Is Human Torch Matchup Dependent?

EdeuinkEdeuink Member Posts: 1,263 ★★★★
in General Discussion
What I mean by the question is whether you would take torch to fight in a matchup without energy damage or mystics. I’ve heard some people say that he needs to fight mystics and energy to do decent damage, others I’ve seen saying that he can still be viable for matchups without mystics and energy damage.

Is Human Torch Matchup Dependent? 77 votes

Yes
58%
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No
41%
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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • WhaaaatWhaaaat Member Posts: 407 ★★★
    Did you just voted?
  • EdeuinkEdeuink Member Posts: 1,263 ★★★★
    Yes
    My dumb self hit yes when I meant no... lol. I don’t think he needs energy damage or mystics, in a sup-optimal matchup, he still outdamages groot. I also think he can gain a lot of extra damage from heal reversal on mutants.
  • Mcoc_alMcoc_al Member Posts: 46 ★
    No
    No.
    Not many champs are incinerate immune and those that are are not nova immune. So the damage in non mystic/energy fights in constant just not massive
  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,100 ★★★★★
    Yes
    Sure he can do fights without mystics and energy damage. Just like sym supreme can do fights without buffs. Or like karnak in any fight.
    Also you'd want at least to charge heavy where he doesn't block a lot to increase his hotness.
  • manveertherealmanveerthereal Member Posts: 1,363 ★★★
    No
    if you have human torch you know
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★
    Yes
    manveerthereal said:

    if you have human torch you know

    i dont so maybe i dont know but i think he is match up dependant
  • Will3808Will3808 Member Posts: 3,776 ★★★★★
    No
    I’ve used my 4* for a lot of fights while getting uncollected that weren’t mystic or energy damage. There are definitely other champions who would do some of these fights better but imo just don’t take him to incinerate immune fights and a few other niche fights that he doesn’t work for and you’ll be good.
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210 ★
    Yes
    Without prefight ability he is completely matchup dependent
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    edited October 2020
    Yes
    Will3808 said:

    I’ve used my 4* for a lot of fights while getting uncollected that weren’t mystic or energy damage. There are definitely other champions who would do some of these fights better but imo just don’t take him to incinerate immune fights and a few other niche fights that he doesn’t work for and you’ll be good.

    yeah you could use him but why-owner of a 5* torch
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian
    Yes
    I mean all champs are match up dependent otherwise we would just rank the champ that looks coolest and use them for everything.

    HT shines vs mystics/energy based matchups. In those he’s probably in your top 10, depending on the specifics. In general gameplay he’s good but not special. You Clare guaranteed to get at least one fight per quest that he will destroy because of his prefight. If there’s a champ I know I won’t solo I often prefight with torch to get a big chunk of damage down before finishing with someone else. He’s a good guaranteed 100k damage in a bad fight.
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