Crystal drop rate way off

KomfenKomfen Member Posts: 34 ★
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Hi guys, I'm writing a review of this game.
I've been enjoying this game a lot, but one thing i have found odd..
By personal experience and a couple of other players i've checked with aswell the crystal drop rate you claim are way off.
Due you publish audit information on the claims aganst reality of rewards..
And if not then why not?
Is ther a legal requirement that you must meet?

In my example i've opened about 28 Greater Gift Crystals and my desiered items are: 6star hero 0,06% chanse of getting, 5star hero 0,3%, 6star hero shards 9,5%, 5star nexus hero crystal 2%, 6star nexus hero crystal 0,5%.
This adds up to 12,36% of getting a desiered item.
But that i should atleast get a desiered item 3 times out of all my ggc openings and i have goten 0



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  • KomfenKomfen Member Posts: 34 ★
    Kaypee3 said:

    That's not how probability works, just because it's 50% chance to get tails on a coin doesn't mean you will get tails every two tries.

    I do understand ther is gonna be some margin that the % chanse isent 100% correct from what you get from your crystals. But my problem here is that it is way off and not yust a litle bitt.
  • KomfenKomfen Member Posts: 34 ★
    Kill_Grey said:

    Here we go again...

    Ther is a reason why posts like this one pops up again and again tho.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,015 ★★★★★
    The crystal odds are the same for everyone. No changes. RNG. Maw.
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  • VoltolosVoltolos Member Posts: 1,120 ★★★
    Theres still a 2.49% percent chance to get none of these things in 28 GGC. Not common but very possible
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★
    Why do people think that Rng is scewed when they don't get what they want?
  • TheHeroDeservedTheHeroDeserved Member Posts: 756 ★★★
    Komfen said:

    Kaypee3 said:

    That's not how probability works, just because it's 50% chance to get tails on a coin doesn't mean you will get tails every two tries.

    I do understand ther is gonna be some margin that the % chanse isent 100% correct from what you get from your crystals. But my problem here is that it is way off and not yust a litle bitt.
    Just because the possibility to get something 10% of the times, doesnt mean you get it 1/10 times. In fact, you could win 8/10 times, because each time you open a crystal, theres a 10%. In your case, theres a 87,64% chance of not getting what you want. The chance resets each time you try.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,883 ★★★★★
    Komfen said:

    Kaypee3 said:

    That's not how probability works, just because it's 50% chance to get tails on a coin doesn't mean you will get tails every two tries.

    I do understand ther is gonna be some margin that the % chanse isent 100% correct from what you get from your crystals. But my problem here is that it is way off and not yust a litle bitt.
    You hav never played. Slot machine in irl. If it say 1 procent change to win jackpot won’t ever meant out of 100 try u wil it not like a few offer game hav a 100 procent change to get greater good so you just play right in to a gamble to get good never ever do that if u don’t understand it all randomly
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,330 ★★★★★
    You should try flipping a coin.

    It’s 50% chance to get a head. So does it mean that you’ll definitely flip a head if the previous flip was a tail?

    You might wanna read up on Gambler’s Fallacy.
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  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,122 ★★★★★
    https://www.mathsisfun.com/data/probability-events-independent.html

    Recommended reading on how normal probability works. Game pRNG is likely something like this.

    Dr. Zola
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    A normal dice has 6 sides, 1 through 6 numbered.

    By your logic if I roll it 6 times I should get each number once.

    But in reality that's not what happens. Each roll has an individual chance of landing on any of those numbers. It doesn't remove the chance of landing on the same number again just because I rolled that number once before.
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  • Invicta_HellionInvicta_Hellion Member Posts: 220 ★★
    Komfen said:

    Hi guys, I'm writing a review of this game.
    I've been enjoying this game a lot, but one thing i have found odd..
    By personal experience and a couple of other players i've checked with aswell the crystal drop rate you claim are way off.
    Due you publish audit information on the claims aganst reality of rewards..
    And if not then why not?
    Is ther a legal requirement that you must meet?

