Throne Breaker Title Discussion [Merged Threads]

What are your thoughts? I have mixed feelings on this.

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I have to agree, the requirement to have an R3 6* is a bit crazy. You should just change it to having one fully formed T5cc or one R3 6*. Having the title rely on two RNG components is a bit much. You need some decent luck to pull a worthwhile 6* and then you need luck to pull the right class of T5cc.

The only way to keep it fair and keep the R3 requirement is to release more T5cc selectors with content.

GroundedWisdom

This is a choice that you have to make. You are under no pressure to choose one of those Champions if you don't want to. This title is not going anywhere. As T5CC become more common, you'll have more choices, but at this time, this is the way that we have decided to separate the next tier in a way that takes into account both your progression in-game, and your roster progression.
So now, even if we all have cleared the same content, but even if our roster is advanced enough, but our luck for T5cc is different, only others will get tje title? tbis is a plain slap in the face

Not cool Kabam! Not cool at all...

If you have no R3s, then your Roster isn't advanced enough for the next marker. Simple as that. No one says you have to Rank whatever, but if your only goal is the Title, then you will have to. This isn't an absolute requirement. A few Units off the Cavs, and some new Login Crystals aren't going to make that much of a difference, and it's hardly a slap in the face to set the bar.

Kabam Miike

People are overreacting. Chances that you've explored act 6 and done a path in Abyss and lack a r3 are low.
They're nerfing act 6 and book 2 is coming out with new avenues for t5cc
There's 2 10% from cavalier monthly as well as things like side events and one off events
There's no rush to get it day one as there's no new calendar or anything crazy that you're missing out on

Doesn't matter if you have all the T5CC in the game when you don't have a 6* worthy of R3 that would benefit your roster.

With the increase to the accessibility of both T5CC and 6-Star Shards, Summoners are getting more 6 Stars than ever before, and more T5CC fragments (even though those are a rare resource still!). Cavalier difficulty is meant to help you grow your Rosters to a place where you'll be able to take this next step.

XSquad

To be really clear here (and let the dislikes pour in), this is meant to be a differentiating factor between players in the Cavalier progression level, and those that are far advanced from there.

As you guys are well aware, there is a huge breadth of players that have hit Cavalier status, from those that have beaten Act 6 Chapter 1 just once, to those that have explored Abyss of Legends, and take on the Grandmaster and Champion bosses daily just for fun.

It becomes extremely difficult for us to make content that targets everybody in that group when one end is so far ahead of the other. As we moved away from making Act content our measuring stick for Summoner Roster and Skill Progression, we had to move to other measurements. Having 1x Rank 3 6-Star is quite low on the scale of differentiation since many of these Summoners have quite a lot more.

If you haven't hit that point yet, that's okay. There's still a lot for you to benefit from as a Cavalier, and those benefits will help you as you progress and grow towards the next level.

I think this is great. People are upset that they missed the cut. If everyone was eligible it wouldn't make sense to do this. The r3 thing is tough. Maybe 100% exploration or completion & a r3 could be the requirement. This way those that explored without getting or being able to r3 would still qualify.

rischio

Guys it's not LUCK, it is TIME. I have around 40 pulls at 6 stars and got ONE worthy candidate for R3. I have duped beast, triple cyclops, duped ultron, etc.
After 2 years from my first pull, got my dupe on void a month ago.
You need to have MANY pulls to get the sweet rare Champs, even more so if you want them duped.

It's called PROGRESSION because it is meant to differentiate long time players from newbies.

Chill, play, grow, pull Champs and you will get there.

GG folks

H3t3r

This is a choice that you have to make. You are under no pressure to choose one of those Champions if you don't want to. This title is not going anywhere. As T5CC become more common, you'll have more choices, but at this time, this is the way that we have decided to separate the next tier in a way that takes into account both your progression in-game, and your roster progression.
So now, even if we all have cleared the same content, but even if our roster is advanced enough, but our luck for T5cc is different, only others will get tje title? tbis is a plain slap in the face

Not cool Kabam! Not cool at all...
If you have no R3s, then your Roster isn't advanced enough for the next marker. Simple as that. No one says you have to Rank whatever, but if your only goal is the Title, then you will have to. This isn't an absolute requirement. A few Units off the Cavs, and some new Login Crystals aren't going to make that much of a difference, and it's hardly a slap in the face to set the bar.

Ahh yes lets restrict progression title behind RNG

Madman_marvin

To be really clear here (and let the dislikes pour in), this is meant to be a differentiating factor between players in the Cavalier progression level, and those that are far advanced from there.

As you guys are well aware, there is a huge breadth of players that have hit Cavalier status, from those that have beaten Act 6 Chapter 1 just once, to those that have explored Abyss of Legends, and take on the Grandmaster and Champion bosses daily just for fun.

It becomes extremely difficult for us to make content that targets everybody in that group when one end is so far ahead of the other. As we moved away from making Act content our measuring stick for Summoner Roster and Skill Progression, we had to move to other measurements. Having 1x Rank 3 6-Star is quite low on the scale of differentiation since many of these Summoners have quite a lot more.

