Kabam what kind of deal is this ? Majority players in this game are cavalier then thronebreakers . By giving this trash deals on cyber Monday you lost big sales . People who got the rewards on July 4th and after that lot of them try to become cavalier for this day . thronebreaker requirement specially to have one 6* r3 it’s not that easy . So yeah there is lot of cavalier . Trash deal . Really disappointing. Ty kabam for making huge difference between cavalier and thronebreaker in one game .
After waiting for this event for months. Waiting to get items I need to help with my 6* characters to get the Thronebreaker title. I made a couple of purchases. Not as much as in the past because the options weren’t great this year. No Cat5 of any kind which was weird... Then I see what Thronebreaker summoners are offered and I’m upset. After playing for 5 years I’m having a difficult time reasoning why I should stay. Those of us that are Cavalier you didn’t give us a reason to want to continue. I’ll give Kabam until it’s birthday in December to fix this and make it right for Cavaliers.
Disrespectful offering for cavs. 1x 6* nexus for more than TB's pay for 3? 5% and 10% random T5C, not selectors? No full T5B? Do kabam think cavs are just crazy for those 5* shards so we can dupe another useless champ? Honestly don't know what they were thinking. It comes across as they've decided cav are second class players and don't deserve good offers. If this was meant to make me spend to reach TB for next July 4th i can confirm it had the opposite effect.
There's so much good feedback in here but I can't imagine Kabam recovering from this. Even if they do give out a free 10% T5CC selector to all Cavs, I suspect a large majority of them will no longer spend units or money on offers. Shame.
You are right, I always get the Summoner Sigil and the monthly unit deal but after this I won't be getting that and going strictly FtP.
My 2 cents (or actually ~450 dollars worth since that's what doing this would have gained Kabam from me). Last year I was uncollected and wanted to be Cavalier. I spent a couple hundred on the Black Friday sale as Uncollected in order to make the progression and then spent a couple hundred on the Cavalier deals. I had a great year playing as Cavalier and now I'm in the same boat a year later with wanting to progress to Thronebreaker and was in the same position to spend this weekend to make this happen. And like every other Cavalier looking at these deals I'm thinking if spending for progression is off the table this year then what the heck is my motivation to spend anything to keep having fun doing what I'm ALREADY having fun doing? Kabam seems to have gone out of their way to ensure that every deal is worthless to the person who has been Cavalier for awhile and ready for the next step. We already have the 5* rosters to beat the necessary content we just need that R3 6 star. So I don't get why they thought that population will spend on these deals and I also don't get why they thought that population was small enough to ignore. I wouldn't be surprised if that's most of their player base that spends significantly at holidays but doesn't whale out on a daily basis.
I saved up units for this deal thinking it will be worth it and actually it's not. I'm Cavalier and the unit deals is mostly worse than joe fixit store side event rewards......
It‘s also anoying that almost everyone is only complaining about cavalier offers. The unit offers for tb sucked big time as well. I‘m f2p and its hard enough to keep track with spending Players, without mountains rolled into my way
I’ve never commented on the forums but here we go..
I’m one of the cavalier players that feels betrayed by the BF deals. While I expected the differences between Cavalier and Throne breaker to be day and night as they are I also expected Kabam to be willing to help those who are close to TB to make the jump. If anything because most of us would double dip on the Cavalier offers as well as the TB offers.
For those who claim the offers for Cavaliers are fair because kabam is taking a “you can’t buy your way in”. Shall I remind you that for the last 30 days we have had at least 4 t5cc offers out which prove otherwise. This is a pay to win game and I’m ok with that if you are not you are playing the wrong game.
What am I not ok with is the lack of transparency I held on not buying those t5cc offers because I was expecting something better for the biggest sale of the year. For those who will say you chose not to buy them, you are right and that’s why I’m still cavalier with less than 12% left to form a t5cc. I chose not to buy them and I paid the price like many others. This doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to feel betrayed by a company most of us have supported for years. There were several threads on the forum about these past t5cc offer with many comments saying held for Black Friday. I wish they had been more transparent with a statement claiming it might be very difficult to make the transition during the BF deals. Again it’s their right to keep offers secret but its our right to be disappointed by them.
What’s the solution to all this?, well is very simple. Kabam has done this in the past they have a patent and the technology to do targeted offers. Choose those who are close to become Throne breakers and throw us a bone. I get is too late to submit another sale to Google or Apple during these shopping times but you could do a unit offer, hey people might even buy the terrible deals just to get the units.
I’m trying to convince myself of reasons why I should continue playing this game and one of them is the believe that the company behind the game I have spent so much time has my back.
OK EVERYONE, AS THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS THREAD, I AM AS UPSET AS ANYONE, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD UP THE OFFERS WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN (within reason) btw sorry for shouting but at the moment it’s just a lot of voices not working together!
Easy - take the Fourth of July offer structure (choosing between a 5-star focus and a 6-star focus) and make them about 10% better. Add a few percents to the t5cc, extra shards or whatever.
