Cyber Weekend Sales Feedback [Merged Threads]

Stark154667

At least there’s no real temptation to gamble my life away!

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Realm_Of_Rah

Its amazing how Uncollected guys got more t5b than cavs

GroundedWisdom

What is the immediate and game changing effect of reaching Thronebreaker, and why exactly would it have been so terrible to have a flood of new TB summoners? Is there a secret quest with amazing account progressing rewards that I'm unaware of that is locked behind the title?
All you have to do is look at the complaints with Cav EQ and people struggling to find options for something as simple as buffed up or disstrack to see the problem with having overly watered down progression titles capturing too broad a range of players
They actually made it easier to reach Thronebreaker and people are still arguing it.
By putting RNG based 10% crystals in the sotre for 100$ each? Yea, no.

No. By making the requirements much lower than what they had intended originally.

TyEdge

What is the immediate and game changing effect of reaching Thronebreaker, and why exactly would it have been so terrible to have a flood of new TB summoners? Is there a secret quest with amazing account progressing rewards that I'm unaware of that is locked behind the title?

Right. Having this be a 10% title instead of a 1% title is far more equitable. We’re a map6 alliance around 400 million points. I think we have 3 TB players but any lower than us, that number is almost always 0 or 1.

Scholia

@GroundedWisdom don’t forget we are talking about players who beat act 6 already and earned the title. No one is asking you to sell the title. Just remove that silly RNG based six star R3 requirement from the throne Breaker title that makes no sense.
It makes absolute sense, especially after they toned down Act 6.
It’s nice to have a job where you can sit all day and do nothing but post nonsense.
Glad you enjoy your work.
I think you misunderstood. He means you. 95% certain on that..

You do realize I'm aware, right?

I didn’t actually. I thought I’d spell it out for ya because, at best, you say some stupid stuff.

Nick_Caine_32

What is the immediate and game changing effect of reaching Thronebreaker, and why exactly would it have been so terrible to have a flood of new TB summoners? Is there a secret quest with amazing account progressing rewards that I'm unaware of that is locked behind the title?
All you have to do is look at the complaints with Cav EQ and people struggling to find options for something as simple as buffed up or disstrack to see the problem with having overly watered down progression titles capturing too broad a range of players
They actually made it easier to reach Thronebreaker and people are still arguing it.
By putting RNG based 10% crystals in the sotre for 100$ each? Yea, no.
No. By making the requirements much lower than what they had intended originally.

So you’re ok with comparing what the original requirements could have been on the title, but others comparing what the offers this weekend were to 4th of July are out of line? 😂

Your logic and reasoning skills are wildly oscillating on this thread. Maybe you can get a title for goalpost mover.

GroundedWisdom

What is the immediate and game changing effect of reaching Thronebreaker, and why exactly would it have been so terrible to have a flood of new TB summoners? Is there a secret quest with amazing account progressing rewards that I'm unaware of that is locked behind the title?
All you have to do is look at the complaints with Cav EQ and people struggling to find options for something as simple as buffed up or disstrack to see the problem with having overly watered down progression titles capturing too broad a range of players
They actually made it easier to reach Thronebreaker and people are still arguing it.
By putting RNG based 10% crystals in the sotre for 100$ each? Yea, no.
No. By making the requirements much lower than what they had intended originally.
So you’re ok with comparing what the original requirements could have been on the title, but others comparing what the offers this weekend were to 4th of July are out of line? 😂

Your logic and reasoning skills are wildly oscillating on this thread. Maybe you can get a title for goalpost mover.

If you're going to make an argument, try not to stretch so much. I said the two Sales aren't related to each other.
Pointing out that the Title is much easier than it was originally intended is a direct comparison. It would have been aimed at people who had many R3s, after doing the original iteration of Act 7, before it was neutered. We all saw how pleasant of an experience that would have been.
Comparing the price of apples doesn't contradict comparing the price of apples versus oranges.

Roguefrogger13

I don't comment on these threads a lot but as soon as I saw the offers on Friday I was like wait a minute I think the offers on July 4th were better what the H is going on. Then I took the time to look through my screenshots all the way back to July and I proved myself correct. What happened? Allow me to give you my Outlook on the events as they unfolded.
1 You release a new title into the game, thronebreaker, and two months later you add offers into the Black Friday deals for thronebreaker players that represent a very small percentage of your player base. This was ok and expected although giving us a heads up about this sooner would have been preferred as I'm sure some people would have put more effort into becoming thrown breaker before Black Friday had they known sooner.

2 Then, and this is where the problems start, when you were figuring out the offers themselves y'all decided to put the best stuff possible, taking into consideration the current meta of the game, into the thronebreaker offers. Did y'all stop to think that thronebreakers represent a very small percentage of your player base because it's only been available for two months? And right before the holidays 😑. Yeah because everybody has so much free time this time of year, Smh 🙄.