If you haven't hit that point yet, that's okay. There's still a lot for you to benefit from as a Cavalier, and those benefits will help you as you progress and grow towards the next level.

I’ve completed Act 6. I can 100% Cavalier difficulty. I’m no where near a R3 because RNG won’t go my way. If you plan on making t5cc truly available to where I don’t have to 100% Act or complete an AOL path just to know you’ll have a full one, then this is ok. However if you’re just going to keep giving 20% a month and in that 20% you’re giving 2% crystals that FURTHER make it an RNG dependent title, then it’s a load of BS.

Kappa2g

I'm pretty sure you guys have the statistics, but how many players actually had a R3 6 star when they completed their first run of 6.4?
The two milestone requirements simply do not match up or have any close relationship between them.

SwarmOfRavens

People are overreacting. Chances that you've explored act 6 and done a path in Abyss and lack a r3 are low.
They're nerfing act 6 and book 2 is coming out with new avenues for t5cc
There's 2 10% from cavalier monthly as well as things like side events and one off events
There's no rush to get it day one as there's no new calendar or anything crazy that you're missing out on

Doesn't matter if you have all the T5CC in the game when you don't have a 6* worthy of R3 that would benefit your roster.

If you've progressed that far and don't have any r3 worthy champs you've been screwed by rng.
Which is nothing new to this game

Deacon

carry on nothing to see here lol (answered)

gohard123

People are overreacting. Chances that you've explored act 6 and done a path in Abyss and lack a r3 are low.
They're nerfing act 6 and book 2 is coming out with new avenues for t5cc
There's 2 10% from cavalier monthly as well as things like side events and one off events
There's no rush to get it day one as there's no new calendar or anything crazy that you're missing out on

So not only do I have to have good RNG for champs to complete content, I have to have good RNG to get the t5cc I need.

Personally I have tried for Dr Doom since last year.

345k shards on featured crystals and 300k shards on dual crystals. Not counting the normal 5 crystals in between and the units I spent on doom cavs. Still no 5* doom

XSquad

Just to get more disagrees, but I think the requirement should be Act 6 100%

Liss_Bliss_

Wait.

So will this new title (with the caveat of having 1 r3 6*) be the measuring point on offers now?

Not that I care one way or the other.

I just want to know what stuff I’ll be missing out on for the next 4 years. Events, rewards, offers?

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GroundedWisdom

This is a choice that you have to make. You are under no pressure to choose one of those Champions if you don't want to. This title is not going anywhere. As T5CC become more common, you'll have more choices, but at this time, this is the way that we have decided to separate the next tier in a way that takes into account both your progression in-game, and your roster progression.
So now, even if we all have cleared the same content, but even if our roster is advanced enough, but our luck for T5cc is different, only others will get tje title? tbis is a plain slap in the face

Not cool Kabam! Not cool at all...
If you have no R3s, then your Roster isn't advanced enough for the next marker. Simple as that. No one says you have to Rank whatever, but if your only goal is the Title, then you will have to. This isn't an absolute requirement. A few Units off the Cavs, and some new Login Crystals aren't going to make that much of a difference, and it's hardly a slap in the face to set the bar.
Ahh yes lets restrict progression title behind RNG

Hasn't it always been? Not sure what content you've been playing, but good luck beating Acts 5 and 6 with Groot.

rischio

I’ve completed Act 6. I can 100% Cavalier difficulty. I’m no where near a R3 because RNG won’t go my way. If you plan on making t5cc truly available to where I don’t have to 100% Act or complete an AOL path just to know you’ll have a full one, then this is ok. However if you’re just going to keep giving 20% a month and in that 20% you’re giving 2% crystals that FURTHER make it an RNG dependent title, then it’s a load of BS.

Clear abyss, do 100% act6, AQ7 with epic nodes, prove that you are worthy by earning the difficult prizes instead of sitting and waiting for them to drop on you

MorbidCuriosity

The Rank 3 6-star requirement is just plain silly... how can you hold this as a requirement for the Title when T5CC acquisition is based solely on R&G??? I completed act 6 a while back & I do have Rank 3 worthy 6-star champs in my roster (Cap IW, CMM, Corvus, Cull, et al.) but my T5CC openings have been almost uniformly distributed between each of the 6 classes. If this Rank up is a Title requirement, there should be more options for the player to select the T5CC that's needed to rank up their desired champ

pseudosane

To be really clear here (and let the dislikes pour in), this is meant to be a differentiating factor between players in the Cavalier progression level, and those that are far advanced from there.

As you guys are well aware, there is a huge breadth of players that have hit Cavalier status, from those that have beaten Act 6 Chapter 1 just once, to those that have explored Abyss of Legends, and take on the Grandmaster and Champion bosses daily just for fun.

It becomes extremely difficult for us to make content that targets everybody in that group when one end is so far ahead of the other. As we moved away from making Act content our measuring stick for Summoner Roster and Skill Progression, we had to move to other measurements. Having 1x Rank 3 6-Star is quite low on the scale of differentiation since many of these Summoners have quite a lot more.

