Nerf AQ Apocalypse final boss

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  • RogerRabsRogerRabs Posts: 547 ★★★★
    Vigor coupled with the "No Robots with Suicides" node is just unnecessarily restrictive. This dude has 650k health on Day 4 in Map 7 and I'm not even in a top 75 prestige alliance. That would mean doing 162k damage every 25 seconds to out damage Vigor.

  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    I have an r3 g99 and it is almost impossible to one shot on map 7 in a top 90 alliance. I've also finished all content in game including placing 53 in legends run on abyss. Finche is either not a top 500 alliance, or just lying. Most likely lying. If not, post the video and prove it.

    FiiNCH said:

    Treinin said:

    Agree. It's almost enough to make you quit AQ entirely. Did we really need a node that stops suicide users from fighting the boss with a robot?

    What are you talking about? I’ve already solo’d him with g2099 and I run full suicides...
    You fighting him in M7? If so, by all means, post some vids.
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    well when you are a non advanced poor skilled non end game player, there really isn't much to complain about or understand as you have no experience.
    Greekhit said:

    It’s funny watching “Endgamers” getting down from their high horses and complaining about content 🤣
    Think of that next time you will attack any low or mid tier player complaining for difficulty 😉

  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    100% agreed. Am also in a top 90 alliance (placed 67 last week) and it is a huge cash grab/ resource drain. Kabam 3 months ago: we have no idea why anyone would want to use the corvus method, we're gonna research and come back with better designs. today: kabam designs a boss almost exclusively being taken down using said method.
    18sae56 said:

    Sorry, it's garbage game design. My alliance is 11.3 prestige, top 90 every week and we do 7x5 and have been doing a map 7 for quite a long time without much issue. This new boss, and for that matter even the magneto mini boss requires too many specialty champs that you just don't have room for on your team because of the paths you have to plan for. Kabam wanted to get rid of people using the corvus timeout method, but they designed a boss that that seems to be the best method

  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Posts: 701 ★★★★

    I have an r3 g99 and it is almost impossible to one shot on map 7 in a top 90 alliance. I've also finished all content in game including placing 53 in legends run on abyss. Finche is either not a top 500 alliance, or just lying. Most likely lying. If not, post the video and prove it.

    FiiNCH said:

    Treinin said:

    Agree. It's almost enough to make you quit AQ entirely. Did we really need a node that stops suicide users from fighting the boss with a robot?

    What are you talking about? I’ve already solo’d him with g2099 and I run full suicides...
    You fighting him in M7? If so, by all means, post some vids.
    I’ve already said it was map 6 and I’ve already said I was responding to someone saying Kabam was restricting suicide users with robots..

    ...read all the comments before calling someone out you muppet.
  • Captain_2goodCaptain_2good Posts: 134
    edited December 2020

    100% agreed. Am also in a top 90 alliance (placed 67 last week) and it is a huge cash grab/ resource drain. Kabam 3 months ago: we have no idea why anyone would want to use the corvus method, we're gonna research and come back with better designs. today: kabam designs a boss almost exclusively being taken down using said method.

    18sae56 said:

    Sorry, it's garbage game design. My alliance is 11.3 prestige, top 90 every week and we do 7x5 and have been doing a map 7 for quite a long time without much issue. This new boss, and for that matter even the magneto mini boss requires too many specialty champs that you just don't have room for on your team because of the paths you have to plan for. Kabam wanted to get rid of people using the corvus timeout method, but they designed a boss that that seems to be the best method

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Kabam did exactly what they said they’d try to avoid. Bosses shouldn’t require such niche counters when the actual (Map 7) paths are restrictive enough. Mags as the new mini with Flux Dispersal is a mess as well, especially on later days. The chip damage from needing to Parry/Heavy eats you right up. Can’t use champs that can chain into heavies like Doom or Wasp either because of the Metal Ability Accuracy Reduction. Really hope some changes are made, because as it’s stand right now AQ Map 7 is absolutely soul (and item) draining, and it’s a real shame to see after all the positivity and steps in the right direction following the Roadmap and subsequent announcements. You guys can do better, small changes like reducing the massive healthpools of Mags/Apoc or scrapping nodes like Flux Dispersal and the Shock Node on Apoc (which pretty much renders anyone that uses Robots with Suicides helpless) would go a long way.
  • MasterSmokeMasterSmoke Posts: 237 ★★
    Do Not Nerf Him Just Increase The Rewards!! More Effort Means More Rewards!!
  • fchskmfchskm Posts: 166
    Take easier maps lol
  • JoshKosh557JoshKosh557 Posts: 1,464 ★★★★

    The new AQ is really demoralizing. I know there is an adjustment period but this is ridiculous. Apocalypse and Emma with power from afar are not fun.

