How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. couldn't you also use guilly or xbones, as well as an offensive flow champ that would stop the flow power gain, plus ghost with hood? or am i missing something? Can use G99 but can't keep her built. A lot of the other champs might be able to slow down the power gain, but their inbuilt abilities are directly removed. Magik becomes useless as far as I see. A lot of Warlock's damage is removed unless you keep baiting heavy and intercept with yours to reach a special after a long time. Xbones doesn't have a lot of use vs mystics. Again limits you to G99 and HT. Can't throw any specials with Ghost again if I'm not mistaken. I don't use her, so wouldn't know, but is her damage enough without suicides to use no specials?Also you're missing the point. The idea of flow was that you're able to stop the stacks if you party/well timed block. They removed that partially on window of opportunity. Limiting the champs used or changing playstyle. Sucks, but still somewhat okay. Now, they remove that entire possibility of removing flow unless you have a champ that is a flow champ and somehow heavy intercept continuously to stop it or use HT/G99. Makes some of the flow counters useless. Why limit an already limited pool of champs to counter the global? Why would anyone use ghost without suicides? and why wouldn't you use specials? A lot of champs can also heavy counter, and i believe all champs can heavy counter in the corner. It's polka dot power as well. Isn't that the one where you can't gain any power unless you put DoT on the opponent? How would Ghost use specials? Unless her miss ability counts. And not everyone who isn't at the top runs Suicides whether they use Corvus/Ghost. Stunning Reflection is a direct counter to flow in general. There is no point of part of flow which says you can stop power gain will well timed blocks. So most non flow attackers get screwed on the spot. U can always take of parry. So u don’t tigger stun
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. couldn't you also use guilly or xbones, as well as an offensive flow champ that would stop the flow power gain, plus ghost with hood? or am i missing something? Can use G99 but can't keep her built. A lot of the other champs might be able to slow down the power gain, but their inbuilt abilities are directly removed. Magik becomes useless as far as I see. A lot of Warlock's damage is removed unless you keep baiting heavy and intercept with yours to reach a special after a long time. Xbones doesn't have a lot of use vs mystics. Again limits you to G99 and HT. Can't throw any specials with Ghost again if I'm not mistaken. I don't use her, so wouldn't know, but is her damage enough without suicides to use no specials?Also you're missing the point. The idea of flow was that you're able to stop the stacks if you party/well timed block. They removed that partially on window of opportunity. Limiting the champs used or changing playstyle. Sucks, but still somewhat okay. Now, they remove that entire possibility of removing flow unless you have a champ that is a flow champ and somehow heavy intercept continuously to stop it or use HT/G99. Makes some of the flow counters useless. Why limit an already limited pool of champs to counter the global? Why would anyone use ghost without suicides? and why wouldn't you use specials? A lot of champs can also heavy counter, and i believe all champs can heavy counter in the corner. It's polka dot power as well. Isn't that the one where you can't gain any power unless you put DoT on the opponent? How would Ghost use specials? Unless her miss ability counts. And not everyone who isn't at the top runs Suicides whether they use Corvus/Ghost. Stunning Reflection is a direct counter to flow in general. There is no point of part of flow which says you can stop power gain will well timed blocks. So most non flow attackers get screwed on the spot.
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. couldn't you also use guilly or xbones, as well as an offensive flow champ that would stop the flow power gain, plus ghost with hood? or am i missing something? Can use G99 but can't keep her built. A lot of the other champs might be able to slow down the power gain, but their inbuilt abilities are directly removed. Magik becomes useless as far as I see. A lot of Warlock's damage is removed unless you keep baiting heavy and intercept with yours to reach a special after a long time. Xbones doesn't have a lot of use vs mystics. Again limits you to G99 and HT. Can't throw any specials with Ghost again if I'm not mistaken. I don't use her, so wouldn't know, but is her damage enough without suicides to use no specials?Also you're missing the point. The idea of flow was that you're able to stop the stacks if you party/well timed block. They removed that partially on window of opportunity. Limiting the champs used or changing playstyle. Sucks, but still somewhat okay. Now, they remove that entire possibility of removing flow unless you have a champ that is a flow champ and somehow heavy intercept continuously to stop it or use HT/G99. Makes some of the flow counters useless. Why limit an already limited pool of champs to counter the global? Why would anyone use ghost without suicides? and why wouldn't you use specials? A lot of champs can also heavy counter, and i believe all champs can heavy counter in the corner.
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. couldn't you also use guilly or xbones, as well as an offensive flow champ that would stop the flow power gain, plus ghost with hood? or am i missing something? Can use G99 but can't keep her built. A lot of the other champs might be able to slow down the power gain, but their inbuilt abilities are directly removed. Magik becomes useless as far as I see. A lot of Warlock's damage is removed unless you keep baiting heavy and intercept with yours to reach a special after a long time. Xbones doesn't have a lot of use vs mystics. Again limits you to G99 and HT. Can't throw any specials with Ghost again if I'm not mistaken. I don't use her, so wouldn't know, but is her damage enough without suicides to use no specials?Also you're missing the point. The idea of flow was that you're able to stop the stacks if you party/well timed block. They removed that partially on window of opportunity. Limiting the champs used or changing playstyle. Sucks, but still somewhat okay. Now, they remove that entire possibility of removing flow unless you have a champ that is a flow champ and somehow heavy intercept continuously to stop it or use HT/G99. Makes some of the flow counters useless. Why limit an already limited pool of champs to counter the global?