3 now here's where the proverbial you know what hit the fan. When you came to the point where you were figuring out the offers for cavalier you did not take into consideration that these are the players that are trying to become thrown breaker and that cavalier players make up the majority of your player base. Meaning that most of the current players in the game are at the cavalier level. Instead of filling the offers with resources that would have aided players in acquiring the thronebreaker title y'all downgraded them (didn't improve them, I'm sorry but y'all dropped the ball) when compared to the offers we received on July 4th. Back in July the difference in the offers between uncollected and cavalier was drastic but most players were cavalier by that point so you were catering to the majority of your player base. That stopped this past Friday and everyone took notice except your marketing team 🤨

4 A lot of players that spend in this game, especially the part of your player base that doesn't have a lot of free time, rely on these offers to help advance their accounts so they can knock out personal content and better help their teammates in group content. On July 4th I'd say IMO my account was advanced a giant leap because of the offers presented that weekend. They allowed me to struggle a lot less in the group content and helped me clear a bunch of personal content. I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this but also not sorry, the offers presented this past Friday did not help advance my account. I received far less six star hero crystal shards. You completely removed them from the $50 unit offers 🤣. I received far less rank up materials as far as rank up materials that I can use on any champion I have because the Odin offers were geared towards five star champions. I'm trying to rank up six stars not five stars. Why? Because I want the thronebreaker title.

5 Now let's talk about the actual act of spending on this game this past Friday and how it left everybody feeling that did spend money. Yeah I spent money in the unit store but I didn't spend as much as I usually do and I wasn't as happy to spend it. I felt like I had no choice but to buy it because this is what was going to be offered to me until July 4th and I felt I had to take what I could get. That leaves a salty taste in your mouth, it was a very unpleasant experience. Now let's move on to the unit offers. Again what were you thinking? Worthless, completely worthless. Most of your cavalier community completely skipped over them because in no way would they be worth the amount of units you're asking for them. Those offers aren't going to drastically advance my account and help me acquire the thronebreaker title. I don't know who was in charge of the actual unit offers but y'all need to hold a meeting with them.

now taking all of this into consideration I realize that you stated in the email that you sent everybody in the game before Black Friday that the offers would not be modified or changed throughout the weekend. I understand your position on this, but y'all backed to yourself into the corner on your own. However there's still a way out.

After the sale has concluded y'all need to get to work and look at everybody that bought the cavalier offers. Not the unit offers, I'm talking about the unit store offers. Hardly any of the community that's upset by this entire scenario bought those unit offers but a lot of us achingly and begrudgingly did buy the unit store offers. Once you've figured out who bought what y'all need to send out a reparations package based on what each player bought with an apology.

You can still make this right kabam, the ball is in your court. Don't let your fans down this time, were all watching and waiting.

DrZola

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.

I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola

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GroundedWisdom

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola

Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.

Etjama

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola
Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.

Sorry, but not only do I disagree with what you said, but you're just plain wrong. How dare speak as if you know for a fact what we were expecting. No one was happy with $100 for 10% of a random T5CC no matter what was expected.

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Texas_11

I see the issue when people compare 4th of July deals. The confusion was Kabam made that offer to benefit top tier players now known as “ thronebreaker ” and cavalier players alike. That was the issue they were facing as a company. someone who just beat the collector were able to get the rewards as someone who just 100% abyss. As a result the rewards became inflated because they were targeting a large audience. Cavalier players got spoiled with rewards designs for two groups. All Kabam did was separate them.

The T5cc deals are not very relevant. They are small usually 4500 a pop, unless you have a steady flow coming in, it won’t make or break your account.

Kabam has made it clear they want to separate the players and I’m sure they did this because cavalier players were able to progress significantly faster then what they should have been, next thing you know , you have players beating act 6 with R3 champs. You see this happening in older content where people are going into act 6.1 and even 100% act 5 with 2-3 5/65 champs. Once they get to the level of a true thronebreaker, they don’t have the skills to complete it.

We saw this happen with the champion boss and players quit. In order to progress the struggling cavalier players they actually nerfed the content to push more players into higher tier progression.

I guess my point is , cavalier players benefited a ton from top tier players because Kabam bundled deals.

GroundedWisdom

What is the immediate and game changing effect of reaching Thronebreaker, and why exactly would it have been so terrible to have a flood of new TB summoners? Is there a secret quest with amazing account progressing rewards that I'm unaware of that is locked behind the title?
All you have to do is look at the complaints with Cav EQ and people struggling to find options for something as simple as buffed up or disstrack to see the problem with having overly watered down progression titles capturing too broad a range of players
They actually made it easier to reach Thronebreaker and people are still arguing it.
By putting RNG based 10% crystals in the sotre for 100$ each? Yea, no.
No. By making the requirements much lower than what they had intended originally.
The initial requirements prolly would've been more easily excessable for less units! FLAWED argument

Doubtful. We don't know when in Act 7 it would be, and we saw the #### storm that came out of what people saw from the original plan.

