Unpopular opinion: ghost is overrated

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  • ProximaMidnight_8ProximaMidnight_8 Member Posts: 285 ★★

    I still don't see why she's amazing though

    You literally have a single R5 and are likely still on 6.1... to be quite frank you are literally so inexperienced that you have no comprehension on what she can achieve synergiless. I bring her into Act 6, 7, AQ, AW, etc synergiless without issue. The biggest thing that she can do is (with Hood) avoid all damage of all kinds. You don’t need to stun the opponent to use specials, just backdraft intercept. Please DO NOT comment on a subject you have no knowledge of, much less critique it and call it an “unpopular opinion” when you’re plain WRONG.
    I've watched many ghost videos. I know how she works and I've tried many times to do these things but I cannot. I love how instead of trying to help and explaining you just decide to call people inexperienced for not having on point ghost skills. youre likely a thronebreaker who just likes to look down on people who are in the situations you were in and instead of being constructive, just attack people for not being able to have the same skill as you. if youre not going to be constructive, why bother commenting?
  • Sw0rdMasterSw0rdMaster Member Posts: 1,793 ★★★★

    I still don't see why she's amazing though

    You literally have a single R5 and are likely still on 6.1... to be quite frank you are literally so inexperienced that you have no comprehension on what she can achieve synergiless. I bring her into Act 6, 7, AQ, AW, etc synergiless without issue. The biggest thing that she can do is (with Hood) avoid all damage of all kinds. You don’t need to stun the opponent to use specials, just backdraft intercept. Please DO NOT comment on a subject you have no knowledge of, much less critique it and call it an “unpopular opinion” when you’re plain WRONG.
    I've watched many ghost videos. I know how she works and I've tried many times to do these things but I cannot. I love how instead of trying to help and explaining you just decide to call people inexperienced for not having on point ghost skills. youre likely a thronebreaker who just likes to look down on people who are in the situations you were in and instead of being constructive, just attack people for not being able to have the same skill as you. if youre not going to be constructive, why bother commenting?
    When i first pulled Ghost, i sucked at playing her and sidelined her for awhile.

    After many months i decided to give her a try and set out a journey to learn to play her.

    Like anything, it takes time to learn and the more you practice, the better you get.

    It's not possible, and I'm not the best player, so if i can do it, I'm sure you can do it to.
  • Mr_PredictorMr_Predictor Member Posts: 107

    I still don't see why she's amazing though

    You literally have a single R5 and are likely still on 6.1... to be quite frank you are literally so inexperienced that you have no comprehension on what she can achieve synergiless. I bring her into Act 6, 7, AQ, AW, etc synergiless without issue. The biggest thing that she can do is (with Hood) avoid all damage of all kinds. You don’t need to stun the opponent to use specials, just backdraft intercept. Please DO NOT comment on a subject you have no knowledge of, much less critique it and call it an “unpopular opinion” when you’re plain WRONG.
    I've watched many ghost videos. I know how she works and I've tried many times to do these things but I cannot. I love how instead of trying to help and explaining you just decide to call people inexperienced for not having on point ghost skills. youre likely a thronebreaker who just likes to look down on people who are in the situations you were in and instead of being constructive, just attack people for not being able to have the same skill as you. if youre not going to be constructive, why bother commenting?
    Negative Feedback =/= Non-Contructive. You outright said ghost is overrated and now you're upset that he didn't put it nicely and give you tips.

    Also, 300 hits for ROL WS? What?


    5/50. Synergies, no suicides. Not many heavies. On top of WS being super uncooperative.
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  • HassamaMamaHassamaMama Member Posts: 254 ★★

    I still don't see why she's amazing though

    You literally have a single R5 and are likely still on 6.1... to be quite frank you are literally so inexperienced that you have no comprehension on what she can achieve synergiless. I bring her into Act 6, 7, AQ, AW, etc synergiless without issue. The biggest thing that she can do is (with Hood) avoid all damage of all kinds. You don’t need to stun the opponent to use specials, just backdraft intercept. Please DO NOT comment on a subject you have no knowledge of, much less critique it and call it an “unpopular opinion” when you’re plain WRONG.
    I've watched many ghost videos. I know how she works and I've tried many times to do these things but I cannot. I love how instead of trying to help and explaining you just decide to call people inexperienced for not having on point ghost skills. youre likely a thronebreaker who just likes to look down on people who are in the situations you were in and instead of being constructive, just attack people for not being able to have the same skill as you. if youre not going to be constructive, why bother commenting?
    Gonna flip it on you because now you're just being illogical - only replying to the posts saying you're inexperienced, and not to the ones pointing out where you've gone wrong with your inexperience and offering advice. If that's all you're going to do, don't post here.

    People are giving you tips, people are explaining where your thought process has gone wrong, but you're only responding to the people who don't want to waste time explaining what has already been said multiple times by different people.

    This is coming from someone who is a Thronebreaker, yes. Someone who has a sig 200 5* 5/65 Ghost, and now an unduped r2 6* Ghost. However, I struggled learning Ghost before I was lucky enough to become a Thronebreaker. Just because you've watched the videos on how to play her, doesn't mean you've actually put in the work to practice and actually understand how he does what she does. Watching videos and actually trying to do it (NOT, trying once and giving up) are two vastly different things.