    In my example i've opened about 28 Greater Gift Crystals and my desiered items are: 6star hero 0,06% chanse of getting, 5star hero 0,3%, 6star hero shards 9,5%, 5star nexus hero crystal 2%, 6star nexus hero crystal 0,5%.
    This adds up to 12,36% of getting a desiered item.
    But that i should atleast get a desiered item 3 times out of all my ggc openings and i have goten 0



    It does not add up, this means that on every opening you have 0.3% chance for a 5 str hero, 2% on 5str nexus and so on
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  • BlackTuranBlackTuran Member Posts: 1,020 ★★★★
    DarkDuelist said:

    I know what you mean but it's just bad luck. When these epoch crystals were in stock I did every event quest difficulty and with all 18 cavalier crystals should've had 315% chance of 5* (or at least 3 5 stars) but I got 0 which seems crazy odds but it's just bad luck. Sometimes you'll have really great odds sometimes really terrible, you just gotta accept it all and keep going.

    That’s not how probability works
  • QuattrucciQuattrucci Member Posts: 160 ★★
    I know it’s been said but we should keep repeating it, this isn’t how probability works.
  • Forgotten2Forgotten2 Member Posts: 179 ★★
    Komfen said:

    Hi guys, I'm writing a review of this game.
    I've been enjoying this game a lot, but one thing i have found odd..
    By personal experience and a couple of other players i've checked with aswell the crystal drop rate you claim are way off.
    Due you publish audit information on the claims aganst reality of rewards..
    And if not then why not?
    Is ther a legal requirement that you must meet?

    In my example i've opened about 28 Greater Gift Crystals and my desiered items are: 6star hero 0,06% chanse of getting, 5star hero 0,3%, 6star hero shards 9,5%, 5star nexus hero crystal 2%, 6star nexus hero crystal 0,5%.
    This adds up to 12,36% of getting a desiered item.
    But that i should atleast get a desiered item 3 times out of all my ggc openings and i have goten 0



    Nearly 90% chance to get what you do not want live with it and stopping opening ggc except for fun.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    Komfen said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Here we go again...

    Ther is a reason why posts like this one pops up again and again tho.
    because people don't understand what drop rates are. Some people open 30 and don't get any shards. some people open 2 and get a 6* nexus
  • SquirrelguySquirrelguy Member Posts: 2,653 ★★★★★
    Honestly, over the course of playing the game for 5 years, I’ve had some of the worst crystal luck, and some of the best, depending on the crystal, how many I opened, and just rng in general. You may have terrible pulls from these ggc crystals, and your friends might too, but if you keep playing, you might get super lucky later on.

    The moral of this game is that you have to do the best with the champions that you pull. Clearly it will be easier if you have amazing pulls, but maybe you’ll get more satisfaction from beating content with lower star champs, or “worse” champs. Just a thought.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★
    Komfen said:

    Hi guys, I'm writing a review of this game.
    I've been enjoying this game a lot, but one thing i have found odd..
    By personal experience and a couple of other players i've checked with aswell the crystal drop rate you claim are way off.
    Due you publish audit information on the claims aganst reality of rewards..
    And if not then why not?
    Is ther a legal requirement that you must meet?

    In my example i've opened about 28 Greater Gift Crystals and my desiered items are: 6star hero 0,06% chanse of getting, 5star hero 0,3%, 6star hero shards 9,5%, 5star nexus hero crystal 2%, 6star nexus hero crystal 0,5%.
    This adds up to 12,36% of getting a desiered item.
    But that i should atleast get a desiered item 3 times out of all my ggc openings and i have goten 0



    It's per crystal not cumulative.
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  • DannyB01DannyB01 Member Posts: 471 ★★★
    The fact you think the results of 28 GGCs is statistically significant is laughable.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,122 ★★★★★
    The one point made above that is actually a solid one is the notion of audit information. Once a quarter, it would be interesting to see how certain crystal results played out versus expected outcomes.

    Then again, more information might also lead to more confusion...

    Dr. Zola
  • KattohSKattohS Member Posts: 717 ★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    Here we go again...

    Yup
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