Texas_11

I see the issue when people compare 4th of July deals. The confusion was Kabam made that offer to benefit top tier players now known as “ thronebreaker ” and cavalier players alike. That was the issue they were facing as a company. someone who just beat the collector were able to get the rewards as someone who just 100% abyss. As a result the rewards became inflated because they were targeting a large audience. Cavalier players got spoiled with rewards designs for two groups. All Kabam did was separate them.

The T5cc deals are not very relevant. They are small usually 4500 a pop, unless you have a steady flow coming in, it won’t make or break your account.

Kabam has made it clear they want to separate the players and I’m sure they did this because cavalier players were able to progress significantly faster then what they should have been, next thing you know , you have players beating act 6 with R3 champs. You see this happening in older content where people are going into act 6.1 and even 100% act 5 with 2-3 5/65 champs. Once they get to the level of a true thronebreaker, they don’t have the skills to complete it.

We saw this happen with the champion boss and players quit. In order to progress the struggling cavalier players they actually nerfed the content to push more players into higher tier progression.

I guess my point is , cavalier players benefited a ton from top tier players because Kabam bundled deals.
So you give them nothing of decent value when they are trying to get to the next tier? Great logic chief. Abyss it is.

You have to do abyss yes. At least a run through. They are probably looking at the most valuable resources for cav players , vs most valuable resources for TB. They are different.

Worknprogress

What is the immediate and game changing effect of reaching Thronebreaker, and why exactly would it have been so terrible to have a flood of new TB summoners? Is there a secret quest with amazing account progressing rewards that I'm unaware of that is locked behind the title?
All you have to do is look at the complaints with Cav EQ and people struggling to find options for something as simple as buffed up or disstrack to see the problem with having overly watered down progression titles capturing too broad a range of players
They actually made it easier to reach Thronebreaker and people are still arguing it.
By putting RNG based 10% crystals in the sotre for 100$ each? Yea, no.
No. By making the requirements much lower than what they had intended originally.
The initial requirements prolly would've been more easily excessable for less units! FLAWED argument

Unlikely. The initial requirements also included leaving Act 6 as it was originally and leaving Book 2 to as it was in the original beta. I hardly think that most the people up in arms about the TB title would be touching that content today. A whole lot of them never even made it through Act 6 once before the nerfs.

SatsuiNoHadou

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola
Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.

Why do you disagree? Please elaborate, I wanna see if your argument makes sense.

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GroundedWisdom

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola
Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.
Why do you disagree? Please elaborate, I wanna see if your argument makes sense.

Pretty sure the argument was made. We all know what people were aiming for and I'm not going to backtrack by debating whether that was the goal or not. People were waiting to hit TB with the Deals. Let's be real.

Worknprogress

I see the issue when people compare 4th of July deals. The confusion was Kabam made that offer to benefit top tier players now known as “ thronebreaker ” and cavalier players alike. That was the issue they were facing as a company. someone who just beat the collector were able to get the rewards as someone who just 100% abyss. As a result the rewards became inflated because they were targeting a large audience. Cavalier players got spoiled with rewards designs for two groups. All Kabam did was separate them.

The T5cc deals are not very relevant. They are small usually 4500 a pop, unless you have a steady flow coming in, it won’t make or break your account.

Kabam has made it clear they want to separate the players and I’m sure they did this because cavalier players were able to progress significantly faster then what they should have been, next thing you know , you have players beating act 6 with R3 champs. You see this happening in older content where people are going into act 6.1 and even 100% act 5 with 2-3 5/65 champs. Once they get to the level of a true thronebreaker, they don’t have the skills to complete it.

We saw this happen with the champion boss and players quit. In order to progress the struggling cavalier players they actually nerfed the content to push more players into higher tier progression.

I guess my point is , cavalier players benefited a ton from top tier players because Kabam bundled deals.

Basically what I said in a discord chat the other day. It didn't go over terribly well

Monk1

If don’t like the deals it’s simple.. don’t buy them

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Texas_11

I see the issue when people compare 4th of July deals. The confusion was Kabam made that offer to benefit top tier players now known as “ thronebreaker ” and cavalier players alike. That was the issue they were facing as a company. someone who just beat the collector were able to get the rewards as someone who just 100% abyss. As a result the rewards became inflated because they were targeting a large audience. Cavalier players got spoiled with rewards designs for two groups. All Kabam did was separate them.

