Elsa Bloodstone vs Gwenpool
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Been wondering who the superior skill champion is. Elsa has that:
- Evade counter
- Reliable access to debuffs
- Science slaying
- Evade-Intercept
- Good damage
- Purifying of non-damaging debuffs
But Gwenpool has:
- Good AAR
- Nice stacking bleeds
- Enervate, armor break and incinerates
- Plot armour (being the main character that she is)
- Good damage
I feel like their damage output is pretty similar, it's good, but not game breaking. Who do you guys consider to be better? (May have left out some of their abilities)
- Evade counter
- Reliable access to debuffs
- Science slaying
- Evade-Intercept
- Good damage
- Purifying of non-damaging debuffs
But Gwenpool has:
- Good AAR
- Nice stacking bleeds
- Enervate, armor break and incinerates
- Plot armour (being the main character that she is)
- Good damage
I feel like their damage output is pretty similar, it's good, but not game breaking. Who do you guys consider to be better? (May have left out some of their abilities)
Elsa Bloodstone vs Gwenpool 84 votes
Elsa
55%
47 votes
Gwenpool
44%
37 votes
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Elsa’s damage isn’t just “good”. Where as gwenpool’s is, and worse if they are bleed immune.
No boosts, no suicides. No synergies.
Pm me the video and I’ll have one for elsa ready to go.
I think I have an Elsa video in my YouTube library as well.
Found this on YouTube. I'm not saying Elsa's damage is bad, I already know how good her damage is. No need to try prove that.
Elsa has degen, coldsnap/incinerate and increase crit extra damage.
So when gwenpool isn’t hindered in the fight she’s comparable damage to Elsa. But slide the scale any which way and Elsa will beat gwenpool, damage wise.
100% reduced abilities after 50 hits for gwenpool. So till there is 50 hits it’s not a guarantee she’ll stop any defensive abilities.
What defensive abilities would we need to stop? Health regen? Evade? Armor ups?
-When I said elsa wasn’t at her full power I mean she wasn’t against a XL science opponent, where as gwenpool was maxed out for damage against ws. Meaning elsa has more yet to give.
Enervate, armour break, tanking of specials and you're really underestimating that AAR.
Overall I do not value her AAR as a must have. Many times the fight could be over at 50 hits or less. So 100% reduced defensive abilities after 50 hits isn’t appealing to me. If her AAR was 100% from the beginning of the fight different story.
Her enervate sucks, let’s be honest. You have to get to her sp2 and they have to be capable of bleeding. Otherwise it just falls off and is pointless to have gotten that extra combo in. At this moment in the game I rely heavily on defenders getting power and throwing specials. Thus limits the amount of chip damage I take in a fight. I understand gwenpool can pin defenders in the corner with it when it’s done right.
I’ve never been in a situation where I felt I needed gwenpool’s armor break, except when I need her to do more damage because it’s lacklustre.
There’s one situation where tanking specials is required, wait I can’t think of it. So nice safety net, definitely. But not required in the game as per normal progression in the game.
Yes, gwenpool can gain a little bit more attack rating when she has the class advantage. But it’s not noticeable, but Elsa vs the perfect match up for her is a noticeable difference in damage. From average fight to perfect match.
The armour break is there to get more damage, if you aren't using it then you aren't getting the most out of it. Armour break itself is utility as there are abilities that can get shut down with it.
And yes, Gwenpool needs to bleed the opponent to get the most out of her abilities. Established. Of course she's not the first person that I'll use for power control, but her Enervate can provide that. You can always choose to not use it if you prefer baiting specials.
Tanking specials is not just a safety net. It allows a play style of infinitely tanking specials, if there are no additional effects like stun or a damaging debuffs. First thing that come to mind is Hyperion, Mordo and all or nothing.
I love Elsa, but some of you are either highly overrating her or sadly underrating Gwenpool. The margin of difference between the two is negligible enough to come down to preference. Also saying against bleed immune her damage is useless while true, the same could be said about Nick Fury or Archangel. Is Elsa better then them lol