Quake > Ghost. An in-depth explanation thread.

Thanks_D19 · August 2020

Tbh the reason quake is best in the game is because she breaks the fundamental rules of the game and ghost doesn’t. 100% AAR combined with not having to hit the opponent and not having to bait specials just makes it that when you play her it is a different game, particularly if you play heavy only, with this play style quake can maintain 100% AAR whenever she performs an action which can get around even things designed to counter her like stubborn node caltrops or no retreat, the only things that can possibly stop her are actions that happen passively at the start of the fight or are spammed 24/7, heck even some things like domino’s passive AAR can’t stop her because if you buffer heavy at the start it will deactivate the AAR, she use breaks the game so she is the best by a mile without a question, if you don’t think so you probably can’t play quake

ẞlооd · August 2020

It usually comes down to bias from what I've seen. Just look at the likes and disagrees on every comment. Even comments that aren't taking a stance haha. Everybody wants their fav to win

Etjama · August 2020

I know I'ma get a lot of disagrees from the Ghost lovers out there, but you simply can not beat the combination of never touching the opponent, never giving them power and 100% AAR. You just can't. She can just do more overall.

Lioz178 · August 2020

Who ever says ghost is better just says that because they can't play quake properly or don't want to learn to play her

ChriissR · August 2020

Ghost is more sustainable. Unless you're a perfect Quake player, that parry damage and suicide damage in high level content will shred you. While with Ghost, you don't even have to be the best Ghost player to easily not take any damage. Mess up a phase? It's okay just keep dashing back until you phase again lol

If you are a perfect Quake player, then sure she's definitely great. But one mistake, and there goes your health.

the_eradicator · August 2020

Both good in their own desired match ups. No reason to compare.

Etjama · August 2020

Arsoz said:

Lioz178 said:
Who ever says ghost is better just says that because they can't play quake properly or don't want to learn to play her
No its just that ghost can finish fights faster and isnt boring to play like quake

Since when does more fun=best? And Domino with Rhulk and Massacre can finish fights faster than Doom. I don't see people saying she's the better champ. Who cares if Ghost can win fights faster when Quake can counter almost everything?

Masterpuff · August 2020

I use both religiously, and I would default to ghost over quake almost any match up, but there are things quake can do that ghost can’t. I’m gonna go with team Ghost on this one.

MCOCHazza · August 2020

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Kill_Grey4112 said:
*caltrops says hi
Yes, that may be a hindrance to the Quake dex method, but you can always do the Quake parry method.

Or heavy only

Chikel · August 2020

I don't really get why people say Ghost needs synergies to be at full potential. I think it's because they've been playing her with synergies for so long that they can't imagine any other way. I only have Hood, Antman and Wasp as 3* so unless the content is extra hard, I never bring them into fights. 99% of my Ghost gameplay have been without the synergies and I clear AQ, AW and eq with her regularly.
Ghost can be used for almost any fight without synergies except maybe the Hood synergies for DOT you can't shrug off. I did Act 5.1 before I knew the Hood synergy exists and it was with a 4* Ghost

KDSuperFlash10 · August 2020

Arsoz said:

Lioz178 said:
Who ever says ghost is better just says that because they can't play quake properly or don't want to learn to play her
No its just that ghost can finish fights faster and isnt boring to play like quake

Huh? What kinda argument is that? Quake being “boring to play” (which I disagree with completely) has nothing to do with her power.

KDSuperFlash10 · August 2020

Arsoz said:
No

Fantastic argument, I am speechless.

KDSuperFlash10 · August 2020

Arsoz said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Arsoz said:

Lioz178 said:
Who ever says ghost is better just says that because they can't play quake properly or don't want to learn to play her
No its just that ghost can finish fights faster and isnt boring to play like quake
Huh? What kinda argument is that? Quake being “boring to play” (which I disagree with completely) has nothing to do with her power.
Quake is the most boring champion to play in the game just hold heavy and dex or heavy parry bruh

your opinion is your opinion, don't spread it to everyone

SatsuiNoHadou · August 2020

Lvernon15 said:

Kill_Grey4112 said:
*caltrops says hi
Parry style quake also says hi

Munash in his deep deep voice says hi

Neotwism · August 2020

Using Quake to never touch an opponent is just a cheat code. Most players I know enjoy playing the game and not simply doing one move over and over and over. It gets boring. At least with Ghost and other champs you have other moves and can find unique ways around troublesome nodes. Quake is a great champ. I just don't play this game to do the same move with the same champ for every fight or to cheat my way past a difficult node. I'm sure kabam never intended to have a champ like Quake that can bypass everything. For me, she takes the fun out of the game.

Spaddicted · August 2020

Daphboy said:
Ghost would be better if they didn’t keep making champs that cause armor break from blinking. The only opponent that really hinders quake without nodes of some sort is Killmonger through his massive power gain.

Vision Aarkus is Quake true nemesis.

KDSuperFlash10 · August 2020

Spaddicted said:

Daphboy said:
Ghost would be better if they didn’t keep making champs that cause armor break from blinking. The only opponent that really hinders quake without nodes of some sort is Killmonger through his massive power gain.
Vision Aarkus is Quake true nemesis.

And Ghost cuz of the armor break

KDSuperFlash10 · August 2020

Daphboy said:
Ghost would be better if they didn’t keep making champs that cause armor break from blinking. The only opponent that really hinders quake without nodes of some sort is Killmonger through his massive power gain.

And passive power gain champs for Quake like Doctor Strange and Symbiote Supreme

Etjama · August 2020

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Daphboy said:
Ghost would be better if they didn’t keep making champs that cause armor break from blinking. The only opponent that really hinders quake without nodes of some sort is Killmonger through his massive power gain.
And passive power gain champs for Quake like Doctor Strange and Symbiote Supreme

Yeah, but you can still work around it. I use my Quake for Stranges and Havok's all the time.

Kill_Grey · August 2020

Have y'all forgotten how double-hit mediums ruin the rhythm of playing ghost or quake?

Polygon · August 2020

Kill_Grey4112 said:
Have y'all forgotten how double-hit mediums ruin the rhythm of playing ghost or quake?

Hence why we’re seeing more champs like that being released

Kill_Grey · August 2020

If literally every future champ has double hit mediums, armor break or coldsnap capabilities, easy to access DAAR (like agent venom, kinda), some sort of easy evade countering (like hit monkey), abilities against guaranteed crits, or phasing bypassing, then ghost and quake might actually fall out of the meta...
Considering how easy it is to actually implement, we might get ourselves a 6* Quake at some point.

Reference · August 2020

The champ discussion always miss an important point that player’s skill set count a lot of weight. Player dun know how to play Quake make her a tough rank up choice vs Ghost. I know some players also dunno how to max the damage output of Ghost but she is relatively easier to handle.

Quake > Ghost. An in-depth explanation thread.

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