyss players to future Abyss runners, are more likely the result of a bunch of compromises internally over how such large magnitude rewards should be altered. Kabam Miike's statement about how randomness is being reduced in the champion crystals but not in the rank up rewards is a clear indication of the debate that happened internally, as Kabam Miike doesn't make economy decisions: this reflects what the designers are telling him about why certain things were changed and others were not.
Also, the idea that not as many players are doing the Abyss as they expected sounds extremely unlikely to me. Far more people are doing it and completing it than I or anyone else likely would have predicted before it launched. After it launched everyone was describing it as if there was a land rush to complete it. I did not hear a peep from anyone claiming the Abyss was attracting far fewer players than they expected.