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Venom hashtag and Variant 1 - way too hard for 2020

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  • H_B0MBH_B0MB Member Posts: 52
    V1 is definitely the most difficult/frustrating/annoying of them all. Depending on your progression it might not be necessary to do. Back when it was somewhat new it was worth the effort just for the r5 gem. However r5 rss are much easier to come by nowadays. I got exploration of it done well after exploring v2 & v3 and only because I pulled Thing to make the last boss easier.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,961 ★★★★★

    Monk1 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.

    Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
    Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.
    You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

    V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs
    For a F2P player like me, who does not spend all his nights grinding the arena - Act 6.4 is kind of a big deal. I don't want you, guys to agree with me. All i'm saying is that V1 is not worth the effort in 2020, therefore it needs some changes.
    what’s your roster look like
  • KostaaechuiekKostaaechuiek Member Posts: 14

    Monk1 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.

    Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
    Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.
    You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

    V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs
    For a F2P player like me, who does not spend all his nights grinding the arena - Act 6.4 is kind of a big deal. I don't want you, guys to agree with me. All i'm saying is that V1 is not worth the effort in 2020, therefore it needs some changes.
    what’s your roster look like
    My roster is just fine - 15 rank 5 5*'s and 6* CG rank 2
  • KostaaechuiekKostaaechuiek Member Posts: 14
    Mauled said:

    Monk1 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.

    Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
    Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.
    You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

    V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs
    For a F2P player like me, who does not spend all his nights grinding the arena - Act 6.4 is kind of a big deal. I don't want you, guys to agree with me. All i'm saying is that V1 is not worth the effort in 2020, therefore it needs some changes.
    So because you can’t steamroll it with your current roster it needs nerfing? Objectively speaking, for 9 quests you’re getting a huge amount of resources, sure there’s a fair chunk of BS in V1 but compared to 6.4 there’s not a huge difference tbh. Both have niche requirements.
    I haven't said that V1 needs nerf, just because i can't clear it. Quite the contrary - i've completed it right after the completion of 6.3 and i'm sorry, but i've used the same amount of items for both. All i'm saying is that V1 is way too hard for the rank 4; rank 5 gem
  • KostaaechuiekKostaaechuiek Member Posts: 14
    IPO, Variants should be contents that players should complete/ explore, to help them to get resources or champs so they can complete/ explore through story quests.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    edited September 2020

    IPO, Variants should be contents that players should complete/ explore, to help them to get resources or champs so they can complete/ explore through story quests.

    wait what does ipo mean here? I've seen you use it but I'm confused lol
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,489 Guardian

    IPO, Variants should be contents that players should complete/ explore, to help them to get resources or champs so they can complete/ explore through story quests.

    wait what does ipo mean here? I've seen you use it but I'm confused lol
    I think it is "in personal opinion "?
  • H_B0MBH_B0MB Member Posts: 52
    Imagine how hard it was a couple years ago with less champs. Lol. Back then chapter 2 was damn near impossible without Magik. Shoot it still might be. Doom could be a great alternative though.
  • Rayaan_2000Rayaan_2000 Member Posts: 673 ★★★

    Haji_Saab said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Play the new variant to find out why Venom is a villian in the game.

    I have played Variant 5 and sorry, but i can't see your point
    Did you read the dialogue? or skipped it?
    I’d say 90% of the playerbase doesn’t read the dialogue.
    So am I alone in actually looking forward to every month's EQ just to read the dialogues and follow the story arc of the EQ and story quests
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  • benshbbenshb Member Posts: 852 ★★★★
    If you don't have the right champs then yes V1 is hard. But if you have the champs, it's real fun. I had a blast roaming through ch3 with r4 thing.
  • H_B0MBH_B0MB Member Posts: 52
    benshb said:

    If you don't have the right champs then yes V1 is hard. But if you have the champs, it's real fun. I had a blast roaming through ch3 with r4 thing.