Even the sig stones in this deal were worse because the singles have to be used immediately while +5 can be saved.
Kabam will do nothing in this. Just look at YT. Everyone that matters there is a Whale and are spending lots to open multiple nexus crystals and that’s all the marketing Kabam need. They will still make a lot of money.... so see this for what it is. The company has clearly declared how they look at some of their player base and that won’t change.
Kudos to @BrianGrant for his video, as a ftp account he knows how we feel.
Game and players need to be in symbiosis. The ftp might not give profit but are still important because having a big player base counts in the long run....
Kabam showed middle finger to all those cavalier who inspire to throne breaker title....their thrust for money is reaching new heights everyday..there r also games like dragon Ball legends which is based on rng ..but they never screwed their FTP players the way kabam did on this cyber weekend .....I wasted my 15000 units on **** deals got shafted badly... They did not gave me a single 5* champ whom I can take to r5 forget about 6*.....I opened 3 6* and it was far worse opening..got mordo, invisible woman n beyond beyond god tier Terrax......I want to use many adjectives to kabam but then I control myself for the sake of language we should be using while criticising...
Sorry kabam, but you really really screwed up big time with these cavalier cyber weekend deals. If anything you will make less money because it’s not easy to achieve thronebreaker title. I personally know about 50 people that did not and won’t get the cavalier deals...that’s about $30,000...now imagine how many more people decided not to get the cavalier deals. Kabam, you just told us you don’t care about cavalier players and don’t want our money which is perfectly fine with me because I just saved around $600. We don’t know exactly how many people play mcoc globally, but let’s say 1,000 people wouldn’t get the cavalier deals...it would really hurt if my company loses over half a million $$$. You just gave one more reason to all these players that use game mods, buy illegal units or look for mercs so they could get through content, to keep doing so and I wouldn’t blame them, kabam. Just keep in mind that all that money you are losing right now, a lot of mercs are getting it instead. That’s just my personal thought. We’re all ears to what you have to say, kabam...
I think we're already (not) hearing it. Hiding and hoping things blow over doesn't make sounds. To be fair, that might be drowned out by TB guys in LINE chats and my alliance complaining about T5CC going to stash and how few great champs they got from each of their absurd number of 6 star openings.
A lot of cavalier players who have already completed act 6 will be taking a break from this game. These offers are an insult.
Whilst I agree that the difference between Cav and TB deals was too wide and Cav players should have had access to more T5CC and 6* shards, calling then an insult and suggesting this as a reason for taking a break is way out of perspective.
You still get the extra items with the units so the value of that unit pack is already greatly enhanced and Kabam have no obligation to offer any form of deal.
If you don’t like them then don’t buy them, if your sick of the game then take a break/stop playing but to suggest that “A lot” of others will stop playing with this as the sole rationale is pretty spurious argument
For me Kabam has dropped the uncollectable .. How do you want to have a 6r3 if you give me 0% for the riders after this difficult year I find it .. i have no word.. uncollected are forgot by Kabam .. Thank’s You ...
Uninspired was the term someone used for this year’s offers. That’s pretty spot on.
I’ll add an out-of-the-box package that could have caused me to take a second look: a 4* rankup/max sig offer aimed at Cavs for the 4* Challenge solo objectives.
I’ve got tons of max 4*’s—most of which are oldish—and I hate wasting any resources on 4* in general unless it’s to top off for Level Up milestones. While 4/40 4* are usually more than enough to knock out the 4* Cav EQ challenge objectives, in some cases having a more current 4* at 5/50 or even 4/40 would provide better counters than an older 4*.
It’s not game breaking or something I’d drop a lot of cash or units on, but inclusion of thoughtful offers in that vein would at least suggest some level of understanding of how many veteran/Cav/higher end Summoners play the game.
With all the available game data and plenty of feedback online (some useful and lots not so much), formulating useful, profitable in-game deals shouldn’t be difficult.
Seems that you guys are so far away from being throne breakers. I don’t blame you for saying what you are saying. Everyone’s situation is different and everyone has completed different content.
Cavalier offer is not providing anything interesting for cavalier except a bit of six stars shards. The gap with big accounts and thronebrakers would become bigger and bigger. It feels bad.
Uninspired was the term someone used for this year’s offers. That’s pretty spot on.
I’ll add an out-of-the-box package that could have caused me to take a second look: a 4* rankup/max sig offer aimed at Cavs for the 4* Challenge solo objectives.
I’ve got tons of max 4*’s—most of which are oldish—and I hate wasting any resources on 4* in general unless it’s to top off for Level Up milestones. While 4/40 4* are usually more than enough to knock out the 4* Cav EQ challenge objectives, in some cases having a more current 4* at 5/50 or even 4/40 would provide better counters than an older 4*.
It’s not game breaking or something I’d drop a lot of cash or units on, but inclusion of thoughtful offers in that vein would at least suggest some level of understanding of how many veteran/Cav/higher end Summoners play the game.
