Why are people so adamant about judging champions before we have to time to actually test them

Sungj · December 2020

Like seriously, so many people are already saying how bad the new daredevil buff is and also many people saying its great. He's literally been out for a few hours, he may actually be bad, he may actually be great but we literally don't have enough information to make a call either way. Let's give it a few days, let some content creators and community members take him to rank five, learn the optimal rotations and niche uses for him in end game content then come to a conclusion.

Remember when people thought the OML buff was equal to if not better than the colossus buff? Or how about in the first hulkbuster buff livestream people thought he was straight garbage because they didn't know about the SP2, heavy rotation yet. We need to take more time to test champions before stating a definitive opinion

Masterpuff · December 2020

I cant test him. He kills himself too quickly to get any testing in with suicides. That says enough for me.

Austin555555 · December 2020

They judge them because it’s not a character they like. Most champs added this year have been looked at like a joke and turned out pretty good.

TheHoodedDormammu · December 2020

Yes, I played terribly and did not use his best rotation but 208 hits for a r5...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2eyauNj6I&t=200s

Demonzfyre · December 2020

Also because every champ has to be god tier and every champ should be suicide friendly. I don't know what makes people think DD should be suicide friendly in the first place. But again, I haven't really looked over all of the new kit but this is the biggest complaint i've seen.

Sungj · December 2020

Arsoz said:
Cmon dawg if your trash against rol newly buffed thats sad

People said the same thing with Hulkbuster and colossus, even warlock to a certain extent my dude. I'm not saying he's not bad, I'm just saying we should wait until people figure out his ideal damage rotation first before calling it

Demonzfyre · December 2020

TheHoodedDormammu said:
Yes, I played terribly and did not use his best rotation but 208 hits for a r5...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2eyauNj6I&t=200s

Seatin just did it in 154 hits.

Sungj · December 2020

TheHoodedDormammu said:
Yes, I played terribly and did not use his best rotation but 208 hits for a r5...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2eyauNj6I&t=200s

These are some comments on early Warlock videos on youtube. Obviously I don't think daredevil will be on the level of warlock but early gameplay impressions can be deceiving

WRIR · December 2020

Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.

J0eySn0w · December 2020

Sungj said:
Like seriously, so many people are already saying how bad the new daredevil buff is and also many people saying its great. He's literally been out for a few hours, he may actually be bad, he may actually be great but we literally don't have enough information to make a call either way. Let's give it a few days, let some content creators and community members take him to rank five, learn the optimal rotations and niche uses for him in end game content then come to a conclusion.

Remember when people thought the OML buff was equal to if not better than the colossus buff? Or how about in the first hulkbuster buff livestream people thought he was straight garbage because they didn't know about the SP2, heavy rotation yet. We need to take more time to test champions before stating a definitive opinion

Not everyone pal. I knew Colossus was better. In fact I reached to a content creator with a huge following on YT (won’t mention name) about Colossus. He said he’s okay and not worth a generic. But I used my generic AG on him anyways cos I was satisfied with the numbers even unduped. I advocated people check out Col in my ally.

Hells Kitchen numbers are bad. It’s underwhelming considering he’s a 2020 buffed champ. And his regen thing is shocking, he’d be OP without the reduction? That’s ridiculous, I don’t think they tested anytime

TheHoodedDormammu · December 2020

Demonzfyre said:

TheHoodedDormammu said:
Yes, I played terribly and did not use his best rotation but 208 hits for a r5...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2eyauNj6I&t=200s
Seatin just did it in 154 hits.

I did not use synergies and my r5 Daredevil is unduped

GoddessIlias · December 2020

Judge champs after playing them for yourself, who cares what other people say. Seatin said when heimdall came out he was “the foundations of a meta-shattering character”. Lagacy said moleman would be a skill Corvus. Conversely, people slept on champs such as warlock and ghost because it wasn’t immediately obvious what their bright spots and optimal playstyle were. My only point is, the best person to say what champs you enjoy playing and ranking is yourself.

Texas_11 · December 2020

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.

1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.

WRIR · December 2020

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.

1. If you're balanced and everyone else is OP, you're lacking.
2. Damage isn't everything. But its a FIGHTING GAME. Damage is important.
3.
4.It doesn't seem like hos kit is deep enough for there to be any true hidden potential.

Texas_11 · December 2020

WRIR said:

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.
1. If you're balanced and everyone else is OP, you're lacking.
2. Damage isn't everything. But its a FIGHTING GAME. Damage is important.
3.
4.It doesn't seem like hos kit is deep enough for there to be any true hidden potential.

1.) Tech, cosmic, science mystic , are all heavy at the top. Mutant and skill are nice all around.

2.) Some of the best champions in the game aren’t even known for their damage it’s their utility. Doom, warlock, nick fury (good damage )

4.) We will have to see with him being an hour out after release don’t you think?

Texas_11 · December 2020

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.

How am I getting disagrees on this? Is skill not the most balanced in game?

Will he not have a purpose?

He came out an hour ago! How can we know right away?

WRIR · December 2020

Texas_11 said:

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.
How am I getting disagrees on this? Is skill not the most balanced in game?

Will he not have a purpose?

He came out an hour ago! How can we know right away?

