Matchmaking Discussion [Merged Threads]

It's ridiculous. Don't listen to people saying everything is as it should be.
yesterday
6M vs 44 M
today
6M VS 0.5M
It's still ridiculous

*cropped out the pics to reduce clutter in the thread*

what is ridiculous is a 5.7million ally with a 1300 WR.
you have 40mil allies that can't climb above t9 whilst you have tiny allies up in t4.
all you are doing here is showing exactly how the matchmaking was broken, the actual extent of its impact and exactly why it needs fixing.

This content has been removed.

This content has been removed.

This content has been removed.

people are onl;y getting "un-winnable" matches as @GroundedWisdom likes to call them temporarily as the new system corrects itself.
after a while everything will balance and all will be good.

you say the old broken matchmaking was created only cus of players making exploits.
well so what, it was still broken.
it still needs to be fixed.
it will be fixed.
it will just take time.

fast forward to season 20 and we will be seeing fair matches with alliances based on WR only.
it will be fair for everyone and we will end up seeing the matches that we all agree are fair. yes we all agree including you.

Sir, here I picked this up for you. You seemed to have dropped it, but you can have your mic back.

why thank you!!!!

people are onl;y getting "un-winnable" matches as @GroundedWisdom likes to call them temporarily as the new system corrects itself.
after a while everything will balance and all will be good.

you say the old broken matchmaking was created only cus of players making exploits.
well so what, it was still broken.
it still needs to be fixed.
it will be fixed.
it will just take time.

fast forward to season 20 and we will be seeing fair matches with alliances based on WR only.
it will be fair for everyone and we will end up seeing the matches that we all agree are fair. yes we all agree including you.

Sir, here I picked this up for you. You seemed to have dropped it, but you can have your mic back.

Oh, so you missed the part where that comment was made 2 years ago, and Prestige was suggested much later, when War Rating was made into a joke by Tanking, jumping, punishments, Shells, and any other result of people trying to take advantage of the system. You probably also missed the part where I explained why I suggested Prestige to temporarily stop people from manipulating the system. By all means, keep encouraging him for bringing up a comment from 2 years ago without context.

I wish we could remove Tags.

If you'd like an example....
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/916266#Comment_916266

This content has been removed.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/881054#Comment_881054
A year ago having the same discussion.

All the way back to the time I suggested it and why.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/849613#Comment_849613

This content has been removed.

Deelives

Prime example! If it’s about spending money to win a war then MCOC just lost most of their players!
It’s not worth to invest so much effort, money, and time for this. It’s like have sex and not finishing the climax!

Even after all that, they decided to create baby Allies and take people out. Which is why I have no patience left for it. One unfair turn after another, and those that aren't interested in fair play find any pigeonhole they can to screw others over. Then they complain because measures have to be taken to prevent it from happening. Fairness isn't an option apparently. Makes people not even want to play.

This content has been removed.

This content has been removed.

Just stop. Stop tagging me, stop trying to pull me back into this discussion, and stop trying to bring up conversations that happened 2 years ago that I already explained happened before people created the need to use Prestige by manipulating the system.

.......

Leave me out of it. I've said all I have to say.

you can't say this and keep commenting. if you don't want people to talk to you you need to stop talking.
you say you want to be done but you keep coming back and commenting.
stop talking ****.

Speeds80

2.5k prestige alliance should NEVER have been 1200 war rating, my 30m 9.5k prestige alliance has been almost that low because of the ridiculous and broken matchmaking system. this is the thing: everybody keeps saying MOST of the mcoc players are angry or Most are benefiting, its simple, that system rewarded low prestige, it punished high prestige. Those with high prestige were punished and those with low were rewarded. The thing is alliances like mine who have all been playing 4 years and spending money and continuing to play are actually more cement Income for kabam than new alliances that come and go, several of my alliance members have spent 20k plus on this game, we have been stuck in silver 1. And people have been leaving the game/ stopping spending and many other alliances with high prestige have been destroyed because of this system.
2.5k alliances are not the bread and butter of this game. Those who have earnt the right to play for 6* shards by ranking 5/65 defenders and investing in their roster for years. This is the 2.5k alliances reality check

All the way back to the time I suggested it and why.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/849613#Comment_849613

i can't bring up 2 years ago but you can bring up 1 year ago?
c'mon now....

either the past is fair game or you can't bring it up either.

