Details How I did Abyss 100% without Aegon.

BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
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Okay, this post will be quite long where I describe in detail How I did Abyss 100% without using Aegon ( without doom as well). Maybe it could be helpful for other players because many people wrongly thinks that abyss 100% is not doable without Aegon in reasonable resources.

Path I (so cold easy path)

I did path 1 immediately after release. I did not have Aegon, Torch and Doom for this time. My team was Ghost, Corvus, Magik, Quake, Nick Fury. I brought Magik instead of SS because before Captain Marvel nerf she was the worst fight on the path and Magik was the great counter, unlike the SS. After CMM nerf she can be soloed almost any mystic, so at this moment best Mystic for path 1 are SS, Doom or Morningstar. but Magik still works against all cosmic fights, just you need 4 or 5 MD against Venom the Duck. Other problematic fights on the paths are probably Mephisto and Invisible Woman. I used Quake against Mephisto and it went quite well .. .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKtyxiGrNlk&t

in general, I think people overestimates abyss Mephisto. Because of unlimited parries and relatively low attack values his aura damage is not much and can be avoid, in one run I used even Ghost against him.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RcnVA2XS4o&t

As for Invisible Woman everyone knows that NF is best option so I used him but its good to know that Human Torch works fine against her too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpz68wY-Kgo&t

and as for Collector, I mostly used Corvus and Ghost and in the last 20% quake as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8-17LvEyQ&t

Path II

For this path my team was Ghost, Wasp, Hood, NF and Human Torch...

I used Ghost on this path against lot of problematic fights. she is great counter against luke cage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKVwC59X_8&t

but my favorite fight on this path Punisher 99. I did not know how it would go but in fact it was very fun and entartaining with ghost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M38ZvztHqY&t..

She is great against Taskmaster and Mordo too.

at this point CMM was nerfed and it was not bad at all with my rank 5 hood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxeZogFl3Oo&t
In fact Hood damage output is not grea but he works against cosmic champs and since I was running suicides he was very helful for Ghost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtE08CzaKOY&t.. On this path there is green goblin as well which is very annyoing but not too bad with NF.

For collector I exclusivly used Ghost and Have full video for that fight Because I had wasp, it was not too bad.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcnCv-mIemI&t=10s...

Path III

For this path my team was Corvus, Proxima, Human Torch, She hulk and Heindel.

This path is probably easiest one after path 1, Everytone knows that shehulk is great option against Luke cage but she is greeat for cosmic fights too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERwx6VKHPgM... I used Proxima against 2 Havok and Korg. She does well against both. Actually Havok can be done by most of the champs if you play correctly, main thing is that you have to push him always sp.2 and since attack values are not high in abyss his detonations is not doing any major damage, with willpower mastery you get heal as well for entire fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dMsC1f3znE

As for Korg. Korg cannot shrug off parry inflicted by Proxima because when proxima blocks she reduces ability accuracy by 200% therefore its quite easy to remove rock stacks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05MJb_-vZbI&t

For red Skull I used Corvus and it was not bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpXbEITFxwc&t

BTW Nick Fury also works against him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7eRE4Pl4g0

I used Human Torch against Bishop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jegi_s3Rw4&list=PL9VHOrKg4CqlS4beAlWaTYdNkZE-2GFuI&index...

Warning: if you try this fight with Human Torch first you have to make sure that you know how to evade Bishop's unblockable sp.2 or it can get ugly.

For Collector, for this run I used Corvus and since had True strike from proxima synergy it was managable. That's basicly main reason why I wanted to bring Proxima to help Corvus against Collector and ignore his 10% evade chance.

Path IV

For this path my team was Corvus, Torch, Ghost, Hood, NF.

I would say Corvus is one of the most needed champ for this path. He is great against 2 Killmongers on this path https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9w8Hy2haJo&t

and also he is best option against Massacre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPqvvQrzrl4&t...

I used Ghost again against Luke cage, also against Korg and Hood, which inflicts bleed and poison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcCMPJuEs8&t

For collector I used Ghost and Corvus mainly. But since I did not have wasp or proxima it was harder this time.