    I don't mind a challenge and continued learning but this is not fun.

    I actually like emma, the fight isnt that bad and its not a total bore like the rest of aq. Baiting out specials is easy as emma ai throws them often, you just need to be ok with reverse controls.
  • MostWantedMostWanted Posts: 323 ★★
    edited December 2020
    FiiNCH said:

    Treinin said:

    Agree. It's almost enough to make you quit AQ entirely. Did we really need a node that stops suicide users from fighting the boss with a robot?

    What are you talking about? I’ve already solo’d him with g2099 and I run full suicides...
    Aq5?
  • Grootman1294Grootman1294 Posts: 491 ★★★
    Yeah apocalypse is a pain, but quite a few of my alliance mates have (barely) soloed him with guilly 2099.
    I personally think that vigor was just a wee bit of overkill, but it is still doable and not extremely fun and interactive, which I can tolerate.
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    I suggest non end game players (anyone doing map6 and under) don't post about soloing a boss that has no relevancy to the initial thread which was always about map 7.

    also, muppet head is the kind of insult a juvenile makes.
    FiiNCH said:

    I have an r3 g99 and it is almost impossible to one shot on map 7 in a top 90 alliance. I've also finished all content in game including placing 53 in legends run on abyss. Finche is either not a top 500 alliance, or just lying. Most likely lying. If not, post the video and prove it.

    FiiNCH said:

    Treinin said:

    Agree. It's almost enough to make you quit AQ entirely. Did we really need a node that stops suicide users from fighting the boss with a robot?

    What are you talking about? I’ve already solo’d him with g2099 and I run full suicides...
    You fighting him in M7? If so, by all means, post some vids.
    I’ve already said it was map 6 and I’ve already said I was responding to someone saying Kabam was restricting suicide users with robots..

    ...read all the comments before calling someone out you muppet.
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    I actually kind of like muppet. thanks!
    FiiNCH said:

    I have an r3 g99 and it is almost impossible to one shot on map 7 in a top 90 alliance. I've also finished all content in game including placing 53 in legends run on abyss. Finche is either not a top 500 alliance, or just lying. Most likely lying. If not, post the video and prove it.

    FiiNCH said:

    Treinin said:

    Agree. It's almost enough to make you quit AQ entirely. Did we really need a node that stops suicide users from fighting the boss with a robot?

    What are you talking about? I’ve already solo’d him with g2099 and I run full suicides...
    You fighting him in M7? If so, by all means, post some vids.
    I’ve already said it was map 6 and I’ve already said I was responding to someone saying Kabam was restricting suicide users with robots..

    ...read all the comments before calling someone out you muppet.
  • PizzabeatPizzabeat Posts: 196 ★★
    @cityofenoch where does OP specify that he was just talking about map 7?

    Honestly this mode isn't fun anymore because of the overpowered final boss.

    I don't even know what else to say. It's just a plain pain in the b*tt. This fight is on par with pre nerf 6.2.6 Champion .

    Please Kabam, listen to your players and lower the difficulty. Otherwise I can see many players stepping away from the higher maps.

  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Posts: 701 ★★★★
    Pizzabeat said:

    @cityofenoch where does OP specify that he was just talking about map 7?

    Honestly this mode isn't fun anymore because of the overpowered final boss.

    I don't even know what else to say. It's just a plain pain in the b*tt. This fight is on par with pre nerf 6.2.6 Champion .

    Please Kabam, listen to your players and lower the difficulty. Otherwise I can see many players stepping away from the higher maps.

    He doesn’t - the guy just has the usual ‘end game elitist’ attitude 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    my bad he doesn't. I guess we all interpret things phenomenologically.
    Pizzabeat said:

    @cityofenoch where does OP specify that he was just talking about map 7?

    Honestly this mode isn't fun anymore because of the overpowered final boss.

    I don't even know what else to say. It's just a plain pain in the b*tt. This fight is on par with pre nerf 6.2.6 Champion .

    Please Kabam, listen to your players and lower the difficulty. Otherwise I can see many players stepping away from the higher maps.

  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    you boast about soloing the boss and … I'm the elitist? perhaps we both are?
    FiiNCH said:

    Pizzabeat said:

    @cityofenoch where does OP specify that he was just talking about map 7?

