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Details How I did Abyss 100% without Aegon.
BeroMan
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Okay, this post will be quite long where I describe in detail How I did Abyss 100% without using Aegon ( without doom as well). Maybe it could be helpful for other players because many people wrongly thinks that abyss 100% is not doable without Aegon in reasonable resources.
Path I (so cold easy path)
I did path 1 immediately after release. I did not have Aegon, Torch and Doom for this time. My team was Ghost, Corvus, Magik, Quake, Nick Fury. I brought Magik instead of SS because before Captain Marvel nerf she was the worst fight on the path and Magik was the great counter, unlike the SS. After CMM nerf she can be soloed almost any mystic, so at this moment best Mystic for path 1 are SS, Doom or Morningstar. but Magik still works against all cosmic fights, just you need 4 or 5 MD against Venom the Duck. Other problematic fights on the paths are probably Mephisto and Invisible Woman. I used Quake against Mephisto and it went quite well .. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKtyxiGrNlk&t
in general, I think people overestimates abyss Mephisto. Because of unlimited parries and relatively low attack values his aura damage is not much and can be avoid, in one run I used even Ghost against him..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RcnVA2XS4o&t
As for Invisible Woman everyone knows that NF is best option so I used him but its good to know that Human Torch works fine against her too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpz68wY-Kgo&t
and as for Collector, I mostly used Corvus and Ghost and in the last 20% quake as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8-17LvEyQ&t
Path II
For this path my team was Ghost, Wasp, Hood, NF and Human Torch...
I used Ghost on this path against lot of problematic fights. she is great counter against luke cage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKVwC59X_8&t
but my favorite fight on this path Punisher 99. I did not know how it would go but in fact it was very fun and entartaining with ghost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M38ZvztHqY&t..
She is great against Taskmaster and Mordo too.
at this point CMM was nerfed and it was not bad at all with my rank 5 hood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxeZogFl3Oo&t
In fact Hood damage output is not grea but he works against cosmic champs and since I was running suicides he was very helful for Ghost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtE08CzaKOY&t.. On this path there is green goblin as well which is very annyoing but not too bad with NF.
For collector I exclusivly used Ghost and Have full video for that fight Because I had wasp, it was not too bad..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcnCv-mIemI&t=10s...
Path III
For this path my team was Corvus, Proxima, Human Torch, She hulk and Heindel.
This path is probably easiest one after path 1, Everytone knows that shehulk is great option against Luke cage but she is greeat for cosmic fights too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERwx6VKHPgM... I used Proxima against 2 Havok and Korg. She does well against both. Actually Havok can be done by most of the champs if you play correctly, main thing is that you have to push him always sp.2 and since attack values are not high in abyss his detonations is not doing any major damage, with willpower mastery you get heal as well for entire fight. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dMsC1f3znE
As for Korg. Korg cannot shrug off parry inflicted by Proxima because when proxima blocks she reduces ability accuracy by 200% therefore its quite easy to remove rock stacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05MJb_-vZbI&t
For red Skull I used Corvus and it was not bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpXbEITFxwc&t
BTW Nick Fury also works against him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7eRE4Pl4g0
I used Human Torch against Bishop -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jegi_s3Rw4&list=PL9VHOrKg4CqlS4beAlWaTYdNkZE-2GFuI&index...
Warning: if you try this fight with Human Torch first you have to make sure that you know how to evade Bishop's unblockable sp.2 or it can get ugly.
For Collector, for this run I used Corvus and since had True strike from proxima synergy it was managable. That's basicly main reason why I wanted to bring Proxima to help Corvus against Collector and ignore his 10% evade chance.
Path IV
For this path my team was Corvus, Torch, Ghost, Hood, NF.
I would say Corvus is one of the most needed champ for this path. He is great against 2 Killmongers on this path
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9w8Hy2haJo&t
and also he is best option against Massacre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPqvvQrzrl4&t...
I used Ghost again against Luke cage, also against Korg and Hood, which inflicts bleed and poison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcCMPJuEs8&t
For collector I used Ghost and Corvus mainly. But since I did not have wasp or proxima it was harder this time.
Path V
For this path my team was Corvus, Proxima, Human Torch, NF, Quake...
I used Torch for Ghulk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ERcyM8TZ8
also against Cable -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZVzo2d8Xfk&t
and also against Symbiot Supreme...you need to remove all crit enhancment masteries for this fight.
Other important fights I think I alredy described in other pathes.
....
So this is my story..Maybe I missed some points but I can answer in comments if there will be some questions. Main point of this post is that you can try make your teams based on your roster and pathes and don't assume that if you don't have so cald "horsman" you are authomaticly out to do abyss.
I used around 20K units worth of items for 100%.. But of course I did not spent that many units, but grinded resourses and had very good stash before every run.
I think that is... Maybe someone finds this info helpful to plan their runs and also since I often get asked how I did my abyss I can send this link from now on. Peace.
Path I (so cold easy path)
I did path 1 immediately after release. I did not have Aegon, Torch and Doom for this time. My team was Ghost, Corvus, Magik, Quake, Nick Fury. I brought Magik instead of SS because before Captain Marvel nerf she was the worst fight on the path and Magik was the great counter, unlike the SS. After CMM nerf she can be soloed almost any mystic, so at this moment best Mystic for path 1 are SS, Doom or Morningstar. but Magik still works against all cosmic fights, just you need 4 or 5 MD against Venom the Duck. Other problematic fights on the paths are probably Mephisto and Invisible Woman. I used Quake against Mephisto and it went quite well .. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKtyxiGrNlk&t in general, I think people overestimates abyss Mephisto. Because of unlimited parries and relatively low attack values his aura damage is not much and can be avoid, in one run I used even Ghost against him..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RcnVA2XS4o&tAs for Invisible Woman everyone knows that NF is best option so I used him but its good to know that Human Torch works fine against her too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpz68wY-Kgo&tand as for Collector, I mostly used Corvus and Ghost and in the last 20% quake as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8-17LvEyQ&tPath II
For this path my team was Ghost, Wasp, Hood, NF and Human Torch...