    In my opinion, Quake is harder to play than Ghost is - stop talking about Quake when you've said you don't have her. Tigra looks harder to play than Ghost - another champ you don't have but are claiming "looks" easier.

    Put in the work. Look at what people have said in this thread with regards to constructive criticism, information, and advice. If you need, add me in game, same as this name, and I'll do what I can to help you turn that 300 hit Winter Soldier fight into one with a hit count in the 30s-50s (30s for a maxed 5* Ghost, more for a r4 5*/r1 6*).
  • ProximaMidnight_8ProximaMidnight_8 Member Posts: 285 ★★

    I still don't see why she's amazing though

    You literally have a single R5 and are likely still on 6.1... to be quite frank you are literally so inexperienced that you have no comprehension on what she can achieve synergiless. I bring her into Act 6, 7, AQ, AW, etc synergiless without issue. The biggest thing that she can do is (with Hood) avoid all damage of all kinds. You don’t need to stun the opponent to use specials, just backdraft intercept. Please DO NOT comment on a subject you have no knowledge of, much less critique it and call it an “unpopular opinion” when you’re plain WRONG.
    I've watched many ghost videos. I know how she works and I've tried many times to do these things but I cannot. I love how instead of trying to help and explaining you just decide to call people inexperienced for not having on point ghost skills. youre likely a thronebreaker who just likes to look down on people who are in the situations you were in and instead of being constructive, just attack people for not being able to have the same skill as you. if youre not going to be constructive, why bother commenting?
    Gonna flip it on you because now you're just being illogical - only replying to the posts saying you're inexperienced, and not to the ones pointing out where you've gone wrong with your inexperience and offering advice. If that's all you're going to do, don't post here.

    People are giving you tips, people are explaining where your thought process has gone wrong, but you're only responding to the people who don't want to waste time explaining what has already been said multiple times by different people.

    This is coming from someone who is a Thronebreaker, yes. Someone who has a sig 200 5* 5/65 Ghost, and now an unduped r2 6* Ghost. However, I struggled learning Ghost before I was lucky enough to become a Thronebreaker. Just because you've watched the videos on how to play her, doesn't mean you've actually put in the work to practice and actually understand how he does what she does. Watching videos and actually trying to do it (NOT, trying once and giving up) are two vastly different things.

    In my opinion, Quake is harder to play than Ghost is - stop talking about Quake when you've said you don't have her. Tigra looks harder to play than Ghost - another champ you don't have but are claiming "looks" easier.

    Put in the work. Look at what people have said in this thread with regards to constructive criticism, information, and advice. If you need, add me in game, same as this name, and I'll do what I can to help you turn that 300 hit Winter Soldier fight into one with a hit count in the 30s-50s (30s for a maxed 5* Ghost, more for a r4 5*/r1 6*).
    I have tigra as a 5 star. I've been practicing with her against silver surfers to learn how to heavy counter and dodge projectiles
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  • ProximaMidnight_8ProximaMidnight_8 Member Posts: 285 ★★

    silentag said:

    Sorry, but based on your post history, you seem to fundamentally not understand the champ, and that’s ok. But it seems a little hard to qualify your post if you first don’t seem to have a firm grasp of the use of ghost. And that’s ok, give it some more time and actually explore using the champ. If you can dupe her and learn to use her, I think you will find so much content getting much easier for you. But posting that a champ is overrated when you haven’t taken the time to learn them seems a little shortsighted. I’m sure if you framed this as asking for help to learn how to use her, a number of the community would come together to give you a leg up.

    I spent an entire day dueling winter soldier with her and the only way she's able to get a sp2 without parry is wasp synergy. I understand how she works.
    these two sentences contradict one another

    You clearly don't know how she works if you can't use Ghost's specials without wasp and without parrying.
    not everyone has insanely high skill
    you don't need it lol
    I do need it. Im not very skilled at the game despite being cav. also why is everyone mad at me not hating quake. bc im not good with ghost means I cant like any other high skill characters? I'm not saying I can play them, just that they seem like good counters
    no, you really don't need that much skill to play ghost. of course if you're good with her you can end every fight with a yellow bar, but if you're not panda man pete, you can parry or not play perfectly all the time. literally all you need to do is do phase intercept which is really easy once you try her
    I cant phase intercept at all. also I just took down winter soldier with her and it took her over 300 hits
    Then ur just bad, I can do it in 50 with decent rng (Heavy counter his sp1). Someone isnt overrated just because a few people cant play them. Is quake trash since you cant play her? no, you just cant bring out her value (idk maybe u can quake but using ghost is way easier.)
    I dont think 300 hits versus 50 hits is a skill thing
  • O_Deadpool_OO_Deadpool_O Member Posts: 156 ★★
    Ghost is awesome!
  • RasiloverRasilover Member Posts: 1,478 ★★★★
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  • Revan0607Revan0607 Member Posts: 53
    quake is overrated
  • ProximaMidnight_8ProximaMidnight_8 Member Posts: 285 ★★
    ok so here's a video of me playing ghost. I know its really bad and probably not tge best rotation. please ignore the texts. also I have to pause like 3 times because my dog is eating my food. sorry. but feel free to critique it (I'd prefer that yall not be terribly mean but if you must then go for it)

    https://youtu.be/1B9UA-L02n0
  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Member Posts: 4,126 ★★★★★
    She is overrated but doesn’t require an insane amount ok skill, she’s very easy to learn how to play lol
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★
    This may just set the record for the most disagrees on a single post ever
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    This may just set the record for the most disagrees on a single post ever