    Honestly this mode isn't fun anymore because of the overpowered final boss.

    I don't even know what else to say. It's just a plain pain in the b*tt. This fight is on par with pre nerf 6.2.6 Champion .

    Please Kabam, listen to your players and lower the difficulty. Otherwise I can see many players stepping away from the higher maps.

    He doesn’t - the guy just has the usual ‘end game elitist’ attitude 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    also, note the key difference between map 6 and map 7 apocalypse boss nodes (besides overall pi) is the new node cutting wires (this applies a shock damage if running a robot and they are immune to bleed): so in map 6 you run suicides but it doesn't have cutting wires, so you take NO shock damage for that fight. In map 7, with cutting wires, you would have taking a ton of shock damage for running g99 with suicides at the start of the fight without doing anything.

    If kabam simply cut this node, i think ti would be much more fair to your point that you could solo it in map 6.

    you boast about soloing the boss and … I'm the elitist? perhaps we both are?

    FiiNCH said:

    Pizzabeat said:

    @cityofenoch where does OP specify that he was just talking about map 7?

    Honestly this mode isn't fun anymore because of the overpowered final boss.

    I don't even know what else to say. It's just a plain pain in the b*tt. This fight is on par with pre nerf 6.2.6 Champion .

    Please Kabam, listen to your players and lower the difficulty. Otherwise I can see many players stepping away from the higher maps.

    He doesn’t - the guy just has the usual ‘end game elitist’ attitude 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 7,009 ★★★★★
    @cityofenoch, I suggest you "quote" the post you want to reply to before you type. Makes it easier to read.
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    i think i have my last few posts? not the earlier ones.
    Kill_Grey said:

    @cityofenoch, I suggest you "quote" the post you want to reply to before you type. Makes it easier to read.

  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    the reason it was assumed map 7 is because the cutting wire node, which map 6 and below do not have.
    Pizzabeat said:

    @cityofenoch where does OP specify that he was just talking about map 7?

    Honestly this mode isn't fun anymore because of the overpowered final boss.

    I don't even know what else to say. It's just a plain pain in the b*tt. This fight is on par with pre nerf 6.2.6 Champion .

    Please Kabam, listen to your players and lower the difficulty. Otherwise I can see many players stepping away from the higher maps.

  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 7,009 ★★★★★

    i think i have my last few posts? not the earlier ones.

    Kill_Grey said:

    @cityofenoch, I suggest you "quote" the post you want to reply to before you type. Makes it easier to read.

    I mean you should be doing the opposite of what you are.
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45
    my last post quoted the previous? not following you. So I should quote but NOT quote?
    Kill_Grey said:

    i think i have my last few posts? not the earlier ones.

    Kill_Grey said:

    @cityofenoch, I suggest you "quote" the post you want to reply to before you type. Makes it easier to read.

    I mean you should be doing the opposite of what you are.
  • cityofenochcityofenoch Posts: 45

    my last post quoted the previous? not following you. So I should quote but NOT quote?

    Kill_Grey said:

    i think i have my last few posts? not the earlier ones.

    Kill_Grey said:

    @cityofenoch, I suggest you "quote" the post you want to reply to before you type. Makes it easier to read.

    I mean you should be doing the opposite of what you are.
    oh i see, just have the quote precede my statement.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Posts: 701 ★★★★

    you boast about soloing the boss and … I'm the elitist? perhaps we both are?

    FiiNCH said:

    Pizzabeat said:

    @cityofenoch where does OP specify that he was just talking about map 7?

    Honestly this mode isn't fun anymore because of the overpowered final boss.

    I don't even know what else to say. It's just a plain pain in the b*tt. This fight is on par with pre nerf 6.2.6 Champion .

    Please Kabam, listen to your players and lower the difficulty. Otherwise I can see many players stepping away from the higher maps.

    He doesn’t - the guy just has the usual ‘end game elitist’ attitude 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Me saying I’ve solo’d an AQ boss in relation to a post isn’t being elitist. You saying you ‘suggest non end-game or map 7 players don’t post on a thread’ is absolutely elitist. Keep digging.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 7,009 ★★★★★

    my last post quoted the previous? not following you. So I should quote but NOT quote?

    Kill_Grey said:

    i think i have my last few posts? not the earlier ones.

    Kill_Grey said:

    @cityofenoch, I suggest you "quote" the post you want to reply to before you type. Makes it easier to read.

    I mean you should be doing the opposite of what you are.
    oh i see, just have the quote precede my statement.
    There you go.
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