Ghost any good without Antman or Wasp ??

Does Ghost need synergy to be great at all or she can do good without synergies ??

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There are next to no situations where you have to hit the opponent and her playstyle is easily adjustable when it is needed. There are so, SO many more situations where not touching the opponent is needed. Quake rarely takes any debuffs because of 100% AAR and not making any contact, plus she also has 100% evade counter uptime.

Rockypantherx

Automatic lock is super good. Really Pun 99, Doc oc and CGR (with Pun99 synergy) have access to it. Doc oc obviously does it best

Kill_Grey

Brute force? Lifecycle? Etc? 🧐

Rockypantherx

Brute force I’ll give you. Lifecycle I thinks she can actually do, but don’t quote me on that. Regardless, there are many, many more nodes and abilities that trigger off of hit rather than non hit

SpideyFunko

“Most situations”

lifecycle is a breeze, just throw in heavies while they’re stunned. It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience.

Artoria77

Definitely, this is ghost we are talking about.
I don't have ant Man or wasp above 4 stars so I've trained myself to play her without synegies.
The wasp synegy is more a QOL thing

Kill_Grey

Well, P 99 doesn't counter passive power gain, lol. I'm not sure about CGR either. But with the way fights like improved power gain doctor strange plagues the hardest of content in the game, it's really shows how useful doc ock is in actuality. Under those sort of scenarios, you can't readily fill bars of power with Magik or doctor Doom. Variant 3 power gain path is a prime example.

Etjama

Let a couple heavies go and Quake laughs at Life Cycle. And are you choosing to ignore the countless amount of nodes where you benefit from not making contact and suffer from making contact?

Kill_Grey

I'm not denying that they're nodes that punish contact as well, but I'm also saying that Kabam seems to find a way to balance that by creating nodes that function the opposite.

Rockypantherx

I meant through their sigs. They automatically lock the opponent for around 2-5 seconds if they hit 3 bars of power. Only automatic power manipulation outside of doc oc I think

Kill_Grey

Oh right, I forgot about that lol. Problem is when it expires for any reason, and for the fact that the opponents actually have to go to a bar of power, lol.

Rockypantherx

Oh absolutely. Never said it was good, just that it exists. Doc oc has that covered, even if I’m not doc ocs biggest fan

Kill_Grey

Well, doc ock is still the absolute MVP for improved power gain paths especially for the ones that appear in variants. I really missed that piece of utility when I was Exploring the final quest of variant 5. Had to use my rank 3 5* Magik for the doctor strange, and it was a lucky oneshot because he actually threw his specials.

As for the mephisto and Terrax, God alone knows how people did those two without Claire.

Kill_Grey

Okay so...since we're using class disadvantage as a point of comparison, you wanna overlook the amount of skill champs that automatically counter evade? Hit monkey, OG black widow, night thrasher, etc suddenly don't exist anymore?

Kill_Grey

Well, how about YOU show me difficult versions of the champs you mentioned. Mind you that Aarkus also counters Quake, so that invalidates his essence in this argument.

JueVioleGrace

A Ghost vs Quake thread in disguise I see.

Kill_Grey

You're telling me you Quaked a champ on buffed up? Wow, that's so crazy! I assume you also sacrificed 3 slots to bring Heimdall synergies to make her usable there. Good luck doing that in act 6 when you add in the factor of RNG (getting the synergy champs), and actually not having to waste team slots on champs that wouldn't otherwise help you on that particular path, among other things.

On another note, go Quake the black widow in labyrinth and tell me how it goes.

Iryse

I have a quake too and i am nowhere near to her playing style, so I dont consider her to max out but ghost is okayish in my style so had to ask everyone. If you dont know quake, it diesnt matter even if shes better than ghost coz u cant play her. So, dont misinterpret my discussion.

Kill_Grey

Seems I forgot to mention agent venom.

Realm_Of_Rah

I think we can all agree that the stuff Ghost and Quake can both do, Ghost does much better in a more efficient and entertaining manner.

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JueVioleGrace

What? I wasn't even talking about you, not once did I mention Quake being better or not nor did I asked for your ability to either of the champions, I was simply pointing to the fact that this thread had turned into Ghost vs Quake. You can keep your half-baked insults to yourself because I can play both of them.

Will3808

Ghost doesn’t need antman or wasp. Wasp makes throwing specials easier and more consistent if she’s your main path clearer. You should only take antman on the team if you don’t need the spot at all.

Agent_X_zzz

Quake is #1 best champ in game, but ghost is #2 with or without syn, hood is her best syn by far

Realm_Of_Rah

You're saying that like Ghost isn't a lane clearing champion and a more common option for LoL in general

Tiger360

Agreed on both points

Hey would you look at that, we can agree on 1 thing, but I hard disagree with your second point so it’s a lol from me too

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Thicco_Mode

There are situations where ghost doesnt work either lol

Realm_Of_Rah

Ghost doesn't counter problem fights???

Kill_Grey

You wanna discuss labyrinth? I don't have time for such shenanigans. But if you wanna go that route, why don't we do a contest to see which one doesn't get ruined by the enrage timer? Let's see which one can handle Doctor strange, rhino, agent Venom, etc better.

And yes, ghost can Solo entire lanes as well. Ending with full health and doing it much faster and with as much, if not more efficiency.

Tiger360

Aright mate calm down saying their far apart is just false, if you can argue which is better then they aren’t far apart at all. Saying Thor rag vs quake is far apart, but ghost vs quake nah because it can be argued which is better than which and it doesn’t matter how much content you’ve done because your wallet doesn’t count as experience