    Real fun is an interesting way of putting it. Lol. I’d go with moderately satisfying.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,961 ★★★★★

    Haji_Saab said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    Play the new variant to find out why Venom is a villian in the game.

    I have played Variant 5 and sorry, but i can't see your point
    Did you read the dialogue? or skipped it?
    I’d say 90% of the playerbase doesn’t read the dialogue.
    So am I alone in actually looking forward to every month's EQ just to read the dialogues and follow the story arc of the EQ and story quests
    Yo same! Can’t wait for them to continue the Guillotine storyline
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,961 ★★★★★

    Monk1 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.

    Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
    Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.
    You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

    V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs
    For a F2P player like me, who does not spend all his nights grinding the arena - Act 6.4 is kind of a big deal. I don't want you, guys to agree with me. All i'm saying is that V1 is not worth the effort in 2020, therefore it needs some changes.
    what’s your roster look like
    My roster is just fine - 15 rank 5 5*'s and 6* CG rank 2
    Can I see? Please?
  • KostaaechuiekKostaaechuiek Member Posts: 14

    Monk1 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.

    Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
    Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.
    You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

    V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs
    For a F2P player like me, who does not spend all his nights grinding the arena - Act 6.4 is kind of a big deal. I don't want you, guys to agree with me. All i'm saying is that V1 is not worth the effort in 2020, therefore it needs some changes.
    what’s your roster look like
    My roster is just fine - 15 rank 5 5*'s and 6* CG rank 2
    Can I see? Please?
    Beardo, HT, Magik, Doom, SS, NF, Aegon, Warlock, SL, Ghost, Magnito, AA, Domino, Cap Marvel, Hype and i'm about to rank 5 Proff X soon
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    You can’t use act 6 as a measure of skill or roster anymore, it’s a joke now.
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  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★

    You can’t use act 6 as a measure of skill or roster anymore, it’s a joke now.

    *Says the person with a team of rank 3 6*s; probably 50+ rank 5 5*s and rank 2 6*s; belonging to a top 5 alliance*
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Smh
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  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    You can’t use act 6 as a measure of skill or roster anymore, it’s a joke now.

    *Says the person with a team of rank 3 6*s; probably 50+ rank 5 5*s and rank 2 6*s; belonging to a top 5 alliance*
    That has what to do with the nerfs.....?
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  • Monk1Monk1 Member Posts: 762 ★★★★

    Monk1 said:

    Haji_Saab said:

    And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.

    Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
    Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.
    You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

    V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs
    For a F2P player like me, who does not spend all his nights grinding the arena - Act 6.4 is kind of a big deal. I don't want you, guys to agree with me. All i'm saying is that V1 is not worth the effort in 2020, therefore it needs some changes.
    I am also free to play.. and finished act 6 long before they made it beyond easy.

    We should not just nerf content cause some find it too hard. It’s permanent so just don’t do it
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian

    IPO, Variants should be contents that players should complete/ explore, to help them to get resources or champs so they can complete/ explore through story quests.

    Variant was designed to be endgame content for players who had explored everything before Act 6 was released and to keep them busy while Act 6 was being developed. The only reason that V2-4 fit in before in most players’ logical progression curve is because the roster requirements were looser than some of the bad fights in Act 6 like Sinister/Mordo/Champion which at the time of release had a very limited selection of counters, if any.

    This is also why V5 offers T5CC, it’s meant to be a fun piece of content aimed at Act 6 completionists.
  • Rayaan_2000Rayaan_2000 Member Posts: 673 ★★★

    You can’t use act 6 as a measure of skill or roster anymore, it’s a joke now.

    No offense but just because it is easy for you, it's not easy for all of us, and if act 6 is not a measure of skill and roster, I don't know what can be because the act 7 beta isn't that hard either, in fact, from all the YouTube vids I've seen, it is actually a bit like cavalier difficulty with attacker friendly nodes so you guys will stroll through it.

