How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint. First: You apparently look at the email as if it were a PSA. I look at it as if it were a promo piece intended to stoke demand for in-game stuff during one of the game’s biggest revenue events. There was an entire thread surrounding this particular email and how the offers would be stratified. The team knew there was concern about the offers in general (because there always is around BF offers), and there was ample opportunity for any member of the team to make the points you are making prior to Black Friday. They didn’t, to my knowledge. Second: This is a for-profit phone game, not the Olympics. I’m tired of people talking about titles as if they are sacrosanct or involve some sort of act by the Papacy. They are not and they do not. I would guess that progression titles were more or less ginned up to sell more stuff—stuff that gets sold everywhere anyway. Just last week, they sold 10% T5c selectors for $50 with a limit of 2. Anyone who has completed Act 6 and done all the Cavalier EQ content (but not Abyss) and has had even marginal luck is close to a single T5c and could have used one or more of those deals—without ever buying any other T5c deals—to form a full T5c. If you bought every single T5c selector offer, I suspect you might even be to form a full T5c without even doing any Cav EQ content or Abyss. With that in mind, it is hard for me to see how the TB/R3 requirement is anything more than arbitrary. Third: I had low to no expectations. And still I was disappointed. That’s quite an accomplishment. Dr. Zola So......people made an assumption and it was their fault? That about it?That IS the requirement. You can justify it however you like, but that's what's required for the Title. Those are the markers. The proverbial lines in the sand. In this case, those that have an R3 and have completed Act 6, and those that haven't. You might think it's arbitrary, but necessary it remains. Not sure how the point got lost, but I think we were talking about the offers and how they were promoted. My point is that not only did the team appear to suggest their offers would help progression, but that even the arguments made regarding the sanctity of progression titles are undermined by efforts to monetize them. I’m guessing from reactions to said offers—here and elsewhere—that I’m not alone in my interpretation. Dr. Zola Nowhere did they say the Offers would get people to Thronebreaker. That was an assumption people made.
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint. First: You apparently look at the email as if it were a PSA. I look at it as if it were a promo piece intended to stoke demand for in-game stuff during one of the game’s biggest revenue events. There was an entire thread surrounding this particular email and how the offers would be stratified. The team knew there was concern about the offers in general (because there always is around BF offers), and there was ample opportunity for any member of the team to make the points you are making prior to Black Friday. They didn’t, to my knowledge. Second: This is a for-profit phone game, not the Olympics. I’m tired of people talking about titles as if they are sacrosanct or involve some sort of act by the Papacy. They are not and they do not. I would guess that progression titles were more or less ginned up to sell more stuff—stuff that gets sold everywhere anyway. Just last week, they sold 10% T5c selectors for $50 with a limit of 2. Anyone who has completed Act 6 and done all the Cavalier EQ content (but not Abyss) and has had even marginal luck is close to a single T5c and could have used one or more of those deals—without ever buying any other T5c deals—to form a full T5c. If you bought every single T5c selector offer, I suspect you might even be to form a full T5c without even doing any Cav EQ content or Abyss. With that in mind, it is hard for me to see how the TB/R3 requirement is anything more than arbitrary. Third: I had low to no expectations. And still I was disappointed. That’s quite an accomplishment. Dr. Zola So......people made an assumption and it was their fault? That about it?That IS the requirement. You can justify it however you like, but that's what's required for the Title. Those are the markers. The proverbial lines in the sand. In this case, those that have an R3 and have completed Act 6, and those that haven't. You might think it's arbitrary, but necessary it remains. Not sure how the point got lost, but I think we were talking about the offers and how they were promoted. My point is that not only did the team appear to suggest their offers would help progression, but that even the arguments made regarding the sanctity of progression titles are undermined by efforts to monetize them. I’m guessing from reactions to said offers—here and elsewhere—that I’m not alone in my interpretation. Dr. Zola
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint. First: You apparently look at the email as if it were a PSA. I look at it as if it were a promo piece intended to stoke demand for in-game stuff during one of the game’s biggest revenue events. There was an entire thread surrounding this particular email and how the offers would be stratified. The team knew there was concern about the offers in general (because there always is around BF offers), and there was ample opportunity for any member of the team to make the points you are making prior to Black Friday. They didn’t, to my knowledge. Second: This is a for-profit phone game, not the Olympics. I’m tired of people talking about titles as if they are sacrosanct or involve some sort of act by the Papacy. They are not and they do not. I would guess that progression titles were more or less ginned up to sell more stuff—stuff that gets sold everywhere anyway. Just last week, they sold 10% T5c selectors for $50 with a limit of 2. Anyone who has completed Act 6 and done all the Cavalier EQ content (but not Abyss) and has had even marginal luck is close to a single T5c and could have used one or more of those deals—without ever buying any other T5c deals—to form a full T5c. If you bought every single T5c selector offer, I suspect you might even be to form a full T5c without even doing any Cav EQ content or Abyss. With that in mind, it is hard for me to see how the TB/R3 requirement is anything more than arbitrary. Third: I had low to no expectations. And still I was disappointed. That’s quite an accomplishment. Dr. Zola So......people made an assumption and it was their fault? That about it?That IS the requirement. You can justify it however you like, but that's what's required for the Title. Those are the markers. The proverbial lines in the sand. In this case, those that have an R3 and have completed Act 6, and those that haven't. You might think it's arbitrary, but necessary it remains.