Worknprogress

It's pretty easy to tell the people that have never participated in any competitive events seriously

Speeds80

Actually these complaints are just making me
More mad, I can’t believe kabam watched it get this broken while we were telling them and complaining, please look at my posts I started war season problem posts several times, heard nothing back. We won 7/12 wars last season, still couldn’t climb out of silver 1, now I realise it was because there are what I think must be alliances with 2* defenders with HIGHER WAR RATINGS than us, fighting alliances up to 5 tiers out of the tier they were in, whilst we were fighting and using boosts, and glory store potions for 3* shards, 10 seasons kabam? everybody should be mad at you for your terrible planning and inability to listen to your community or look at the numbers objectively

Mother_Flerken

people are onl;y getting "un-winnable" matches as @GroundedWisdom likes to call them temporarily as the new system corrects itself.
after a while everything will balance and all will be good.

you say the old broken matchmaking was created only cus of players making exploits.
well so what, it was still broken.
it still needs to be fixed.
it will be fixed.
it will just take time.

fast forward to season 20 and we will be seeing fair matches with alliances based on WR only.
it will be fair for everyone and we will end up seeing the matches that we all agree are fair. yes we all agree including you.

Sir, here I picked this up for you. You seemed to have dropped it, but you can have your mic back.
Oh, so you missed the part where that comment was made 2 years ago, and Prestige was suggested much later, when War Rating was made into a joke by Tanking, jumping, punishments, Shells, and any other result of people trying to take advantage of the system. You probably also missed the part where I explained why I suggested Prestige to temporarily stop people from manipulating the system. By all means, keep encouraging him for bringing up a comment from 2 years ago without context.

@GroundedWisdom wait... so you're annoyed at someone looking at something any only commenting on/about certain parts of the post...... OH THE HYPOCRISY

GW meet mirror.

This content has been removed.

CaptainGame

How does a troll get over 32k dislikes, marked for spam and abuse a combined 12.4k times, continue trolling, and not get banned??? It’s absolutely baffling to me.

Skitard

Here’s the deal. If you want the rewards come and beat us and take them now.... some baby alliance with a bunch of wins should not get better rewards than my alliance that would smash them. You want em come and get em....
Like i said... there should be different brackets for alliances to be in... no alliance that is only a couple years old with newer ayers should have to compete with alliances that are full of 1.5 million rated players for a spot in gold... it's impossible to grow strong enough to fight an alliance like yours if you gett way way better rewards for the same amount of victories... thus the fact that there should be a bracket system...

And I'm not saying same rewards... I'm saying of all the alliances that war with a 10mil rated alliance the top winners should get a little bit of 6* shards... people like you are ignorant... come fight us... pshhh... how bout come blow us...
Grow strong to fight alliances like that? There’s EQ SQ and side quests for you to earn your catalysts to grow strong, not only AW. Those “1.5m rated players” you’re talking about? They’ve put in the work/money/time to get these quests done.

If there were a bracketing system, then you guys who are lower will complain about the rewards of the bracket because you guys think you deserve better.

And the fact is, if the “ignorant people” you were talking about were to match with you, yes they will “blow” through your defenses.

