So, for the next week bosses, can we make them a little bit harder and challenging?
Like, make Captain Marvel immune to the damage back from mystic champions. And IW IM should have some healing abilities, so that we need to outdamage it.
Just some ideas. Don't make them as easier as this silver surfer was
Obviously you have some of the few champion that actually work. Some people don’t have the luxury of having those champions ranked up.
Like you said, you could remove rewards, but that would just be kinda pointless. Just proving to yourself that you can do it. I know I can do it, but there is no way in hell im taking up a 4* to r4 or 5 just for the purpose of making myself feel better for to get a single 5*.
we have known for like a month it would require 4*s, not having 4* mats sitting around waiting to be used is not much of an excuse in my opinion.
They didn’t tell us that it would have to be a specific 4*. I have the needed ones, but I’m not ranking them for virtually no rewards.
It is not a specific 4*..... There is a large list of potential candidates.
Lets see, I don’t have any Coldsnap immunes ranked up, or any armor breakers ranked up.
there are more than that. The design of this is to make you think more, but hey. Corvas could also work provided you are good at evading while charges are down, and can use coldsnap to regain chip damage when they are up. That is just one outisde your box.
You’ve brought up one more. Yippee. And I don’t have them ranked up.
But why not rank someone up? We had variant 4 which required 4* champs, we will surely have more content which requires 4* champs.
Even failing that argument, and worse come worse it is only 8 t5b and 3 t4cc, all of which can be earned back in 2-3 weeks time and you have a permanently ranked champion in your roster for arena.
V4 is something you can do over a long period of time...This we have, what...2 weeks?
34 days, unless they remove it weekly which I have not heard them doing. So 5 weeks.
Yeah such a good idea. Lets spend our entire month trying to finish surfer off
you guys are like experts at moving the goal posts and strawmen arguments.
The fact is, its limited while the Variants aren't limited. I have once threwed all the variants except V1...I'll get to the exploration some day and I may rank some useless champs to do it. It will be worth it because the rewards are better, and I can do it at my leisure saving up ranking resources over time.
The strawman argument is that this is just like ranking for a variant which it clearly isn't...the rewards are garbage.
Tell that to the people without a 1* hulk trying to complete caustic temper path in variant 4. I never made the claim it is just like ranking up for a variant, but nice try. This is completely skippable content.
First...All content is completely skippable...Further, there is a source to acquire a 1* Hulk...A source that you can go to over time and keep trying to get him. Months...even years.
I fully agree this content could be bypassed and not done by everyone...but isn't that counter to what Kabam wants? I mean they want us to do it...to spend to do it in fact.
The fact is the variant is still limited, which you claimed it was not.... Again back to the moving the goal posts.
I honestly don't see what the issue is. The initial post even said it would be like the showdown with a little bit of a difference but that it would still be similar to it. This is designed exactly how it was said and is a good way to even practice for the showdown id you are wanting to take a crack at it.
Pray tell, why exactly would you need the show up difficulty as practice for showdown difficulty when you can just jump into showdown with your, oh I don’t know, unlimited amount of attempts? Just a thought
You got me there, I originally thought there would be a daily limit or something. There is not so that's my bad haha
I personally did not have any issue completing this content, but I am an endgame player. There is not a single chance that a mid-tier player will be able to compete in this event. Not very inclusive, if you ask me. I thought the road map specifically said that Kabam was getting away from "restrictive" challenges where just a handful of options work? What happened to that?
The coldsnap node made the fight restrictive. Seems like countless pages of feedback on June, with many refers on restrictive fights 6.2 Sinister type, didn’t had any effect on Kabam’s design. What’s the positive this coldsnap node added to the fight? The only thing that did, it was narrowing the options and created a cry out as an outcome. 😠
I personally did not have any issue completing this content, but I am an endgame player. There is not a single chance that a mid-tier player will be able to compete in this event. Not very inclusive, if you ask me. I thought the road map specifically said that Kabam was getting away from "restrictive" challenges where just a handful of options work? What happened to that?
