The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
If you do abyss, and get a tech t5cc, you can start tailoring your crystal opening decisions to that. Do you want Ghost or a different tech, basic or featured 6* crystals will be the way to go based on that answer. I'm not sure if you ever buy cavs, but you can start purchasing only Tech featured cavs.
Bad news today will always be better than bad news tomorrow.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Abyss? Variants? Map 7?
All of the variants are done except the newest one. Don’t have time to do map 7 or abyss. I have a toddler and a career.
I find Map 7 less time consuming than Map 6. I certainly log in fewer times to clear it each day. But a big part of that is finding the right group that co-ordinates well and can accommodate your schedule.
I would definitely give it a shot, 40-50% T5CC per month adds up very quickly.
Map 7's time requirements are one of the most overstated things in the game. It just makes people feel better to say it takes too much time than to say it's too hard or I'm not willing to pay the ticket costs.
Whilst I tend to avoid generalising in most cases, I think you’re right. Either that, or people are genuinely unaware that Map 7 no longer requires any extra time commitment comparative to Map 6.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
What is wrong with you
I mean he’s right....you’re unwilling to do any endgame content (abyss, act 6, map 7)
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.
Fun is subjective. What you deem fun or not will differ from what others find fun.
While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.
I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.
Fun is subjective. What you deem fun or not will differ from what others find fun.
While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.
I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.
You’re 100% right that it’s subjective. I’d be willing to bet that the majority of the community thinks it’s bad, though. As the end consumers of the product, subjective opinions matter.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.
Fun is subjective. What you deem fun or not will differ from what others find fun.
While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.
I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.
You’re 100% right that it’s subjective. I’d be willing to bet that the majority of the community thinks it’s bad, though. As the end consumers of the product, subjective opinions matter.
But you can't say for certain that the majority of the community thinks it's bad. Yet again that is a subjective opinion with zero factual evidence. Unless you're going to ask every single player who has done Act 6, or is currently doing Act 6, for their feedback on Act 6 as it currently is the best you can do is give an extrapolated answer which isn't representative of an entire community of players.
There's abyss - You don't want to do it There's map 7 - You don't want to do it There's Act 6 - It's too hard so change it for you.
Sounds like a you problem unless I'm missing something.
Abyss- Don't have an Aegon and specific counters and thousands of units. Map 7- No Map 7 ally would take in members having less than 12k prestige. Act 6- Reason explained in the post.
I will never explore Act 6 or any content in the future that is as horrible as Act 6. I explored 7.1 and variants. I looked at a couple paths in Act 6 recently and just quit out. Act 6 doesn't exist to me. I did an Abyss run, but don't have the motivation to explore that mess either.
There's abyss - You don't want to do it There's map 7 - You don't want to do it There's Act 6 - It's too hard so change it for you.
Sounds like a you problem unless I'm missing something.
Abyss- Don't have an Aegon and specific counters and thousands of units. Map 7- No Map 7 ally would take in members having less than 12k prestige. Act 6- Reason explained in the post.
A lot of lower- to mid-prestige alliances are transitioning to Map 7, since the bulk of the T5CC come from Honour Rewards, which are awarded independently of prestige.
So in short, if you can run 7x5 with Epic modifiers, your entire alliance is guaranteed a 10% T5CC crystal per cycle.
For example, I’m currently in the process of helping one of my old alliances transition to Map 7. So far they’re managing to complete it on all 5 days, running Epic modifiers on 3 of them.
They have 10.2k average prestige, with no minimum prestige requirement to join.
In fact, it’s arguably beneficial for lower prestige alliances to run Map 7 as soon as they are ready to, since AQ map difficulty scales with prestige. So you can still earn your 10% T5CC per week, but running an easier version of Map 7 compared to more competitive alliances.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.
Fun is subjective. What you deem fun or not will differ from what others find fun.
While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.
I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.