The T5cc deals are not very relevant. They are small usually 4500 a pop, unless you have a steady flow coming in, it won’t make or break your account.

Kabam has made it clear they want to separate the players and I’m sure they did this because cavalier players were able to progress significantly faster then what they should have been, next thing you know , you have players beating act 6 with R3 champs. You see this happening in older content where people are going into act 6.1 and even 100% act 5 with 2-3 5/65 champs. Once they get to the level of a true thronebreaker, they don’t have the skills to complete it.

We saw this happen with the champion boss and players quit. In order to progress the struggling cavalier players they actually nerfed the content to push more players into higher tier progression.

I guess my point is , cavalier players benefited a ton from top tier players because Kabam bundled deals.
Basically what I said in a discord chat the other day. It didn't go over terribly well

It’s just people bought their way to where they are now , and hardly done act 6. No need. Kabam can’t make the game better if they have such a large target audience

Aaronc94

Kabam is doing things so wrong.... the first error was to add a 6* r3 as the requirement for Thronebreaker title, it would've been fairer to give it for those players who explored 100% act 6, we've seen so many high skilled players with act 6 100% without a r3 because of RNG, the second error is that with this year cyber weekend deals, they made the gap between Cavalier and Thronebreaker players inmensive!, is a big disappoinment, the third error is that they're making their community angrier time after time, with those arrogant answers, is always the same story... they say "we understand you all, we'll take all your feedback to avoid this errors in the future", but guess what? they keep making them, there'll be a time when players will prefer to quit the game

SatsuiNoHadou

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola
Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.
Why do you disagree? Please elaborate, I wanna see if your argument makes sense.
Pretty sure the argument was made. We all know what people were aiming for and I'm not going to backtrack by debating whether that was the goal or not. People were waiting to hit TB with the Deals. Let's be real.

Personally were you one of those hoping to hit throne breaker through these offers?

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GroundedWisdom

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola
Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.
Why do you disagree? Please elaborate, I wanna see if your argument makes sense.
Pretty sure the argument was made. We all know what people were aiming for and I'm not going to backtrack by debating whether that was the goal or not. People were waiting to hit TB with the Deals. Let's be real.
Personally were you one of those hoping to hit throne breaker through these offers?

I need the Cats more than most people here. Still doesn't change the need to regulate what's made available. What I want and what's best for the game are two totally different things at times.

GroundedWisdom

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola
Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.
Why do you disagree? Please elaborate, I wanna see if your argument makes sense.
Pretty sure the argument was made. We all know what people were aiming for and I'm not going to backtrack by debating whether that was the goal or not. People were waiting to hit TB with the Deals. Let's be real.
Personally were you one of those hoping to hit throne breaker through these offers?
I need the Cats more than most people here. Still doesn't change the need to regulate what's made available. What I want and what's best for the game are two totally different things at times.
Hypocrit much? Jk. But you could've gotten a good boost otw to TB had you and the other spenders not gotten neglected do hard.

I'm not a hypocrite. I just have the ability to separate what I need and want from the reasoning behind things.

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SatsuiNoHadou

Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.
Gifting event says hi
People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
"Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
are just jokes..

Money >>>>>>>> Skill
120 people will get significant Rewards in terms of T5CCs from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
I keep seeing multiple comments where you seem to raise this straw man of “people wanted to get TB all at once this weekend.”

I doubt that’s the case. Few, if any, people are proposing that Cavs should have been able to buy a full T5c (or even most of one) this weekend. To the contrary, most posts I’ve seen appreciate the notion of incrementalism.

Put that way, it’s likely more than 120 players, but it doesn’t translate into the droves of players buying their way to TB this weekend you are implying.

Since you’re into game balance, I assume you’re upset TBs—even freshly minted ones who just crawled (or bought their way) over the line—were able to whale out this weekend with hordes of 6* crystals at a ~1/3 discount versus lower progression tiers. The sheer volume of new 6*’s let loose in the game this weekend is probably fairly staggering.

Dr. Zola
Sorry, I disagree with that. If all people wanted was SOME T5CCs, they would have been happy with what was offered. The expectation was to hit Thronebreaker this weekend.
Why do you disagree? Please elaborate, I wanna see if your argument makes sense.
Pretty sure the argument was made. We all know what people were aiming for and I'm not going to backtrack by debating whether that was the goal or not. People were waiting to hit TB with the Deals. Let's be real.
Personally were you one of those hoping to hit throne breaker through these offers?
I need the Cats more than most people here. Still doesn't change the need to regulate what's made available. What I want and what's best for the game are two totally different things at times.

Seeing as you’re on the brink of TB, awesome deals or sub par deals wouldn’t make a difference to you, your skill should pull you through to the next level like what they did for me a year ago.

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