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as others have said it was due to a previously broken unfair matchmaking system that has allowed small alliances to climb up higher than larger alliances where they did not belong.

now the matchmaking algorithm is changed there will be some bad matchups while the system corrects itself.
You mean after several rounds of AW, the matchmaking will be tuned into an appropriate algorithm?
No, he means after several wars your war rating will be fixed to where your supposed to be. If it means you lose all those wars because you were over inflated in prior seasons then so be it.
This guy gets it

yep he does

Sensei_Maat

as others have said it was due to a previously broken unfair matchmaking system that has allowed small alliances to climb up higher than larger alliances where they did not belong.

now the matchmaking algorithm is changed there will be some bad matchups while the system corrects itself.
You mean after several rounds of AW, the matchmaking will be tuned into an appropriate algorithm?
No, he means after several wars your war rating will be fixed to where your supposed to be. If it means you lose all those wars because you were over inflated in prior seasons then so be it.

exactly

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Seraphion

You still earn more points by losing in high tier than winning in low tier. Im pretty sure you might end higher this season and not lower.

Seraphion

I understand but all I am saying is that they could have done this is the offseason they screwed us for season rewards

you cant do it in offseason bc high alliances lose wars then by not playing to start next season vs lower alliances. Thats why warrating is frozen in offseason

Dhruvshah

Dude u just proved my point this system is for highrated alliances

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Jeal79_sub

Dude u just proved my point this system is for highrated alliances

You mean rewarding players for progressing their accounts?
God forbid!
As I've said elsewhere, if you can't beat the team you are drawn against then why do you deserve the same reward/rating

Dhruvshah

Dude when people start they dont have 5 stars and some people dont like spending money and progressing takes time, war helps a lot with that

xNig

Dude u just proved my point this system is for highrated alliances

No you’re just tone deaf tbh.

Alliances tank war ratings across ALL tiers to start lower and win their way up. So doing it in the off season doesn’t make sense. It’s been proven to be so.

Just ignore this season, play item free, and let yourself float to your equilibrium war rating. Matchups will be much better after that.

midhun1mamachan

Hi kabam.

Nowadays, our matchmaking is so bad. Specially after the introduction of new map and nodes.

This is data of my alliance,

This is our opponent team.

Please Stop matchmaking by comparing with war rating.
In off season, war ratings can be reduced by loosing the wars,

Either stop redusing war rating in off season.
Or
You guys can match with the alliance prestige.
Or .
Matchmake with a new technique.
Like,
Alliance war count.
Win percent.
Or something else..

Kindly please please avoid these horror matchmaking..

MIDHUN MAMACHAN 😒😒
(midhu)

Dhruvshah

Not a single one of u are In a low alliance I bet u are probably liking the unfair matchups

xNig

You got to be kidding kabam, is unfair the war between my alliance and one of 41 million
You have to fix that

Based on war rating, it’s as fair as can be. Or were you benefitting from Plat rewards for the past 10 seasons and can’t fight other alliances ranked in the SAME tier as you?

Monk1

This will happen a lot in next 2-3 weeks as everyone finds their true place and tier.

Quite rightly you will now match someone on war rating only - look at the global list and u will see who has what rating, so should not be a surprise

Jeal79_sub

Okay, are you for real?

Yes, I'm aware that a two point difference is about as close as it gets. Despite your implied conclusion, I'm not moronic.

The issue here is not whether one alliance is more skilled than the other, unless you correlate alliance prestige with skill, but let me try to posting it in a way that then make sense.

The example is that a sunday league team that wins 50% of their matches, suddenly gets paired with a professional team, because they also happen to have won 50% of their matches.

Despite what Hollywood may have given you the impression of, no, the Sunday league team doesn't win by sheer pluck and a clever game plan.

So my complaint is, while obviously alliance prestige playing into matchmaking had flaws, at least it did attempt to minimize matches that were grossly unbalanced, power-wise.

They don't give a Sunday league team millions of £ for their wins though do they.

Only 1 set of rewards in MCOC wars. You seem to imply you are entitled to the same prize as much bigger Alliances because account size shouldn't be a factor which is not how the game works.

Act 6 doesn't scale based on your account size. Why should wars?

xNig

War ratings is locked in the off season, so no.