The coldsnap node made the fight restrictive. Seems like countless pages of feedback on June, with many refers on restrictive fights 6.2 Sinister type, didn’t had any effect on Kabam’s design. What’s the positive this coldsnap node added to the fight? The only thing that did, it was narrowing the options and created a cry out as an outcome. 😠
it made you think about how to get around it. There are still tones of possibilities. more than the sinister. Do you want just straight up tank and spank and never any restrictions on champs at all?
I must admit reading these comments on waste of time is correct as yes only 1 fight and can be practise its just boring after a while where u just wanna quit the fight and not bother and how wording was its for all plays thought maybe same nodes but with Lower health for showup as the health for sure is the problem especially for 3k 5 star shards the gold i think is fair just not the shards
Like literally no one is happy with this "show up" bull. I really expected a difficulty that was tailored for everyone in this game, and if you couldn't, drop down a notch.
This is correct. This is a participation event for that want to be a part of the Summoner Showdown, but don't feel comfortable competing in the Showdown qualifiers. It's a taste of what our Competitors are facing and is not meant to be easy.
It is still meant to be a challenge and a test of skill.
Apparently, open to everyone does not mean everyone. #KabamLogic
I personally did not have any issue completing this content, but I am an endgame player. There is not a single chance that a mid-tier player will be able to compete in this event. Not very inclusive, if you ask me. I thought the road map specifically said that Kabam was getting away from "restrictive" challenges where just a handful of options work? What happened to that?
The coldsnap node made the fight restrictive. Seems like countless pages of feedback on June, with many refers on restrictive fights 6.2 Sinister type, didn’t had any effect on Kabam’s design. What’s the positive this coldsnap node added to the fight? The only thing that did, it was narrowing the options and created a cry out as an outcome. 😠
it made you think about how to get around it. There are still tones of possibilities. more than the sinister. Do you want just straight up tank and spank and never any restrictions on champs at all?
It was supposed to be a challenge of speed mostly not a roster one. Now it’s literally a Medusa/Colossus run. If you think these are more options than the Sinister fight, then I can’t say anything more 🤔
Seatin's video is a great summary of mine (and probably most) summoner's thoughts. I gave it a couple tries but I am not wasting resources on champions that have been banned from other content I work on for such garbage rewards... I get more gold and 5 star shards from a week of arena than those "EPIC REWARDS!!!!"
I personally did not have any issue completing this content, but I am an endgame player. There is not a single chance that a mid-tier player will be able to compete in this event. Not very inclusive, if you ask me. I thought the road map specifically said that Kabam was getting away from "restrictive" challenges where just a handful of options work? What happened to that?
The coldsnap node made the fight restrictive. Seems like countless pages of feedback on June, with many refers on restrictive fights 6.2 Sinister type, didn’t had any effect on Kabam’s design. What’s the positive this coldsnap node added to the fight? The only thing that did, it was narrowing the options and created a cry out as an outcome. 😠
it made you think about how to get around it. There are still tones of possibilities. more than the sinister. Do you want just straight up tank and spank and never any restrictions on champs at all?
It was supposed to be a challenge of speed mostly not a roster one. Now it’s literally a Medusa/Colossus run. If you think these are more options than the Sinister fight, then I can’t say anything more 🤔
you are artificially limiting it, that does not mean it is actually that limited.
This is correct. This is a participation event for that want to be a part of the Summoner Showdown, but don't feel comfortable competing in the Showdown qualifiers. It's a taste of what our Competitors are facing and is not meant to be easy.
It is still meant to be a challenge and a test of skill.
Apparently, open to everyone does not mean everyone. #KabamLogic
can you define what you think "open to all" means? This is "open to all"
Kabam, what made you think that 1.4 million health would be a fun fight? You already have your showdown difficulty! Why in the world is show up such a cash grab??
It's hardly a cash grab. I do think the 1.4 million is overkill but its not like it costs any energy to do.
and also you have to rank up champs you might not use otherwise. well I guess you could use r1 4* but ya know. and it's ranking up champs we probably wouldn't use in other places for 3k 5* shards
Sure. But all those resources aren't exactly the hardest to get. Its not like we're talking about T5B or T2A.