Path V

For this path my team was Corvus, Proxima, Human Torch, NF, Quake...

I used Torch for Ghulk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ERcyM8TZ8

also against Cable - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZVzo2d8Xfk&t

and also against Symbiot Supreme...you need to remove all crit enhancment masteries for this fight.

Other important fights I think I alredy described in other pathes.

....

So this is my story..Maybe I missed some points but I can answer in comments if there will be some questions. Main point of this post is that you can try make your teams based on your roster and pathes and don't assume that if you don't have so cald "horsman" you are authomaticly out to do abyss.

I used around 20K units worth of items for 100%.. But of course I did not spent that many units, but grinded resourses and had very good stash before every run.

I think that is... Maybe someone finds this info helpful to plan their runs and also since I often get asked how I did my abyss I can send this link from now on. Peace.

Comments

  • wingedWarrior2099wingedWarrior2099 Member Posts: 124 ★
    Is archangel a good replacement for nick fury on Path one
  • WhatElseWhatElse Member Posts: 186 ★★★
    Nice job @BeroMan on showing alternatives approaches besides the typical 4 Horsemen. I've also been checking your Youtube videos before this thread and they are very nice as well.

    Just out of curiosity, what was your chosen class nexus crystal? Did you get what you were looking for?
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    WhatElse said:

    Nice job @BeroMan on showing alternatives approaches besides the typical 4 Horsemen. I've also been checking your Youtube videos before this thread and they are very nice as well.

    Just out of curiosity, what was your chosen class nexus crystal? Did you get what you were looking for?

    I had rank 2 unduped Aegon, so after 100% abyss, I chose skill nexus crystal got Aegon and rank 3-ed him, not that I am using him much after that, lol.
  • Psy26Psy26 Member Posts: 159 ★
    Awesome write-up man! You bring hope to all aegonless summoners. Out of curiosity, did you track unit/revive usage?
  • WhatElseWhatElse Member Posts: 186 ★★★
    BeroMan said:

    WhatElse said:

    Nice job @BeroMan on showing alternatives approaches besides the typical 4 Horsemen. I've also been checking your Youtube videos before this thread and they are very nice as well.

    Just out of curiosity, what was your chosen class nexus crystal? Did you get what you were looking for?

    I had rank 2 unduped Aegon, so after 100% abyss, I chose skill nexus crystal got Aegon and rank 3-ed him, not that I am using him much after that, lol.
    It makes sense. I had a skill t5cc and chose a skill nexus crystal as well. In my case, got both Nick Fury and Aegon there. Since I would awaken any of them with my generic awakening gem, decided to go for Fury exactly because I don't think I'll use Aegon that much at the moment (when compared to NF).
  • TrashPanda12TrashPanda12 Member Posts: 531 ★★★
    Quick question, how does Corvus work with this high of health pools? I'm genuinely curious because I have a 5/65 corvus but never thought of using him in something like abyss. Am I missing something?
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    TrashPanda12 said:

    Quick question, how does Corvus work with this high of health pools? I'm genuinely curious because I have a 5/65 corvus but never thought of using him in something like abyss. Am I missing something?

    You can check Corvus vids that I linked in the post. this one as well for example against Thor Rag. that had 5 mil health. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3HPGSE9Ckg&t

    or also this one against IMIW. he works pretty well just different style from usual questing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_tLk62Ua4Q

  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    Psy26 said:

    Awesome write-up man! You bring hope to all aegonless summoners. Out of curiosity, did you track unit/revive usage?

    Roughly, not exactly but as I said I used around 20K units worth of items for 100%.. But of course, I did not spend that many units, but grounded resources and had very good stash before every run.
  • Psy26Psy26 Member Posts: 159 ★
    It's cool. Again, awesome job!
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,413 ★★★★★
    Bero who whould be best for easy path?