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint. First: You apparently look at the email as if it were a PSA. I look at it as if it were a promo piece intended to stoke demand for in-game stuff during one of the game’s biggest revenue events. There was an entire thread surrounding this particular email and how the offers would be stratified. The team knew there was concern about the offers in general (because there always is around BF offers), and there was ample opportunity for any member of the team to make the points you are making prior to Black Friday. They didn’t, to my knowledge. Second: This is a for-profit phone game, not the Olympics. I’m tired of people talking about titles as if they are sacrosanct or involve some sort of act by the Papacy. They are not and they do not. I would guess that progression titles were more or less ginned up to sell more stuff—stuff that gets sold everywhere anyway. Just last week, they sold 10% T5c selectors for $50 with a limit of 2. Anyone who has completed Act 6 and done all the Cavalier EQ content (but not Abyss) and has had even marginal luck is close to a single T5c and could have used one or more of those deals—without ever buying any other T5c deals—to form a full T5c. If you bought every single T5c selector offer, I suspect you might even be to form a full T5c without even doing any Cav EQ content or Abyss. With that in mind, it is hard for me to see how the TB/R3 requirement is anything more than arbitrary. Third: I had low to no expectations. And still I was disappointed. That’s quite an accomplishment. Dr. Zola
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint.
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption.
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet?
How did I know this would come? Lol.
I mean, I get it. I was wrong too. I thought they would have included some kind of T5CC component for Cav and more for TB. I can admit that. That was my guess. It doesn't mean I'm entitled to what I thought they would do.
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint. First: You apparently look at the email as if it were a PSA. I look at it as if it were a promo piece intended to stoke demand for in-game stuff during one of the game’s biggest revenue events. There was an entire thread surrounding this particular email and how the offers would be stratified. The team knew there was concern about the offers in general (because there always is around BF offers), and there was ample opportunity for any member of the team to make the points you are making prior to Black Friday. They didn’t, to my knowledge. Second: This is a for-profit phone game, not the Olympics. I’m tired of people talking about titles as if they are sacrosanct or involve some sort of act by the Papacy. They are not and they do not. I would guess that progression titles were more or less ginned up to sell more stuff—stuff that gets sold everywhere anyway. Just last week, they sold 10% T5c selectors for $50 with a limit of 2. Anyone who has completed Act 6 and done all the Cavalier EQ content (but not Abyss) and has had even marginal luck is close to a single T5c and could have used one or more of those deals—without ever buying any other T5c deals—to form a full T5c. If you bought every single T5c selector offer, I suspect you might even be to form a full T5c without even doing any Cav EQ content or Abyss. With that in mind, it is hard for me to see how the TB/R3 requirement is anything more than arbitrary. Third: I had low to no expectations. And still I was disappointed. That’s quite an accomplishment. Dr. Zola So......people made an assumption and it was their fault? That about it?That IS the requirement. You can justify it however you like, but that's what's required for the Title. Those are the markers. The proverbial lines in the sand. In this case, those that have an R3 and have completed Act 6, and those that haven't. You might think it's arbitrary, but necessary it remains. Not sure how the point got lost, but I think we were talking about the offers and how they were promoted. My point is that not only did the team appear to suggest their offers would help progression, but that even the arguments made regarding the sanctity of progression titles are undermined by efforts to monetize them. I’m guessing from reactions to said offers—here and elsewhere—that I’m not alone in my interpretation. Dr. Zola Nowhere did they say the Offers would get people to Thronebreaker. That was an assumption people made. Did they literally, explicitly, without and qualification say: “These offers will get you Thronebreaker!” No, of course not. I’m beginning to think I’m arguing with Drax here...Dr. Zola
Deals are straight trash this year. Disappointed is an understatement and don't know if ill be wasting anymore cash on this game. I'm cavalier and use duel crystals to try for a chance to get a specific champion but only receive duplicates most if not all the time. I spent a my 5☆ crystals on the duel crystals today, about 150k worth and only got 2 new champions. Even the nexus crystals have become bogus. It would be nice to see the wish crystal introduced in the game soon but it seem doubtful Kabam would do it.