Do you have him? Have YOU tried him? People are speaking from experience, which have apparently been negative. Mine hasn't been negative necessarily, but like to the point where I'm going to rather rank other champs and leave DD as is in his rank 2 state, as well as not pump stones into him because he looks and feels bad.

Texas_11 · December 2020

WRIR said:

Texas_11 said:

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.
How am I getting disagrees on this? Is skill not the most balanced in game?

Will he not have a purpose?

He came out an hour ago! How can we know right away?
Do you have him? Have YOU tried him? People are speaking from experience, which have apparently been negative. Mine hasn't been negative necessarily, but like to the point where I'm going to rather rank other champs and leave DD as is in his rank 2 state, as well as not pump stones into him because he looks and feels bad.

Yes I have him, yes I have tried. I’m speaking from experience as well. But I guess my first thing I did was duel an electro and korg not go to ROL.

I always test in this order :
1st Utility
2nd Damage
3rd Synergy

When falcon came out :
1st straight to spidey
2nd went to mix master
3rd damage test in ROL
4th tested synergy counter parts.

Will3808 · December 2020

TheHoodedDormammu said:
Yes, I played terribly and did not use his best rotation but 208 hits for a r5...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2eyauNj6I&t=200s

He’s damage looked okay when ramped up

Will3808 · December 2020

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.
1. If you're balanced and everyone else is OP, you're lacking.
2. Damage isn't everything. But its a FIGHTING GAME. Damage is important.
3.
4.It doesn't seem like hos kit is deep enough for there to be any true hidden potential.
1.) Tech, cosmic, science mystic , are all heavy at the top. Mutant and skill are nice all around.

2.) Some of the best champions in the game aren’t even known for their damage it’s their utility. Doom, warlock, nick fury (good damage )

4.) We will have to see with him being an hour out after release don’t you think?

How is fury not known for damage?

Texas_11 · December 2020

WRIR said:

Texas_11 said:

Texas_11 said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
1.) Skill class is not lacking at all, it’s the most balanced class in the game.

2.) He will have his purpose in the game , damage is not going to be everything and shouldn’t be or else Starlord would be the top champ in game as well as proxima.

3.) Agree on the DAR unless you parry and heavy it gets up there

4.) It will take some time before we know hos true potential.
How am I getting disagrees on this? Is skill not the most balanced in game?

Will he not have a purpose?

He came out an hour ago! How can we know right away?
Do you have him? Have YOU tried him? People are speaking from experience, which have apparently been negative. Mine hasn't been negative necessarily, but like to the point where I'm going to rather rank other champs and leave DD as is in his rank 2 state, as well as not pump stones into him because he looks and feels bad.

Yes I have him, yes I have tried. I’m speaking from experience as well. But I guess my first thing I did was duel an electro and korg not go to ROL.

I always test in this order :
1st Utility
2nd Damage
3rd Synergy

SknZn · December 2020

I was expecting overhaul, not some omega red wanna be terrax.
Look not everyone is getting overhual ever. But if they do they must shine.

Moot4Life · December 2020

OneManArmy said:

WRIR said:
Here's the problem.

1. Skill class is lacking. Nick Fury is carrying the entire class on his back. Good thing he has an LMD so his back can break twice, but we need more pillars. Daredevil could have been a great skill champ to make skill great again.

2. This was Daredevil's last shot at ANYTHING. You think they'll tune him up? Or update him? This is it. Funny how Kabam is so eager to Tune down champions or "fix" them any time they want, especially right after release if they are "broken" but are so adamant about leaving **** champs as they are like Immortal Hulk. He will no longer be up for any discussion because in their eyes he was already buffed.

3. He shares the same pitfalls as every other lackluster, forgettable, bad pull 2020 champions. He relies on a sp2 for damage. He has weird drawbacks(40% regen rate reduction, utility distributed in his two modes, making him weird or less viable for certain matchups) for no apparent reason. (I don't buy the "100% regen rate is OP! Argument, because it isnt' really that OP. I doubt he'll regen much more than say, Namor.) Finally, no real use. 65% DAAR? Weird and unreliable. It applying after 16 hit combos? He better have some crazy damage. But he doesn't. At best its OK Damage. There is no reason to use him if you have nick, stealthy, monky, even falcon.

As for people saying "nOT eVeRY bUFf sHoULd bE gAMebREaKing", I don't think people are complaining because he isn't magneto. Its because Daredevil went from, well, Daredevil, to Moleman. He's a very famous adapdation of a famous and loved character, from a class that desperately needs a savior, who's gimmick is Redemption and grit in the comics. Also he was right under Magneto for who needs a buff. People wanted to see him get good! This would have been the perfect, and only, opportunity to make him A tier or S tier and sell his story as well as crystals.

But they butchered the buff. And after the Cyber Monday pulls, all I had to hope for was having fun with Daredevil. I am very, very disappointed, and I think people have the right to be, because this was a long anticipated buff that went wrong.
Skill class is lacking?? Yeah cause aegon. Thrasher. Hit monkey. Stealthy. Elsa. Bwdo. Gwenpool. Killmonger. Blade and Taskmaster are all trash right?

yeah

Why are people so adamant about judging champions before we have to time to actually test them

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