    I assume you think that only people who 100% abyss are worthy and "skilled" well if so then thronebreaker should have just been gated to summoners who 100% abyss so that their needs can be catered to accordingly
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★

    You can’t use act 6 as a measure of skill or roster anymore, it’s a joke now.

    No offense but just because it is easy for you, it's not easy for all of us, and if act 6 is not a measure of skill and roster, I don't know what can be because the act 7 beta isn't that hard either, in fact, from all the YouTube vids I've seen, it is actually a bit like cavalier difficulty with attacker friendly nodes so you guys will stroll through it.

    I assume you think that only people who 100% abyss are worthy and "skilled" well if so then thronebreaker should have just been gated to summoners who 100% abyss so that their needs can be catered to accordingly
    Ya kabam said they are going away from making story content challenging, they said it themselves. Story content is going to be just simple and easy for everyone to get through, similar to cav difficultly. Thronebreaker isn’t having a new difficulty so it’s not really doing anything in terms of making challenging content.
  • Rayaan_2000Rayaan_2000 Member Posts: 673 ★★★

    You can’t use act 6 as a measure of skill or roster anymore, it’s a joke now.

    No offense but just because it is easy for you, it's not easy for all of us, and if act 6 is not a measure of skill and roster, I don't know what can be because the act 7 beta isn't that hard either, in fact, from all the YouTube vids I've seen, it is actually a bit like cavalier difficulty with attacker friendly nodes so you guys will stroll through it.

    I assume you think that only people who 100% abyss are worthy and "skilled" well if so then thronebreaker should have just been gated to summoners who 100% abyss so that their needs can be catered to accordingly
    Ya kabam said they are going away from making story content challenging, they said it themselves. Story content is going to be just simple and easy for everyone to get through, similar to cav difficultly. Thronebreaker isn’t having a new difficulty so it’s not really doing anything in terms of making challenging content.
    This gives me all the motivation in the world to not rush through content so that I can continue to enjoy the game the same way I am doing now, I do hope that you guys get the challenging content you're looking for soon, until then, keep the war vids coming, it's great fun to watch master tier wars 🙂🙂
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★

    You can’t use act 6 as a measure of skill or roster anymore, it’s a joke now.

    No offense but just because it is easy for you, it's not easy for all of us, and if act 6 is not a measure of skill and roster, I don't know what can be because the act 7 beta isn't that hard either, in fact, from all the YouTube vids I've seen, it is actually a bit like cavalier difficulty with attacker friendly nodes so you guys will stroll through it.

    I assume you think that only people who 100% abyss are worthy and "skilled" well if so then thronebreaker should have just been gated to summoners who 100% abyss so that their needs can be catered to accordingly
    Ya kabam said they are going away from making story content challenging, they said it themselves. Story content is going to be just simple and easy for everyone to get through, similar to cav difficultly. Thronebreaker isn’t having a new difficulty so it’s not really doing anything in terms of making challenging content.
    This gives me all the motivation in the world to not rush through content so that I can continue to enjoy the game the same way I am doing now, I do hope that you guys get the challenging content you're looking for soon, until then, keep the war vids coming, it's great fun to watch master tier wars 🙂🙂
    Honestly, they have nerfed war so much also that i've lost interest in making the videos. Been busier to, but the nerf is the biggest factor.
  • GAMEOVERJamesGAMEOVERJames Member Posts: 907 ★★★
    Variant 1 is too difficult comparing with other Variants?
    Yes, no doubt.

    Should Variant 1 be nerfed?
    No, I don’t think so.

    Should the rewards in Variant 1 be upgraded?
    Maybe, but not necessary.

    Variants are “permanent side quests”. They won’t be an obstacle in your account progression. I would say Variants are kind of place to test your skills and the depth of your roster, particular Variant 1.

    It could be more like a place to give you a sense of achievement. You could ask for better rewards, but if you want Variant 1 nerfed, this game will lose the last “purgatory they could maintain.
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