    Gonna use R5 Void
    R2 6* Doom
    R5 Low sig (20 ish) Aegon

    Idk who to use on last 2 slots


    Got R5 Sparky
    Cap IW
    CMM
    KM
    OR
    Blade
    GR
    Ghulk
    6* R2 WS
    Unduped Aegon

    R4 Proxima
    Sabertooth
    Mordo
    Surfer
    Xbones
    X23
    Storm pyramid x
    and more

    got 6*
    Gambit
    MS
    IF
    Storm OG
    KG
    Annhilus
    BPCW
    Thor Rags
    Havok

    I was thinking maybe Heimdall for Safety Net and who for last spot? I dont run suicides. I was gonna use Sparky as main before Aegon duped. Sparky does Decent Damage on abyss

    And also How does Aegon do against Invisible woman? And how do I play him against her? cause I heard she needs debuffs to not get stunned
  • TesladonTesladon Member Posts: 344 ★★
    Great write up! Complete with pictures. Appreciation.
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    Ghostboytjie said:

    Bero who whould be best for easy path?

    Gonna use R5 Void
    R2 6* Doom
    R5 Low sig (20 ish) Aegon

    Idk who to use on last 2 slots


    Got R5 Sparky
    Cap IW
    CMM
    KM
    OR
    Blade
    GR
    Ghulk
    6* R2 WS
    Unduped Aegon

    R4 Proxima
    Sabertooth
    Mordo
    Surfer
    Xbones
    X23
    Storm pyramid x
    and more

    got 6*
    Gambit
    MS
    IF
    Storm OG
    KG
    Annhilus
    BPCW
    Thor Rags
    Havok

    I was thinking maybe Heimdall for Safety Net and who for last spot? I dont run suicides. I was gonna use Sparky as main before Aegon duped. Sparky does Decent Damage on abyss

    And also How does Aegon do against Invisible woman? And how do I play him against her? cause I heard she needs debuffs to not get stunned

    If you have resonate mastery unlocked Aegon can do Invisible Woman, if not it's harder. But heard people done it, just you have to heal fully before the fight and spam sp.1. and take power sting damage to avoid getting stunned. power sting damage is not very big if you heal fully. But I have not done that fight with Aegon.

    As for another question You can consider bringing Proxima for Aegon synergy, it increases fury potency and also gives extra safety to Aegon from combo shield.
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    Tesladon said:

    Great write up! Complete with pictures. Appreciation.

    Thnx dude! Those are not pictures though but the video links you can check.
  • AztecAztec Member Posts: 293 ★★
    how much unit approx you spend for easy path ??
  • BerjibsBerjibs Member Posts: 1,536 ★★★★
    Some beautiful fights with Corvus. 👍

    @BeroMan Can you not use power boosts in abyss?
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    Berjibs said:

    Some beautiful fights with Corvus. 👍

    @BeroMan Can you not use power boosts in abyss?

    You can, but does not worth it. Because you get power from power boost proportionate to the damage done, so since they have millions HPs you don't get any meaningful power back.
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    Aztec said:

    how much unit approx you spend for easy path ??

    I already answered that question. I used around 20K units worth of items for 100%. So around 4K units per path... But of course, I did not spend that many units, but grinded resources and had very good stash before every run.
  • BerjibsBerjibs Member Posts: 1,536 ★★★★
    BeroMan said:

    Berjibs said:

    Some beautiful fights with Corvus. 👍

    @BeroMan Can you not use power boosts in abyss?

    You can, but does not worth it. Because you get power from power boost proportionate to the damage done, so since they have millions HPs you don't get any meaningful power back.
    Thanks man I never understood how they worked but that makes a lot of sense. I’d tried them with colossus in LOL and wasnt getting anything back, thought it was bugged.


    Appreciate this post in general saving units for my first run and have a lot of same champs so very useful..

  • abqberabqber Member Posts: 230 ★★
    First up congratulations on getting it done for such a low cost overall!