You’re 100% right that it’s subjective. I’d be willing to bet that the majority of the community thinks it’s bad, though. As the end consumers of the product, subjective opinions matter.
But you can't say for certain that the majority of the community thinks it's bad. Yet again that is a subjective opinion with zero factual evidence. Unless you're going to ask every single player who has done Act 6, or is currently doing Act 6, for their feedback on Act 6 as it currently is the best you can do is give an extrapolated answer which isn't representative of an entire community of players.
When did I assert that as a fact? I said I’d be willing to bet. I am stating an opinion.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.
Fun is subjective. What you deem fun or not will differ from what others find fun.
While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.
I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.
You’re 100% right that it’s subjective. I’d be willing to bet that the majority of the community thinks it’s bad, though. As the end consumers of the product, subjective opinions matter.
But you can't say for certain that the majority of the community thinks it's bad. Yet again that is a subjective opinion with zero factual evidence. Unless you're going to ask every single player who has done Act 6, or is currently doing Act 6, for their feedback on Act 6 as it currently is the best you can do is give an extrapolated answer which isn't representative of an entire community of players.
When did I assert that as a fact? I said I’d be willing to bet. I am stating an opinion.
Fine, if we're going down the pedantic route, you have some degree of certainty if you're willing to make a bet. You're entitled to your opinion, but you are also entitled to be wrong about your opinion too.
The only change is advocate for is removing strength in numbers in 6.2.5. Beyond that, Act 6 is fine as it is. The oppressive attack values are gone. The previous biggest obstacles to a completion run have been removed. There is nothing wrong with exploration featuring some difficult paths since you don’t need to explore Act 6 for any progression title. There’s no rush to explore Act 6, and you can very easily wait until you pull the perfect counter to a difficult path.
Considering you need the t5c to help you get thronebreaker, yeah you are kind of stuck exploring it.
You don't NEED to explore act 6 for thronebreaker.
My variant 1 comparison is just based on the many paths and how much of a pain it is. I haven't and won't waste my time exploring variant 1, and currently feeling the same with exploring act 6. I've already 100% 7.1 and became TB, so no rush to go back.
Good for you, but despite all of the content I’ve done, I still haven’t formed a t5c. I have enough fragments spread across the classes to have 3 of them, but haven’t been lucky enough to spin out enough in a single class. I am kind of stuck exploring it.
Your choice, it's all about what your goal is and how fast you want to get there. But realize you aren't stuck having to do any particular content.
I'm F2P and TB without doing any abyss and only completing act 6.
How is that my choice lol
It sounds like I may have more content done than you. RNG is ****.
This is about act 6 and how much it sucks
Does act 6 suck..... absolutely! Do you need to explore it for TB........ no you don't! That's why it's your choice whether you go for exploration. But in no way should it be nerfed again just because!
Dude...unless I do abyss or map 7, which I don’t want to, there is no where else in the game for me to get t5c. Only other spot is exploring variant 6, which I will do soon enough.
Abyss isn't really as scary as people think. Just space it out for two days and you'll get it done before you knwo it
I’m not scared of abyss. Apparently you guys missed the part where I’ve already completed most of the endgame content.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Well variants and 7.1 are really easy. You haven't done abyss. You're complaining about Act 6. What end game content have you actually finished bc act 6 was pretty much the only challenging thing you've touched and you're complaining about the Fischer Price version of it
I think you’re missing my point. I’ll get it done. I’m not a scrub. I’m complaining about how it isn’t fun. Act 6 is a chore to do. This is a game. It should be fun.
Fun is subjective. What you deem fun or not will differ from what others find fun.
While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.
I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.
You’re 100% right that it’s subjective. I’d be willing to bet that the majority of the community thinks it’s bad, though. As the end consumers of the product, subjective opinions matter.
But you can't say for certain that the majority of the community thinks it's bad. Yet again that is a subjective opinion with zero factual evidence. Unless you're going to ask every single player who has done Act 6, or is currently doing Act 6, for their feedback on Act 6 as it currently is the best you can do is give an extrapolated answer which isn't representative of an entire community of players.