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. couldn't you also use guilly or xbones, as well as an offensive flow champ that would stop the flow power gain, plus ghost with hood? or am i missing something?
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it.
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed.
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there.
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. couldn't you also use guilly or xbones, as well as an offensive flow champ that would stop the flow power gain, plus ghost with hood? or am i missing something? Can use G99 but can't keep her built. A lot of the other champs might be able to slow down the power gain, but their inbuilt abilities are directly removed. Magik becomes useless as far as I see. A lot of Warlock's damage is removed unless you keep baiting heavy and intercept with yours to reach a special after a long time. Xbones doesn't have a lot of use vs mystics. Again limits you to G99 and HT. Can't throw any specials with Ghost again if I'm not mistaken. I don't use her, so wouldn't know, but is her damage enough without suicides to use no specials?Also you're missing the point. The idea of flow was that you're able to stop the stacks if you party/well timed block. They removed that partially on window of opportunity. Limiting the champs used or changing playstyle. Sucks, but still somewhat okay. Now, they remove that entire possibility of removing flow unless you have a champ that is a flow champ and somehow heavy intercept continuously to stop it or use HT/G99. Makes some of the flow counters useless. Why limit an already limited pool of champs to counter the global? Why would anyone use ghost without suicides? and why wouldn't you use specials? A lot of champs can also heavy counter, and i believe all champs can heavy counter in the corner. It's polka dot power as well. Isn't that the one where you can't gain any power unless you put DoT on the opponent? How would Ghost use specials? Unless her miss ability counts. And not everyone who isn't at the top runs Suicides whether they use Corvus/Ghost. Stunning Reflection is a direct counter to flow in general. There is no point of part of flow which says you can stop power gain will well timed blocks. So most non flow attackers get screwed on the spot. U can always take of parry. So u don’t tigger stun unfortunately no parry = no dex but ya for some fights that would be worth it
Hey everybody,Last week, we asked for your feedback on the Nodes Combinations that you thought were particularly troubling, or more difficult than others. While we want to keep Alliance Wars challenging and always evolving, our intention was not to raise the difficulty level.We've revised the nodes in Blue. These will be going live tomorrow, July 1st.
It looks like they really nerfed that node 23 tho along with ebb flow
Here’s the rubT12 30m alliance Playing for these measly rewards60% of the way through and already 32 deaths per alliance, I’ve used most of my glory on pots this week because I lead my bg, and am obligated to help with the harder nodes. Cost does not equal reward Go itemless in the offseason! Learn from the nodes but don't feel you have to finish the map. Also, maybe if the game is strictly matching by war rating you'll get some matchups in the season that... are a little more in your favor too.
Here’s the rubT12 30m alliance Playing for these measly rewards60% of the way through and already 32 deaths per alliance, I’ve used most of my glory on pots this week because I lead my bg, and am obligated to help with the harder nodes. Cost does not equal reward
I also updated the four maps I made: https://imgur.com/gallery/608pnTj
@Kabam Miike stubborn is wrong in tier 1?I thought the update meant to change it to 1 indestructible passive only? Instead it’s 2???
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. you are overhyping it a bit. you can for sure use g2099. First off why do you want to make sure to charge her for the next fight atleast get this one doneeven so she puts so many degen debuffs if anyone can get to sp3 its her for sure.I read 12% of a bar of power thats not too bad considering how many debuffs she puts out
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. you are overhyping it a bit. you can for sure use g2099. First off why do you want to make sure to charge her for the next fight atleast get this one doneeven so she puts so many degen debuffs if anyone can get to sp3 its her for sure.I read 12% of a bar of power thats not too bad considering how many debuffs she puts out Degen isn't a DoT. Doubt that counts. Also, I said that you can use her. Read the posts after. Just sucks that you can't build her for next ones at all. It's a silly combination of nodes when you include flow. Her degen IS a DoT.
How do you face a flow champ on stunning reflection and polka dot power? Can't use Void, can't use Magik. Throw mojo or Magik there and watch the fun. Basically you need HT and even invul boost won't save you. Nice work Kabam. Made the node even worse than it was. Literally killed most of the counters to champs there. Why can’t u not use void u can. Just a slow fight My bad. Can use, but you might time out. No way of stopping flow using him until you get the Petrify. A lot of counters to Flow champs were just nerfed. Well can’t u just quack that node to no sure if quack shut down the node with the concussion Not sure tbh. Good choice. Might work. Still limits the champs even more. I might have been a bit hasty, but the combination is still really messed up. Not an improvement from the last iteration. Can't use CG, not sure if Dusa will shut down the entire node or not. Magik won't work. Can't build G99 on that node for future fights as well. And won't be able to power control using her if I'm right. Can't shock with Warlock or armour break. Basically made it such that only 2-3 champs can deal with it. you are overhyping it a bit. you can for sure use g2099. First off why do you want to make sure to charge her for the next fight atleast get this one doneeven so she puts so many degen debuffs if anyone can get to sp3 its her for sure.I read 12% of a bar of power thats not too bad considering how many debuffs she puts out Degen isn't a DoT. Doubt that counts. Also, I said that you can use her. Read the posts after. Just sucks that you can't build her for next ones at all. It's a silly combination of nodes when you include flow.
Uhm hello what is that? 2 charges?
Stunning reflection with Flow! It's still there. Goodbye war. I don't want to waste items on stupid Mojo or Dora fighting only with magik all the time @Kabam Miike
amazing job, you just entirely killed Ghost and Quake, who is the next? Corvus and Doom I guess?