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. Has to be a troll post. I can't even think you're being serious.What Cavalier player who's at 6.3+ needs T4b from a unit deal? Please check the deals first. Read them clearly and then come back. Let's look at this logically. They come out with a new bar to hit which separates Players based on progress. You have the biggest sale of the year coming up where loads of people spend, and the most rare Resource in the game is needed. Do you think they're going to add it so that many people can hit it all at once? Is it even a bar anymore?
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. Has to be a troll post. I can't even think you're being serious.What Cavalier player who's at 6.3+ needs T4b from a unit deal? Please check the deals first. Read them clearly and then come back.
Wouldn’t have it been a better idea to cater Cav deals to helping them progress to TB. I am sure 90% of Cav players would have bought some making Kabam a ton of money. If you made it so that a combination of deals guaranteed a 6* r3 rank up, you would have made double what you made/will make this weekend. Instead you have now irritated a large group of players with pitiful offers and turning away buyers. In one of my alliances it’s been categorically stated that none of us are buying any of the offers. I feel let down as a Cav player. And in the process Throne breaker would have been a pointless title. What Cavs got was ****, but they were not going to make the new title pointless. You see this is where you are wrong. TB is purely a cash grab title. The only difference between a Cav player who has Act6 complete and a TB IS THE 6*r3. Plain and simple. There is no extra story content that a TB player has completed. There is nothing between them other than 1 ranked champion. That’s it. There is no denying that. So by giving those players access to materials needed become TB does not diminish TB at all. TB was diminished the moment they made it require a ranked champion. A lot of people on the verge of becoming TB needed a selector to get the right class. Putting that in (more than 15% 3x5’s) would have gone a long way. To have a cash grab title but not put cash grab deals up is ludicrous.Tell me what really separates a Cav player and TB when they both have Act6 complete. And if it’s something other than a ranked champion then your response holds weight. If not.....
Wouldn’t have it been a better idea to cater Cav deals to helping them progress to TB. I am sure 90% of Cav players would have bought some making Kabam a ton of money. If you made it so that a combination of deals guaranteed a 6* r3 rank up, you would have made double what you made/will make this weekend. Instead you have now irritated a large group of players with pitiful offers and turning away buyers. In one of my alliances it’s been categorically stated that none of us are buying any of the offers. I feel let down as a Cav player. And in the process Throne breaker would have been a pointless title. What Cavs got was ****, but they were not going to make the new title pointless.
Wouldn’t have it been a better idea to cater Cav deals to helping them progress to TB. I am sure 90% of Cav players would have bought some making Kabam a ton of money. If you made it so that a combination of deals guaranteed a 6* r3 rank up, you would have made double what you made/will make this weekend. Instead you have now irritated a large group of players with pitiful offers and turning away buyers. In one of my alliances it’s been categorically stated that none of us are buying any of the offers. I feel let down as a Cav player.
Hey guys,I want to thank you all for your feedback. I completely understand where our Cavalier players are coming from today (I'm a Cav player as well), and I wanted to let you know that I am going to be talking to the team about this, so we can learn from it for the future.Thank you again for your constructive feedback.