When did I assert that as a fact? I said I’d be willing to bet. I am stating an opinion.
Fine, if we're going down the pedantic route, you have some degree of certainty if you're willing to make a bet. You're entitled to your opinion, but you are also entitled to be wrong about your opinion too.
Act 6 isn't as bad as a lot of people say. Yes, its not a walk in the park, but if they make it too easy, people will run into a roadblock eventually.. which is what happened with the original Act 6. Nice easy all through acts 1-5, no overly challenging nodes, progressed way too fast, then got slapped in the face because they hadn't gone through the game slowly enough to develop the roster.
Completion for act 6 is fine, you have easier paths which you can do to get through it and get cavalier / thronebreaker. Exploration, should still be difficult. Those who want to skate through and do the bare minimum have the opportunity to do so, those who want a challenge can, and those who want to explore at their own pace, can clear, grow then go back and explore at their own pace.
If you cannot explore Act 6, wait for better counters, as long as you get an initial clear that is all you need. Personally I dreaded the thought of exploration, but it was easy when I started exploring pre nerf, a lot easier now. My biggest hatred atm has been addressed in Act 7 - way too many paths with the same bosses.
Dont rush, its doable if you take it slowly, one or two paths per week, doing the ones you have counters for, as you progress and do each months EQ / AW season, or weekly AQ your team builds, your skills develop and it becomes easier to do those harder paths.
When 6.4 came out, there's paths which require incinerate, shock and cold snap immune if I remember rightly, at the time, hardly any champs could counter - more and more are becoming available as time goes on, or synergies allow you to counter them.
Take the game at the pace it was designed to be, if you rush before you've developed your team or skill, it will feel a lot harder, and a lot more brutal than it actually is.
The way kabam make money, is people feeling like they need to rush. They need this team, or that champion, and they need a certain title. You need aegon for abyss? Okay pay for rng.. you want thronebreaker - rush it.. you rush it, you grind - or you open that lovely bank account of yours and pay for Miikes birthday tab..
I don't know man. Even with a well developed rostet, itemless exploration is still a task
I'm not sure that's completely accurate but regardless, this idea that all content in game should be explored by every player itemless is absurd to me. If consumables were gated behind a pay wall, then sure. They're not though, literally every consumable type is grindable for free. There's a middle ground between needing thousands of units worth of items per path and every path ran itemless.
If people are having to use things they're getting in the game for free to progress, I fail to see the issue with it or why any other player should either.
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That’s why I don’t want to do abyss.
Of my 40 6 stars, only one is tech. If I go through all of the trouble of doing abyss, and pull a tech catalyst and have to r3 civil warrior, I will probably quit.
Bad news today will always be better than bad news tomorrow.
While I have no plans on 100% Act 6 any time soon because honestly it's more to do with the energy requirement than the difficulty for me, you cannot objectively say that it is not fun. You can have your subjective opinion that it isn't.
I personally find the SoulsBorne games fun, a lot of people don't because they find them too hard. That doesn't objectively make them bad games because they're too hard for others to complete.
Map 7- No Map 7 ally would take in members having less than 12k prestige.
Act 6- Reason explained in the post.
So in short, if you can run 7x5 with Epic modifiers, your entire alliance is guaranteed a 10% T5CC crystal per cycle.
They have 10.2k average prestige, with no minimum prestige requirement to join.
In fact, it’s arguably beneficial for lower prestige alliances to run Map 7 as soon as they are ready to, since AQ map difficulty scales with prestige. So you can still earn your 10% T5CC per week, but running an easier version of Map 7 compared to more competitive alliances.
Side note, thanks for all of the content. I appreciate your channel and the work you do.
If people are having to use things they're getting in the game for free to progress, I fail to see the issue with it or why any other player should either.