    I am eyeing for an initial clear (easy path).
    This is the team I want to bring in.
    Aegon 5/65 max sig
    Nick 5/65 sig 40
    Torch 5/65 sig 60
    Void 5/65 sig 110 as of now, will get him to max sig before the run for sure.
    MorningStar 5/65 sig 60 ( I'll try to get her as high signature as possible too).
    Have 4/5 MD and full suicides (for the collector).

    It took me about 2,500 units to explore labyrinth in 8 paths (yes I made a stupid mistake that cost me an extra path). I don't know if that's an appropriate metric for my ability to play this game, but I was thinking 6,000 units for the easy path along with a good stash of farmed potions and revives.

    Thoughts?
    I'd appreciate your input on this.
    Cheers!
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    abqber said:

    First up congratulations on getting it done for such a low cost overall!

    I am eyeing for an initial clear (easy path).
    This is the team I want to bring in.
    Aegon 5/65 max sig
    Nick 5/65 sig 40
    Torch 5/65 sig 60
    Void 5/65 sig 110 as of now, will get him to max sig before the run for sure.
    MorningStar 5/65 sig 60 ( I'll try to get her as high signature as possible too).
    Have 4/5 MD and full suicides (for the collector).

    It took me about 2,500 units to explore labyrinth in 8 paths (yes I made a stupid mistake that cost me an extra path). I don't know if that's an appropriate metric for my ability to play this game, but I was thinking 6,000 units for the easy path along with a good stash of farmed potions and revives.

    Thoughts?
    I'd appreciate your input on this.
    Cheers!

    @abqber For what you need Void when you have Torch?! I would definitely bring Heindel instead of Void. Other then that it seems that you are set, Morningstar is beast for the easy path, just need 3 points in MD against Venom the Duck, not more or you get too much power from sp.2.
  • abqberabqber Member Posts: 230 ★★
    BeroMan said:

    abqber said:

    First up congratulations on getting it done for such a low cost overall!

    I am eyeing for an initial clear (easy path).
    This is the team I want to bring in.
    Aegon 5/65 max sig
    Nick 5/65 sig 40
    Torch 5/65 sig 60
    Void 5/65 sig 110 as of now, will get him to max sig before the run for sure.
    MorningStar 5/65 sig 60 ( I'll try to get her as high signature as possible too).
    Have 4/5 MD and full suicides (for the collector).

    It took me about 2,500 units to explore labyrinth in 8 paths (yes I made a stupid mistake that cost me an extra path). I don't know if that's an appropriate metric for my ability to play this game, but I was thinking 6,000 units for the easy path along with a good stash of farmed potions and revives.

    Thoughts?
    I'd appreciate your input on this.
    Cheers!

    @abqber For what you need Void when you have Torch?! I would definitely bring Heindel instead of Void. Other then that it seems that you are set, Morningstar is beast for the easy path, just need 3 points in MD against Venom the Duck, not more or you get too much power from sp.2.
    Thank you for the input, appreciate it.
    Have a great day!
  • Anonymous1217Anonymous1217 Member Posts: 2 ★
    Very very helpful guide for players like me without aegon and doom . Really appericate it
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    Apparently, Gwenpool works too against Abyss Invisible Woman, whoever does not have NF.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9y6fxS5sU
  • BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
    edited December 2020
    6* Rank 3 Torch Solo Abyss Invisible Woman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gb6sXC4DQo&t
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  • UncleBen_69UncleBen_69 Member Posts: 28 ★
    edited June 2021

    Hi,

    I am planning to do abyss for the first time and given below are 5 star my roster..any suggestion which team should i take ? I dont have the 4 Abyss horsemen other than Human Torch.





  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    UncleBen_69 said:


    Hi,

    I am planning to do abyss for the first time and given below are 5 star my roster..any suggestion which team should i take ? I dont have the 4 Abyss horsemen other than Human Torch.





    Unless you are very skilled, you don't want to go in without r5's. Especially because you want to get a good hit count. You could bring Torch, Morning Star, Magneto, Prof X and maybe Kilmonger? You really don't have the champions for it and the ones that you may be able to do it with aren't leveled.
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