You higher rated players are morons... if there was a bracketing system in play and players complained about it I would be right beside you saying "shut up crybabies"... but there isn't so it's **** that an alliance like mine with a 10mil rating is stuck fighting alliances 3x as strong... while climbing to gold 2 we didn't fight alliances 3x weaker... we fought alliances with about the same rating... some higher... a few barely lower... but the point is we won... we lost maybe 4 wars between season 17 and season 18... and I'm sure that a lot of other alliances did as well... just because you higher rated alliances can't hold your own against evenly matched alliances doesn't mean you should get a break and be paired with alliances with 1/3 of the power... but hey... guess that you higher rated guys cried enough for kabam to hear and give you the easy matches you need to get back up there to a spot you can't hold... it's really sad that you guys whined until the weaker alliances got penalized... and then talk **** when the weaker alliances complained about something that truly was unfair... so once you guys get back up there to an even match-up and lose again... just go cry to kabam some more and they'll give you the easy matches you need to think you have any skill... sad that the higher ratings that a lot of you bought came with no skill in the bundle...

LeNoirFaineant

Here’s the deal. If you want the rewards come and beat us and take them now.... some baby alliance with a bunch of wins should not get better rewards than my alliance that would smash them. You want em come and get em....
Like i said... there should be different brackets for alliances to be in... no alliance that is only a couple years old with newer ayers should have to compete with alliances that are full of 1.5 million rated players for a spot in gold... it's impossible to grow strong enough to fight an alliance like yours if you gett way way better rewards for the same amount of victories... thus the fact that there should be a bracket system...

And I'm not saying same rewards... I'm saying of all the alliances that war with a 10mil rated alliance the top winners should get a little bit of 6* shards... people like you are ignorant... come fight us... pshhh... how bout come blow us...
Grow strong to fight alliances like that? There’s EQ SQ and side quests for you to earn your catalysts to grow strong, not only AW. Those “1.5m rated players” you’re talking about? They’ve put in the work/money/time to get these quests done.

If there were a bracketing system, then you guys who are lower will complain about the rewards of the bracket because you guys think you deserve better.

And the fact is, if the “ignorant people” you were talking about were to match with you, yes they will “blow” through your defenses.
You higher rated players are morons... if there was a bracketing system in play and players complained about it I would be right beside you saying "shut up crybabies"... but there isn't so it's **** that an alliance like mine with a 10mil rating is stuck fighting alliances 3x as strong... while climbing to gold 2 we didn't fight alliances 3x weaker... we fought alliances with about the same rating... some higher... a few barely lower... but the point is we won... we lost maybe 4 wars between season 17 and season 18... and I'm sure that a lot of other alliances did as well... just because you higher rated alliances can't hold your own against evenly matched alliances doesn't mean you should get a break and be paired with alliances with 1/3 of the power... but hey... guess that you higher rated guys cried enough for kabam to hear and give you the easy matches you need to get back up there to a spot you can't hold... it's really sad that you guys whined until the weaker alliances got penalized... and then talk **** when the weaker alliances complained about something that truly was unfair... so once you guys get back up there to an even match-up and lose again... just go cry to kabam some more and they'll give you the easy matches you need to think you have any skill... sad that the higher ratings that a lot of you bought came with no skill in the bundle...

You don't know what you are talking about, which is funny given the moron statement lol. Of course you weren't fighting groups 3x lower when it ranked by prestige. You were also allowed to bypass stronger groups competing for the same rewards without having to play them. For all of War's existence until they switched to prestige you would've climbed as high as you could until you faced opponents you couldn't beat. Then you'd stay around that tier level until you got stronger. The skill level is all over the map in the lower prestige groups. It's far more even at higher prestige as everyone has had to beat the same harder content to get there. The pool of alliances at the lower tiers is also larger so if you are a reasonably skilled alliance you have a good chance of getting a match you should win if you only face similar prestige groups. So you climbed higher than you should have and got rewards you shouldn't have, and now you are complaining while accusing higher groups of crying to Kabam lol. You have to fight a few wars you can't win because you had an inflated war rating and that's "truly unfair", so what you are doing isn't "crying", but the inflated war rating and access to higher rewards without fighting the other groups ahead of you to get there was perfectly fair... Sad that you got to gold 2 and were delusional about how you got there.

LeNoirFaineant

@xNig did you see that you aren't skilled? @Skitard said so so it must be true lol.

LeNoirFaineant

@GroundedWisdom you keep saying all you have to say, and then saying more...