Sunspot vs Red Hulk bug

Sunspot is currently bugged against red hulk. Sunspot should be regaining his solar charges as red hulk shrugs them off, but his solar charges are just going down. This video is against the red hulk boss in book 2 act 1 chapter 1 quest 3. I’ve fought this matchup many times before and sunspot has always recovered his solar charges until this time.

https://youtu.be/WkcZ85iv1AQ

Comments

TheBair123

So Red Hulk is different. Normally, if a champion was "immune" to a debuff, they just wouldn't be able to receive it. With red hulk, he gets the incinerate debuff, but then purifies it in about 0.1 seconds. So he still receives the debuff, but he just purifies it very quickly.

TheBair123

So Red Hulk is different. Normally, if a champion was "immune" to a debuff, they just wouldn't be able to receive it. With red hulk, he gets the incinerate debuff, but then purifies it in about 0.1 seconds. So he still receives the debuff, but he just purifies it very quickly.

This is just what I've read from both of their abilities. I don't have either of these champs so I'm not an expert on them, so please correct me if I read something wrong

Crcrcrc

From what I've seen with Red Hulk's interaction with Apoc and Sunspot, his ability isn't counted as a purify, but as a debuff removal. Apoc gives -100% purify chance, and Red Hulk bypasses that, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Huskers327

So Red Hulk is different. Normally, if a champion was "immune" to a debuff, they just wouldn't be able to receive it. With red hulk, he gets the incinerate debuff, but then purifies it in about 0.1 seconds. So he still receives the debuff, but he just purifies it very quickly.
This is just what I've read from both of their abilities. I don't have either of these champs so I'm not an expert on them, so please correct me if I read something wrong

You are correct. It is the fact that red hulk receives the debuff then purifies them that allows for sunspot to sustain his charges.

Notsavage19

They changed it with the last update. Red Hulk no longer "Purifies", he instead removes the debuff and says that he is "Immune" to that effect. This was due to an interaction with Apoc where Red Hulk would ignore the Purify chance reduction.

Huskers327

From what I've seen with Red Hulk's interaction with Apoc and Sunspot, his ability isn't counted as a purify, but as a debuff removal. Apoc gives -100% purify chance, and Red Hulk bypasses that, so I wouldn't be surprised.

I believe apoc actually gives -100% tenacity ability accuracy. I’m not sure if tenacity is coded differently than purify or not. My guess is that purify is not affected by ability accuracy, but that is just a guess. I think I’ve tried to reduce red hulk’s ability accuracy with archangel’s sp3 (100% chance to apply a neurotoxin) to see if I could add additional neurotoxins normally, but it didn’t work.

I can say for certain that this interaction with sunspot changed very recently as I used sunspot for that red hulk boss when I did my initial clear shortly after book 2 was released.

Huskers327

They changed it with the last update. Red Hulk no longer "Purifies", he instead removes the debuff and says that he is "Immune" to that effect. This was due to an interaction with Apoc where Red Hulk would ignore the Purify chance reduction.

Classic Kabam. “Fix” one thing, screw something else up.

Crcrcrc

From what I've seen with Red Hulk's interaction with Apoc and Sunspot, his ability isn't counted as a purify, but as a debuff removal. Apoc gives -100% purify chance, and Red Hulk bypasses that, so I wouldn't be surprised.
I believe apoc actually gives -100% tenacity ability accuracy. I’m not sure if tenacity is coded differently than purify or not. My guess is that purify is not affected by ability accuracy, but that is just a guess. I think I’ve tried to reduce red hulk’s ability accuracy with archangel’s sp3 (100% chance to apply a neurotoxin) to see if I could add additional neurotoxins normally, but it didn’t work.

I can say for certain that this interaction with sunspot changed very recently as I used sunspot for that red hulk boss when I did my initial clear shortly after book 2 was released.

No, it says purify. Check the abilities.

Huskers327

From what I've seen with Red Hulk's interaction with Apoc and Sunspot, his ability isn't counted as a purify, but as a debuff removal. Apoc gives -100% purify chance, and Red Hulk bypasses that, so I wouldn't be surprised.
I believe apoc actually gives -100% tenacity ability accuracy. I’m not sure if tenacity is coded differently than purify or not. My guess is that purify is not affected by ability accuracy, but that is just a guess. I think I’ve tried to reduce red hulk’s ability accuracy with archangel’s sp3 (100% chance to apply a neurotoxin) to see if I could add additional neurotoxins normally, but it didn’t work.

I can say for certain that this interaction with sunspot changed very recently as I used sunspot for that red hulk boss when I did my initial clear shortly after book 2 was released.

Looking back at it, I think that I used sunspot for that red hulk in beta and used someone else on the live server but brought sunspot as a backup. I didn’t end up using sunspot so I didn’t notice this interaction then.

Notsavage19

From what I've seen with Red Hulk's interaction with Apoc and Sunspot, his ability isn't counted as a purify, but as a debuff removal. Apoc gives -100% purify chance, and Red Hulk bypasses that, so I wouldn't be surprised.
I believe apoc actually gives -100% tenacity ability accuracy. I’m not sure if tenacity is coded differently than purify or not. My guess is that purify is not affected by ability accuracy, but that is just a guess. I think I’ve tried to reduce red hulk’s ability accuracy with archangel’s sp3 (100% chance to apply a neurotoxin) to see if I could add additional neurotoxins normally, but it didn’t work.

I can say for certain that this interaction with sunspot changed very recently as I used sunspot for that red hulk boss when I did my initial clear shortly after book 2 was released.
Looking back at it, I think that I used sunspot for that red hulk in beta and used someone else on the live server but brought sunspot as a backup. I didn’t end up using sunspot so I didn’t notice this interaction then.

Yeah, I tried using Sunspot and failed miserably.

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