Is it annoying, sure. Is it a cash grab like KD called it. No.
Idk about you but I’m not overflowing with gold, iso, or basic stuff like t1 alpha to be able to rank any champ anytime
^That. With the upcoming Magneto buff, I'm collecting resources to rank-up my 5* (got him to R2 already), I might even bring him to R4 if he's as good as I've seen. I'm not going to waste that on R5 a 4* Colossus, which I already have at R3 as a 5*.
If you don't have the roster or skills to do it, then it's not for you
Huh? Use your common sense big guy. You don't have to defend Kabam about literally everything. This is not about having the skills or roster, it's about common sense. What kind of common sense goes into making a 1.4 million health Silver Surfer with insanely niche nodes (need a consistent armor breaker or coldsnap immune) AND you can only use 4 star champions. 4 STAR CHAMPIONS. The last time I've upgraded a 4 star champion was a long, long time ago. And all of this for 3k 5 star shards?! Pathetic.
It's optional. You don't have to do it. They made a challenging quest to make us think outside the box. It's free to try and you can attempt it as much as you want. I tried it and after a couple attempts, for sure not going to waste my time on it. They said all along that this was supposed to be a very hard challenge.
"Optional. You don't have to do it." So is the Whole game lol
@Lormif the definition of EVERYONE is: every person. How can everyone (each and every summoner) participate? And epic rewards are not 3k 5* shards!!!! You and the other kabam shills need to get a grasp on reality and accept that the event is disappointing.
And does everyone not have access to it? Who is not allowed to participate? Is there a level limit or a title limit I do not know about?
Ideas for IMIW: immune to armor break, armors are permanent, immune to Ability Accuracy Reduction, and freezer burn. There ya go a fun skill based fight!
@Lormif i gathered some 4* rank up gems and took ghost to rank 4 and got the solo. A r4 is totally viable, some parts of what I previously said stand corrected.
If you don't have the roster or skills to do it, then it's not for you
Huh? Use your common sense big guy. You don't have to defend Kabam about literally everything. This is not about having the skills or roster, it's about common sense. What kind of common sense goes into making a 1.4 million health Silver Surfer with insanely niche nodes (need a consistent armor breaker or coldsnap immune) AND you can only use 4 star champions. 4 STAR CHAMPIONS. The last time I've upgraded a 4 star champion was a long, long time ago. And all of this for 3k 5 star shards?! Pathetic.
It's optional. You don't have to do it. They made a challenging quest to make us think outside the box. It's free to try and you can attempt it as much as you want. I tried it and after a couple attempts, for sure not going to waste my time on it. They said all along that this was supposed to be a very hard challenge.
I tend to agree with this point of view.
I think it’s an endurance contest more than a skill test. I built a team around Colossus and kept Surfer stun locked for a couple of minutes, but it’s not that interesting to see how long you can keep up a MM-MLLLM-Sp1 sequence. I punted.
However, just because it’s not something that appeals to me doesn’t make it trash. I’m at a point in game where I tend to be exacting about how I wish to spend my time—this didn’t make the cut, but I know others who felt compelled to complete it and who are trying feverishly to lower their Solo Showdown times.
@Lormif the definition of EVERYONE is: every person. How can everyone (each and every summoner) participate? And epic rewards are not 3k 5* shards!!!! You and the other kabam shills need to get a grasp on reality and accept that the event is disappointing.
And does everyone not have access to it? Who is not allowed to participate? Is there a level limit or a title limit I do not know about?
More of YOU moving goal posts...you're worse than a damn politician. No one said some weren't allowed to participate. It is limited on TIME allotted to do it and availability of champs and rank up material to get said champs ranked to do it.
how did I move the goal post? The dude stated that the issue was the phrase "anyone can participate", literally. Just because that is not your argument, does not mean it is not his argument.
KT1 made a good point in his video. They could have kept the fight difficulty the same in relative terms but scaled it to 3* champs to be more inclusive. Obviously 3* more widely available and much less expensive to rank up.
So, for the next week bosses, can we make them a little bit harder and challenging?