With all the available game data and plenty of feedback online (some useful and lots not so much), formulating useful, profitable in-game deals shouldn’t be difficult.
Dr. Zola
Whooooosh!!!
Whist I understand your reasoning in this request I think it's an extremely dangerous thing to be asking.
It's clear as day what they think of Cavs now. We don't need them tailoring deals or rewards to us in form of 4* resources buddy! With the excuse of that solo Objective in mind.
Personally I've skipped 2 out of 3 of those so far so I'd be reeeeeally pissed to be getting more 4* focused things than we already get.
Again, I understand where you're coming from but kbm would be highly unlikely to throw this as an addition on top of things we dedperately need. Rather they'd make this part of the focus.
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Then I see what Thronebreaker summoners are offered and I’m upset. After playing for 5 years I’m having a difficult time reasoning why I should stay. Those of us that are Cavalier you didn’t give us a reason to want to continue. I’ll give Kabam until it’s birthday in December to fix this and make it right for Cavaliers.
I'm Cavalier and the unit deals is mostly worse than joe fixit store side event rewards......
I’m one of the cavalier players that feels betrayed by the BF deals. While I expected the differences between Cavalier and Throne breaker to be day and night as they are I also expected Kabam to be willing to help those who are close to TB to make the jump. If anything because most of us would double dip on the Cavalier offers as well as the TB offers.
For those who claim the offers for Cavaliers are fair because kabam is taking a “you can’t buy your way in”. Shall I remind you that for the last 30 days we have had at least 4 t5cc offers out which prove otherwise. This is a pay to win game and I’m ok with that if you are not you are playing the wrong game.
What am I not ok with is the lack of transparency I held on not buying those t5cc offers because I was expecting something better for the biggest sale of the year. For those who will say you chose not to buy them, you are right and that’s why I’m still cavalier with less than 12% left to form a t5cc. I chose not to buy them and I paid the price like many others. This doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to feel betrayed by a company most of us have supported for years. There were several threads on the forum about these past t5cc offer with many comments saying held for Black Friday. I wish they had been more transparent with a statement claiming it might be very difficult to make the transition during the BF deals. Again it’s their right to keep offers secret but its our right to be disappointed by them.
What’s the solution to all this?, well is very simple. Kabam has done this in the past they have a patent and the technology to do targeted offers. Choose those who are close to become Throne breakers and throw us a bone. I get is too late to submit another sale to Google or Apple during these shopping times but you could do a unit offer, hey people might even buy the terrible deals just to get the units.
I’m trying to convince myself of reasons why I should continue playing this game and one of them is the believe that the company behind the game I have spent so much time has my back.
I sincerely hope you rectify this.
Even the sig stones in this deal were worse because the singles have to be used immediately while +5 can be saved.
Just look at YT. Everyone that matters there is a Whale and are spending lots to open multiple nexus crystals and that’s all the marketing Kabam need. They will still make a lot of money....
so see this for what it is. The company has clearly declared how they look at some of their player base and that won’t change.
Kudos to @BrianGrant for his video, as a ftp account he knows how we feel.
Game and players need to be in symbiosis. The ftp might not give profit but are still important because having a big player base counts in the long run....
I find the deals very underwhelming, doesn't mean I'm taking a break
You still get the extra items with the units so the value of that unit pack is already greatly enhanced and Kabam have no obligation to offer any form of deal.
If you don’t like them then don’t buy them, if your sick of the game then take a break/stop playing but to suggest that “A lot” of others will stop playing with this as the sole rationale is pretty spurious argument
I’ll add an out-of-the-box package that could have caused me to take a second look: a 4* rankup/max sig offer aimed at Cavs for the 4* Challenge solo objectives.
I’ve got tons of max 4*’s—most of which are oldish—and I hate wasting any resources on 4* in general unless it’s to top off for Level Up milestones. While 4/40 4* are usually more than enough to knock out the 4* Cav EQ challenge objectives, in some cases having a more current 4* at 5/50 or even 4/40 would provide better counters than an older 4*.
It’s not game breaking or something I’d drop a lot of cash or units on, but inclusion of thoughtful offers in that vein would at least suggest some level of understanding of how many veteran/Cav/higher end Summoners play the game.
With all the available game data and plenty of feedback online (some useful and lots not so much), formulating useful, profitable in-game deals shouldn’t be difficult.
Dr. Zola
Whist I understand your reasoning in this request I think it's an extremely dangerous thing to be asking.
It's clear as day what they think of Cavs now. We don't need them tailoring deals or rewards to us in form of 4* resources buddy! With the excuse of that solo Objective in mind.
Personally I've skipped 2 out of 3 of those so far so I'd be reeeeeally pissed to be getting more 4* focused things than we already get.
Again, I understand where you're coming from but kbm would be highly unlikely to throw this as an addition on top of things we dedperately need. Rather they'd make this part of the focus.