You both ended in Gold 3 last Season and have the same war rating. What’s the issue? Can’t beat an alliance ranked in the SAME reward bracket and have the SAME war rating?

Says a lot, doesn’t it?

Mauled

War rating is fixed off season.

If matchmaking is done off prestige then you end up with the result that we previously had: smaller alliances vaulting large alliances in the rankings without actually having to beat them. To use my alliance as an example, we're ~30m or so and around 9.5k prestige and we fight T2 wars. Two seasons ago we were sitting happily in P1, only fighting alliances with a similar prestige/size to us, and you could argue that we had an inflated position because we're not coming across the 45m alliances full of R3 6* defences. Our alliance was the highest rated alliance that NoName, who won a couple of seasons ago, fought (obviously they beat us), but there's no way that it is fair that you can top the leaderboard without facing the best the world has to offer.

Ultimately, this change will probably hurt us, but if we maintain P1 it's because despite our smaller alliance size, it's because we beat the big boys and the smaller alliances who are trying to play for big stakes like us; if we don't make it, well, we'll grow.

xNig

There’s a TWO point difference in war rating. That’s as fair as it can be.

If your alliance is really skilled and deserves the win, you can win it by dying less than the opponent.

If you can’t win, then what are you complaining about? Lol
Okay, are you for real?

Yes, I'm aware that a two point difference is about as close as it gets. Despite your implied conclusion, I'm not moronic.

The issue here is not whether one alliance is more skilled than the other, unless you correlate alliance prestige with skill, but let me try to posting it in a way that then make sense.

The example is that a sunday league team that wins 50% of their matches, suddenly gets paired with a professional team, because they also happen to have won 50% of their matches.

Despite what Hollywood may have given you the impression of, no, the Sunday league team doesn't win by sheer pluck and a clever game plan.

So my complaint is, while obviously alliance prestige playing into matchmaking had flaws, at least it did attempt to minimize matches that were grossly unbalanced, power-wise.

This system will too, in time. Now is just the phase at which your overly inflated war ratings will backfire against you and you get matchups against stronger alliances due to it.

Frosty

Dude when people start they dont have 5 stars and some people dont like spending money and progressing takes time, war helps a lot with that

So you want people who just start getting a chance at rank up materials for rank 3 6*s?

Matchmaking has beem broken for many seasons, this is the first war of a new season which won't make or break your entire season.

As it was before alliances with 35 million rating may have been stuck in gold 3 constantly fighting alliances with 35 million rating as well. Rewards in gold 3 won't help progress an account much when its already over 1+ million rating.

This new war matchmaking will help distribute rewards to those accounts deserving of them and who can actually use them

xNig

Not a single one of u are In a low alliance I bet u are probably liking the unfair matchups

If my alliance gets matched with yours, I’m sure we will have a heyday of slaughtering you guys down just solely because of what you just said.

Dhruvshah

Thank you for proving my point again

Dhruvshah

And thx frosty for being calm about it

Frosty

Thank you for proving my point again

You've made no point.

You've only showed that for the last few seasons you were getting rewards you shouldn't have. The alliance your now matched with is clearly stronger and thus deserving of better rewards. Why should you get the same rewards or better than alliances that you can't beat

Dhruvshah

The thing is we were silver 2 last season and the other one was gold 2

Dhruvshah

So something fishy is going on there

xNig

Lol. Nothing fishy. Just your inflated war ratings. If that smells like fish to you, it sure does smell like that to others too.

Dhruvshah

We were playing an ally that is twice as better us and already has 2 times the rewards so what is ur point

midhun1mamachan

@xNig , @Mauled
Oh. Maybe you guys are right.
But Bros, they are double of our alliance, maybe I can do, but not all my family can't. Few are new , few are learning, few are busy, few are talented. It's a mixed multinational Alliance.
We felt this so bad. And I shared behalf of them.
Thanks.

Stewman

Below a certain tier war rating is NOT locked.

lowlevelplayer

@xNig , @Mauled
Oh. Maybe you guys are right.
But Bros, they are double of our alliance, maybe I can do, but not all my family can't. Few are new , few are learning, few are busy, few are talented. It's a mixed multinational Alliance.
We felt this so bad. And I shared behalf of them.
Thanks.

if you are at the same war rating as them, it means that you are supposed to be able to handle them. Unless everyone in the alliance left in the off season, then there really is no excuse