Like, make Captain Marvel immune to the damage back from mystic champions. And IW IM should have some healing abilities, so that we need to outdamage it.
Just some ideas. Don't make them as easier as this silver surfer was
Obviously you have some of the few champion that actually work. Some people don’t have the luxury of having those champions ranked up.
Like you said, you could remove rewards, but that would just be kinda pointless. Just proving to yourself that you can do it. I know I can do it, but there is no way in hell im taking up a 4* to r4 or 5 just for the purpose of making myself feel better for to get a single 5*.
we have known for like a month it would require 4*s, not having 4* mats sitting around waiting to be used is not much of an excuse in my opinion.
They didn’t tell us that it would have to be a specific 4*. I have the needed ones, but I’m not ranking them for virtually no rewards.
It is not a specific 4*..... There is a large list of potential candidates.
Lets see, I don’t have any Coldsnap immunes ranked up, or any armor breakers ranked up.
there are more than that. The design of this is to make you think more, but hey. Corvas could also work provided you are good at evading while charges are down, and can use coldsnap to regain chip damage when they are up. That is just one outisde your box.
You’ve brought up one more. Yippee. And I don’t have them ranked up.
But why not rank someone up? We had variant 4 which required 4* champs, we will surely have more content which requires 4* champs.
Even failing that argument, and worse come worse it is only 8 t5b and 3 t4cc, all of which can be earned back in 2-3 weeks time and you have a permanently ranked champion in your roster for arena.
V4 is something you can do over a long period of time...This we have, what...2 weeks?
34 days, unless they remove it weekly which I have not heard them doing. So 5 weeks.
Yeah such a good idea. Lets spend our entire month trying to finish surfer off
you guys are like experts at moving the goal posts and strawmen arguments.
The fact is, its limited while the Variants aren't limited. I have once threwed all the variants except V1...I'll get to the exploration some day and I may rank some useless champs to do it. It will be worth it because the rewards are better, and I can do it at my leisure saving up ranking resources over time.
The strawman argument is that this is just like ranking for a variant which it clearly isn't...the rewards are garbage.
Tell that to the people without a 1* hulk trying to complete caustic temper path in variant 4. I never made the claim it is just like ranking up for a variant, but nice try. This is completely skippable content.
First...All content is completely skippable...Further, there is a source to acquire a 1* Hulk...A source that you can go to over time and keep trying to get him. Months...even years.
I fully agree this content could be bypassed and not done by everyone...but isn't that counter to what Kabam wants? I mean they want us to do it...to spend to do it in fact.
The fact is the variant is still limited, which you claimed it was not.... Again back to the moving the goal posts.
Variant is not limited...you have years to complete it. Has any of the variants disappeared from your account? Cause mine still has them all. The only moved goal post is your moving limited from time to availability of champs. Don't be a moron...
So limiting someone to star levels is not a limitation? There is a difference between not being limited and not being time limited, the latter not being what you said, but maybe what you meant. Be more clear in your rebuttals.
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Seems like countless pages of feedback on June, with many refers on restrictive fights 6.2 Sinister type, didn’t had any effect on Kabam’s design.
What’s the positive this coldsnap node added to the fight?
The only thing that did, it was narrowing the options and created a cry out as an outcome.
😠
If you think these are more options than the Sinister fight, then I can’t say anything more 🤔
When I originally saw the rewards for this (3000 5* shards) i expected something close but easier than RoL not this jacked up Silver Surfer.
Based on the time it takes to take down silver surfer using 4* champs i think the rewards should be dramatically increased
I think it’s an endurance contest more than a skill test. I built a team around Colossus and kept Surfer stun locked for a couple of minutes, but it’s not that interesting to see how long you can keep up a MM-MLLLM-Sp1 sequence. I punted.
However, just because it’s not something that appeals to me doesn’t make it trash. I’m at a point in game where I tend to be exacting about how I wish to spend my time—this didn’t make the cut, but I know others who felt compelled to complete it and who are trying feverishly to lower their Solo Showdown times.
Dr. Zola
Obviously 3* more widely available and much less expensive to rank up.