Oh so sad lol looters mentality got caught being greedy I'm glad y'all got banned. Hope you are locked out the rest the x-men treasure event too. Wish they could lock you out of the cyber weekend too. Just like the credit card scammers I feel zero sympathy for anyone who ran this event more than twice.
I wasn’t banned and only a couple members of the alliance were. But Kabam should remember that people choose to play. Treat them poorly, and they will leave. It’s already a total pain to have to manage 30 people for AW / AQ and this impacts a lot of people beyond the ones who went through more than 3 times. There are issues and bugs EVERY month, you (Kabam) screwed up, and now you are screwing over a bunch of people who didn’t mess up during the middle of AW season. If there weren’t frequent crashes, bugs all the time, and stacked odds for good champs, it would be different. Don’t be surprised when folks move on.
I don't see why it's shady. the event dropped yesterday and the bug was found yesterday. a day for them to hand out punishment and fix the event seems normal
This isn’t even the first time kabam have banned people for exploiting things... why you all acting so surprised.
Because it's inconsistent. If you want to use banning as a method of punishment for all violations of the TOS, then you can't excuse smaller instances of exploiting.
This a complete and totally intellectually dishonest argument.
force closes aren't punished like this is because it's because it's gaining items and unlevelling the playing field. Saving 1 revive at the cost of half your health isn't comparable to gaining several AGs or thousands of 6* shards. I know that you know this.
We have real world examples as we, such as a misdemeanors and felonys, and different punishments even within the subgroups.
Even if we go down your road, it's well within Kabams rights to enforce the TOS as it sees fit.
Force closing doesn't always take half your health. Even if it's minor, it's still a TOS violation.
I'm not disagreeing in that quitting out is on the same level as farming. However, both are still violations and should be treated as such.
I recognize that I have no say in how Kabam treated its violations, but all I can say is that the way they're doing things is messy.
My solution? Punish each and every instance of bug exploits, whether it be force-quitting, farming, character bug exploits, etc. Why should the smaller violations go unpunished?
This isn’t even the first time kabam have banned people for exploiting things... why you all acting so surprised.
Because it’s the first time they’ve banned for minor exploits
This wasn't a minor exploit. It clearly had the theoretical potential to generate massive rewards. However, when a game operator generates bans for an exploit that is itself potentially huge, their net often catches players who exploited the bug but didn't exploit it to maximum effect. But that doesn't make the exploit a minor exploit. That is still a major exploit, just one that wasn't fully leveraged.
I do have *some* sympathy for players who clearly leveraged the exploit but didn't do so to a high degree. But that's a risk associated with going anywhere near an exploit. You can't assume the punishment will always be proportionately calculated to be "fair" to everyone. That's why they call them ban hammers. They aren't surgical instruments. And they aren't intended to just restore the correct balance of things: they are explicitly intended to be punitive. They are supposed to appear disproportional, to have a future deterrent effect. If punishment is just "reasonable" people may start to think it is a reasonable risk to take. We want the risk to appear to be never worth taking.
So we know people who exploited that island are getting banned and items removed... What happens to the points they put on events?.. are they going to be withdrawn?..
Remember that boss rush event you could run twice for an extra 5* champ? No one was banned or punished for that, just sayin. Inconsistent responses from kabam piss everyone off. Banning a week for a in-game bug (kabams fault, not an external exploit) is not a good business decision. They should own their mistake, do better testing before releasing to public, and remove the extra resources people farmed. Do better next time kabam.
Super Bad Move i totally disagree even if i didn't exploit the bug .. you cannot punish someone for your mistakes
why didn't the team try the event before throwing it to us ..
since the fault is yours you should only remove the rewards gained banning peoples for this is not a good strategie and unfair
They probably did test it one the beta server. They most likely had a problem once they brought it over due to it being behind a patch or something. The players that got banned deserved what they got, next time you play a different READ THE TERMS OF SERVICE.
And to be fair I wanted to do the exploit, but I didn't because it was unfair to others and would break TOS. Read DNA3000's point.