I used Ghost on this path against lot of problematic fights. she is great counter against luke cage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKVwC59X_8&tbut my favorite fight on this path Punisher 99. I did not know how it would go but in fact it was very fun and entartaining with ghost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M38ZvztHqY&t.. She is great against Taskmaster and Mordo too.
at this point CMM was nerfed and it was not bad at all with my rank 5 hood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxeZogFl3Oo&tIn fact Hood damage output is not grea but he works against cosmic champs and since I was running suicides he was very helful for Ghost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtE08CzaKOY&t.. On this path there is green goblin as well which is very annyoing but not too bad with NF.For collector I exclusivly used Ghost and Have full video for that fight Because I had wasp, it was not too bad..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcnCv-mIemI&t=10s...Path III
For this path my team was Corvus, Proxima, Human Torch, She hulk and Heindel.
This path is probably easiest one after path 1, Everytone knows that shehulk is great option against Luke cage but she is greeat for cosmic fights too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERwx6VKHPgM... I used Proxima against 2 Havok and Korg. She does well against both. Actually Havok can be done by most of the champs if you play correctly, main thing is that you have to push him always sp.2 and since attack values are not high in abyss his detonations is not doing any major damage, with willpower mastery you get heal as well for entire fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dMsC1f3znEAs for Korg. Korg cannot shrug off parry inflicted by Proxima because when proxima blocks she reduces ability accuracy by 200% therefore its quite easy to remove rock stacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05MJb_-vZbI&tFor red Skull I used Corvus and it was not bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpXbEITFxwc&tBTW Nick Fury also works against him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7eRE4Pl4g0I used Human Torch against Bishop -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jegi_s3Rw4&list=PL9VHOrKg4CqlS4beAlWaTYdNkZE-2GFuI&index...Warning: if you try this fight with Human Torch first you have to make sure that you know how to evade Bishop's unblockable sp.2 or it can get ugly.
For Collector, for this run I used Corvus and since had True strike from proxima synergy it was managable. That's basicly main reason why I wanted to bring Proxima to help Corvus against Collector and ignore his 10% evade chance.
Path IV
For this path my team was Corvus, Torch, Ghost, Hood, NF.
I would say Corvus is one of the most needed champ for this path. He is great against 2 Killmongers on this path
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9w8Hy2haJo&t and also he is best option against Massacre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPqvvQrzrl4&t... I used Ghost again against Luke cage, also against Korg and Hood, which inflicts bleed and poison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcCMPJuEs8&tFor collector I used Ghost and Corvus mainly. But since I did not have wasp or proxima it was harder this time.
Path V
For this path my team was Corvus, Proxima, Human Torch, NF, Quake...
I used Torch for Ghulk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ERcyM8TZ8also against Cable -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZVzo2d8Xfk&tand also against Symbiot Supreme...you need to remove all crit enhancment masteries for this fight.
Other important fights I think I alredy described in other pathes.
....
So this is my story..Maybe I missed some points but I can answer in comments if there will be some questions. Main point of this post is that you can try make your teams based on your roster and pathes and don't assume that if you don't have so cald "horsman" you are authomaticly out to do abyss.
I used around 20K units worth of items for 100%.. But of course I did not spent that many units, but grinded resourses and had very good stash before every run.
I think that is... Maybe someone finds this info helpful to plan their runs and also since I often get asked how I did my abyss I can send this link from now on. Peace.
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Just out of curiosity, what was your chosen class nexus crystal? Did you get what you were looking for?
or also this one against IMIW. he works pretty well just different style from usual questing.
Gonna use R5 Void
R2 6* Doom
R5 Low sig (20 ish) Aegon
Idk who to use on last 2 slots
Got R5 Sparky
Cap IW
CMM
KM
OR
Blade
GR
Ghulk
6* R2 WS
Unduped Aegon
R4 Proxima
Sabertooth
Mordo
Surfer
Xbones
X23
Storm pyramid x
and more
got 6*
Gambit
MS
IF
Storm OG
KG
Annhilus
BPCW
Thor Rags
Havok
I was thinking maybe Heimdall for Safety Net and who for last spot? I dont run suicides. I was gonna use Sparky as main before Aegon duped. Sparky does Decent Damage on abyss
And also How does Aegon do against Invisible woman? And how do I play him against her? cause I heard she needs debuffs to not get stunned
As for another question You can consider bringing Proxima for Aegon synergy, it increases fury potency and also gives extra safety to Aegon from combo shield.
@BeroMan Can you not use power boosts in abyss?
Appreciate this post in general saving units for my first run and have a lot of same champs so very useful..
I am eyeing for an initial clear (easy path).
This is the team I want to bring in.
Aegon 5/65 max sig
Nick 5/65 sig 40
Torch 5/65 sig 60
Void 5/65 sig 110 as of now, will get him to max sig before the run for sure.
MorningStar 5/65 sig 60 ( I'll try to get her as high signature as possible too).
Have 4/5 MD and full suicides (for the collector).
It took me about 2,500 units to explore labyrinth in 8 paths (yes I made a stupid mistake that cost me an extra path). I don't know if that's an appropriate metric for my ability to play this game, but I was thinking 6,000 units for the easy path along with a good stash of farmed potions and revives.
Thoughts?
I'd appreciate your input on this.
Cheers!
Have a great day!
Hi,
I am planning to do abyss for the first time and given below are 5 star my roster..any suggestion which team should i take ? I dont have the 4 Abyss horsemen other than Human Torch.