    Not even close.
  • RaviDaviRaviDavi Member Posts: 800 ★★★

    ok so here's a video of me playing ghost. I know its really bad and probably not tge best rotation. please ignore the texts. also I have to pause like 3 times because my dog is eating my food. sorry. but feel free to critique it (I'd prefer that yall not be terribly mean but if you must then go for it)

    https://youtu.be/1B9UA-L02n0

    Don't practice against ROL WS, try against Life Steal nodes or in act 5 in general. With more aggressive AI you'll be more comfortable phase-intercepting.
  • Tiger360Tiger360 Member Posts: 1,696 ★★★★
    Etjama said:

    Tiger360 said:

    Etjama said:

    Tiger360 said:

    Etjama said:

    The only reason she's overrated is because some people think she's better than Quake. Other than that, no.

    It's valid to think that she is because she literally does stuff Quake can do but better lol
    And Quake does so much that Ghost can't do. You cannot beat the combination of 100% AAR and no contact whatsoever. If I am going into a quest blind and can only bring 1 champ, even if I can bring all the synergies in the world for em, you can bet your a*s I'm bringing Quake. The amount of sh*t she counters is insane and the amount of stuff she counters in the whole, "One champ, one node, worst combo" thread just proves that.
    Ghost already does 95% of the games content better. Quake does more on paper but I’d only bring her for the stuff ghost can’t do. There’s also stuff Quake can’t do (unless you want to spend a day on 1 fight) e.g abyss
    Just because Ghost can finish fights faster doesn't mean she's "better". Quake, while she has weaknesses like every other champ, can handle much more and make the hardest of fights and the hardest content a cakewalk. And I for one just took the last 90% off Abyss Thing with Quake after an epic fail of a practice run with Ægon. Do that repeatedly and she can handle most fights in Abyss. Who cares how long it takes? She's still the best option.
    Proof you did Thing with Quake? And how long did it take? As I said, I’m not trying to argue I just love using ghost, Quake doesn’t do much more content because Ghost can handle most of the games content already more efficiently, which makes her better for most of the game, and Quake is better for the 4% of the games content she can do that ghost can’t. You can’t say Quake is the best option when ghost can do it faster and is less risky because you almost can’t mess up with her phase whilst with Quake you either use the dex method which no one on earth can do perfectly or parry method where you lose health (not much but still)
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    FiiNCH said:

    This may just set the record for the most disagrees on a single post ever

    Not even close.
    I meant from one single comment - unless I’m still way off? Any idea what the record is then? @Kill_Grey
  • OnmixOnmix Member Posts: 508 ★★★
    Nope.

    Best champ in the game
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian
    As someone who explored 95% of Act 6 with Ghost and no wasp I’d say you might be a touch wrong. It’s worth taking the time to learn her, especially if you ever want to play high level AW when you might not be able to justify Wasp in your team
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    FiiNCH said:

    This may just set the record for the most disagrees on a single post ever

    Not even close.
    I meant from one single comment - unless I’m still way off? Any idea what the record is then? @Kill_Grey
    ~300 is the highest I've seen so far.
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  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    FiiNCH said:

    This may just set the record for the most disagrees on a single post ever

    Not even close.
    I meant from one single comment - unless I’m still way off? Any idea what the record is then? @Kill_Grey
    ~300 is the highest I've seen so far.
    Was it that doom post? That one belongs in the HoF
    Always has been :D
  • FleaRatKing12FleaRatKing12 Member Posts: 21
    Ghost is really good she was my mvp for act7 100% and only used hood for synergies and I dont run suicides either
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  • GuktugGuktug Member Posts: 67
    I use 6-Star Ghost in AQ, along with another Ghost (5-Star Awakened) and my paramour Quake. That's right - ZERO SYNERGIES. One can time her SP2 right even without relying on Wasp's synergy. I don't even care if I eat recoil damage by not bringing Hood (although this synergy is awesome in some content with BS damage). You don't have to worry about the A.I. not playing ball in endgame content, either. That's why she and Quake are my co-MVPs in Act 7.
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  • HoitadoHoitado Member Posts: 3,707 ★★★★★
    He just wants attention in the forums
  • ProximaMidnight_8ProximaMidnight_8 Member Posts: 285 ★★
    SWORD78 said:

    He just wants attention in the forums

    I'm just trying to understand. idk why people have to be terrible about it. me not being perfect at ghost doesn't mean I want attention but thanks
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