It's not ridiculous it's hilarious. Anyone saying they didn't realize what they were doing is absolutely full of it
Exactly. Doing it once after the initial run? Sure, innocent mistake. Going back in again after seeing that you got rewards a 2nd time? They knew what they were doing.
This isn’t even the first time kabam have banned people for exploiting things... why you all acting so surprised.
Because it’s the first time they’ve banned for minor exploits
This wasn't a minor exploit. It clearly had the theoretical potential to generate massive rewards. However, when a game operator generates bans for an exploit that is itself potentially huge, their net often catches players who exploited the bug but didn't exploit it to maximum effect. But that doesn't make the exploit a minor exploit. That is still a major exploit, just one that wasn't fully leveraged.
I do have *some* sympathy for players who clearly leveraged the exploit but didn't do so to a high degree. But that's a risk associated with going anywhere near an exploit. You can't assume the punishment will always be proportionately calculated to be "fair" to everyone. That's why they call them ban hammers. They aren't surgical instruments. And they aren't intended to just restore the correct balance of things: they are explicitly intended to be punitive. They are supposed to appear disproportional, to have a future deterrent effect. If punishment is just "reasonable" people may start to think it is a reasonable risk to take. We want the risk to appear to be never worth taking.
This isn’t even the first time kabam have banned people for exploiting things... why you all acting so surprised.
Because it's inconsistent. If you want to use banning as a method of punishment for all violations of the TOS, then you can't excuse smaller instances of exploiting.
This a complete and totally intellectually dishonest argument.
force closes aren't punished like this is because it's because it's gaining items and unlevelling the playing field. Saving 1 revive at the cost of half your health isn't comparable to gaining several AGs or thousands of 6* shards. I know that you know this.
We have real world examples as we, such as a misdemeanors and felonys, and different punishments even within the subgroups.
Even if we go down your road, it's well within Kabams rights to enforce the TOS as it sees fit.
Force closing doesn't always take half your health. Even if it's minor, it's still a TOS violation.
I'm not disagreeing in that quitting out is on the same level as farming. However, both are still violations and should be treated as such.
I recognize that I have no say in how Kabam treated its violations, but all I can say is that the way they're doing things is messy.
My solution? Punish each and every instance of bug exploits, whether it be force-quitting, farming, character bug exploits, etc. Why should the smaller violations go unpunished?
If we don't put jaywalkers in jail, we're hypocrites for putting murderers in jail, is your argument? That in your perfect world there's no room for judgment or discretion or practical considerations? Its just legal, or illegal, and nothing in between?
That's the chance people take when they knowingly take advantage of something. There's usually a cocky assumption that they'll get away with it, either because it's on Kabam's end, or because they used the Resources quickly, or what have you. Truth be told, I can only really empathize with anyone who didn't realize what they were doing, and only the genuine cases. When we make poor choices, the consequences can accumulate and we don't get to choose our consequences. Whether it's War, or the Arena, or whatever else it is. Doing the wrong thing is always taking a chance. I get that it sucks to miss out on things, but there's not much to say when people bring it on themselves.
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I'm not disagreeing in that quitting out is on the same level as farming. However, both are still violations and should be treated as such.
I recognize that I have no say in how Kabam treated its violations, but all I can say is that the way they're doing things is messy.
My solution? Punish each and every instance of bug exploits, whether it be force-quitting, farming, character bug exploits, etc. Why should the smaller violations go unpunished?
I do have *some* sympathy for players who clearly leveraged the exploit but didn't do so to a high degree. But that's a risk associated with going anywhere near an exploit. You can't assume the punishment will always be proportionately calculated to be "fair" to everyone. That's why they call them ban hammers. They aren't surgical instruments. And they aren't intended to just restore the correct balance of things: they are explicitly intended to be punitive. They are supposed to appear disproportional, to have a future deterrent effect. If punishment is just "reasonable" people may start to think it is a reasonable risk to take. We want the risk to appear to be never worth taking.
And to be fair I wanted to do the exploit, but I didn't because it was unfair to others and would break TOS. Read DNA3000's point.