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint. First: You apparently look at the email as if it were a PSA. I look at it as if it were a promo piece intended to stoke demand for in-game stuff during one of the game’s biggest revenue events. There was an entire thread surrounding this particular email and how the offers would be stratified. The team knew there was concern about the offers in general (because there always is around BF offers), and there was ample opportunity for any member of the team to make the points you are making prior to Black Friday. They didn’t, to my knowledge. Second: This is a for-profit phone game, not the Olympics. I’m tired of people talking about titles as if they are sacrosanct or involve some sort of act by the Papacy. They are not and they do not. I would guess that progression titles were more or less ginned up to sell more stuff—stuff that gets sold everywhere anyway. Just last week, they sold 10% T5c selectors for $50 with a limit of 2. Anyone who has completed Act 6 and done all the Cavalier EQ content (but not Abyss) and has had even marginal luck is close to a single T5c and could have used one or more of those deals—without ever buying any other T5c deals—to form a full T5c. If you bought every single T5c selector offer, I suspect you might even be to form a full T5c without even doing any Cav EQ content or Abyss. With that in mind, it is hard for me to see how the TB/R3 requirement is anything more than arbitrary. Third: I had low to no expectations. And still I was disappointed. That’s quite an accomplishment. Dr. Zola So......people made an assumption and it was their fault? That about it?That IS the requirement. You can justify it however you like, but that's what's required for the Title. Those are the markers. The proverbial lines in the sand. In this case, those that have an R3 and have completed Act 6, and those that haven't. You might think it's arbitrary, but necessary it remains. Not sure how the point got lost, but I think we were talking about the offers and how they were promoted. My point is that not only did the team appear to suggest their offers would help progression, but that even the arguments made regarding the sanctity of progression titles are undermined by efforts to monetize them. I’m guessing from reactions to said offers—here and elsewhere—that I’m not alone in my interpretation. Dr. Zola Nowhere did they say the Offers would get people to Thronebreaker. That was an assumption people made. Understand when they bring another tier level you would automatically assume they would try and make the most money off of it. So everyone had the right to assume that T5CC would’ve been apart of the Cav deals!! Guess you don’t understand that🤷♂️🤷♂️ Every Cav player who was going to spend hoped on 25% T5 selector to become TB...but all we really received was Kabam Love
How did I know this would come? Lol. @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet? I am. The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption. This would be a part of why people expected that. The language is more than just suggestive of that notion. It’s fine that TB get sweet deals. But it’s totally not fine that the team decides to dump on other progression tiers. Progression titles in game have always seemed ad hoc, uneven and in some respects, self-serving, and this type of offer stratification reinforces that idea.Dr. Zola The Email said THIS is your chance. As in do it in time for the Sale. Which is why that was sent out before it dropped. Why can we always predict that people are going to complain about these things? It's not because we assume they will. It's because people put in double-time developing all kinds of expectations. Expectations inevitably lead to disappointment. Assuming they would include the means to hit Thronebreaker was just an assumption. Let's detach and look at it logically. Let's say they do include it. Then we have a large pocket of people who are at Thronebreaker, and much sooner down the road, we need another progression separator. Look at the availability of T5CCs. They're not going to open the flood gates all in one day. That's insanity, at the very least from a design standpoint. First: You apparently look at the email as if it were a PSA. I look at it as if it were a promo piece intended to stoke demand for in-game stuff during one of the game’s biggest revenue events. There was an entire thread surrounding this particular email and how the offers would be stratified. The team knew there was concern about the offers in general (because there always is around BF offers), and there was ample opportunity for any member of the team to make the points you are making prior to Black Friday. They didn’t, to my knowledge. Second: This is a for-profit phone game, not the Olympics. I’m tired of people talking about titles as if they are sacrosanct or involve some sort of act by the Papacy. They are not and they do not. I would guess that progression titles were more or less ginned up to sell more stuff—stuff that gets sold everywhere anyway. Just last week, they sold 10% T5c selectors for $50 with a limit of 2. Anyone who has completed Act 6 and done all the Cavalier EQ content (but not Abyss) and has had even marginal luck is close to a single T5c and could have used one or more of those deals—without ever buying any other T5c deals—to form a full T5c. If you bought every single T5c selector offer, I suspect you might even be to form a full T5c without even doing any Cav EQ content or Abyss. With that in mind, it is hard for me to see how the TB/R3 requirement is anything more than arbitrary. Third: I had low to no expectations. And still I was disappointed. That’s quite an accomplishment. Dr. Zola So......people made an assumption and it was their fault? That about it?That IS the requirement. You can justify it however you like, but that's what's required for the Title. Those are the markers. The proverbial lines in the sand. In this case, those that have an R3 and have completed Act 6, and those that haven't. You might think it's arbitrary, but necessary it remains. Not sure how the point got lost, but I think we were talking about the offers and how they were promoted. My point is that not only did the team appear to suggest their offers would help progression, but that even the arguments made regarding the sanctity of progression titles are undermined by efforts to monetize them. I’m guessing from reactions to said offers—here and elsewhere—that I’m not alone in my interpretation. Dr. Zola Nowhere did they say the Offers would get people to Thronebreaker. That was an assumption people made. Understand when they bring another tier level you would automatically assume they would try and make the most money off of it. So everyone had the right to assume that T5CC would’ve been apart of the Cav deals!! Guess you don’t understand that🤷♂️🤷♂️