If you haven't hit that point yet, that's okay. There's still a lot for you to benefit from as a Cavalier, and those benefits will help you as you progress and grow towards the next level.

Well, i do have an r3, i qualify for all your requirements. I would get the title. But your justification is an absolute joke. My r3 domino, i have NEVER EVER used her in my exploration of abyss, nor in act6. The r3 gate is absolute garbage. Gate it to completion of act6, that is how you differentiate. An r3 is NOT a differentiator. Poor try to give a satisfactory reason.

rischio

I'm pretty sure you guys have the statistics, but how many players actually had a R3 6 star when they completed their first run of 6.4?
The two milestone requirements simply do not match up or have any close relationship between them.

The two requirements are in fact two, not one.

RogerRabs

The 6R3 is kind of an annoying requirement tbh. I've got T5CC but no 6 star champion that would actually help my account at the moment. This would force me to rank an unduped OR or Nick Fury (have both at 5/65 Sig 200).

Shouldn't penalize people for bad 6 star luck.

Woody_feder

Until they add more t5cc chances in game I feel this title is a complete money grab joke! None of the other titles include a champion rank requirement! I did the content I should get the title don’t hold me to how I build my account! Especially if it’s near to impossible to get the resources if your not in a top tier alliance and or whale...

Epistriatus

When 5.2.6 was released & I first saw the Collector fight on youtube I thought to myself “nope, not gonna happen, not for a very long time, I’ll do my labyrinth completion run 1st.”.................then the “uncollected” title was announced. Ok sigh....have to go for it now. So I did it & got the uncollected title.

A couple of years later act 6 was announced. With 6.1 came the cavalier title. There was no Collector fight, in terms of bs-fight. There was however a Crossbones in 6.1.5
That fight caused a bit of a delay for me to get the cavalier title. Had to find out which champ I could use, ended up using rank 4 GR and fate sealing my way through the fight (+ the needed revives since the fate seal would only work per 25% stage).

Those titles I could get through clearing story content. My level of skill determined how many revives/units I had to use to get through said content.

By adding the requirement of having a rank 3 6* for the next progression title changes that. The need to have some sort of skill is thrown out the window & replaced by how many units some1 wants to spend to finally get blessed by RNG-esus...........sigh 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

KDSuperFlash10

So I don’t just have the resources for a rank 3 and have act 6 100%.... I have 2 SCIENCE T5CC..... given that I have no science I feel comfortable ranking as a 6*, I think it is a very bad choice to base a progression title on an RNG rank up material.
This is a choice that you have to make. You are under no pressure to choose one of those Champions if you don't want to. This title is not going anywhere. As T5CC become more common, you'll have more choices, but at this time, this is the way that we have decided to separate the next tier in a way that takes into account both your progression in-game, and your roster progression.

"T5CC become more common" if you're willing to whip out a couple hundred bucks every few weeks on T5CC offers. 😂😂 This is a joke, it should've just been a restriction of 8 r5 5 stars or something, a r3 6 star is REALLY pushing it.

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solmyrair

I’m quite happy with that. Yes, will take for me few months but still, fair enough.

H3t3r

This is a choice that you have to make. You are under no pressure to choose one of those Champions if you don't want to. This title is not going anywhere. As T5CC become more common, you'll have more choices, but at this time, this is the way that we have decided to separate the next tier in a way that takes into account both your progression in-game, and your roster progression.
So now, even if we all have cleared the same content, but even if our roster is advanced enough, but our luck for T5cc is different, only others will get tje title? tbis is a plain slap in the face

Not cool Kabam! Not cool at all...
If you have no R3s, then your Roster isn't advanced enough for the next marker. Simple as that. No one says you have to Rank whatever, but if your only goal is the Title, then you will have to. This isn't an absolute requirement. A few Units off the Cavs, and some new Login Crystals aren't going to make that much of a difference, and it's hardly a slap in the face to set the bar.
Ahh yes lets restrict progression title behind RNG
Hasn't it always been? Not sure what content you've been playing, but good luck beating Acts 5 and 6 with Groot.

Except with this you need to get lucky with not only a champ bus also a catalyst. And the catalyst even more so then the champ.

Jbwilde

@Kabam Miike im still a bit unclear if I have to “complete” 6.4 or 100% explore act 6 like I would’ve for original Thorne breaker title.

GroundedWisdom

@Kabam Miike im still a bit unclear if I have to “complete” 6.4 or all of act 6 or 100% explore act 6 like I would’ve for original Thorne breaker title.

No, complete it. The old Title will become Breaker of Thrones.

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Deacon

i suppose i'm in the minority that agrees with Kabam Mike ... it's not RNG. it's a choice. do you have 6* that you could take to R3. most people, YES. is it the one you want to take to R3? probalby not. maybe. who knows but the fact remains you have one that you could if the title is that important to you.

the requirement didn't say a 6* Rank 3 Titan Champ. it just said a 6* Rank 3 champ. pick one. any one. BUT i totally get it when resources are scarce. just saying ... the title CAN be achieved with any Rank 3 champ.