Is Thronebreaker worth it?

Thronebreaker benefits;
Somewhat better drops out of 4hour and daily crystals.
Better black market (if u pay)
1x cav crystal every 2 weeks
A title 😉

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Berjibs

Infinitely better daily crystals. Get enough rank up stuff from those that I don’t need to play in a proper alliance anymore. 5* Shards and champs are a bonus when they come around and even got a few drops of T5cc 10%.

Better calendar too for rank up mats. Glory store is also quite a bit better value and you can buy the T5cc if you’re chasing more r3s.

DrZola

Need a third choice: It Depends.

If you aren’t running Map 7 and getting loads of T5c/T2a and you have to (a) spend a ton and/or (b) R3 a 6* champ like Groot, Rhino, Karnak, Green Goblin, Beast or Iron Fist—absolutely not.

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Etjama

Depends on the situation. Being TB myself, I never would have ranked up a bad champ for TB. But I would've ranked some champs that people may not consider to be top options like Mysterio, P99, SPX, Roblin for example.

Agent_X_zzz

Its the next step in progression for your account, of course it is worth it.

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KevanproG

I just unlocked it few days ago so far it's just a nice bonus the 24 hr crystal is really good ngl

DNA3000

Is Thronebreaker worth what? should be the question. I didn't pay anything to become Thronebreaker. I ranked a champ I don't play often, but as that champ was Ghost no one's going to be shedding any tears for me there. I did content I would have done anyway, so whatever I resources I spent on Act 6 completion I would have spent regardless (and spent before hand). So in a sense, Thronebreaker didn't cost me anything except a rank up choice. It is certainly worth a lot more than the nothing I spent to get it.

Thronebreaker has benefits. They are worth something. The requirements are basically complete Act 6 and rank up an r3. If those two things are in reach, and they don't cost significantly more today than they would in the reasonable future, then it is worth it.

There is an opportunity cost to ranking up any champion: you're spending resources you could spend on a stronger champ if you get one. So ranking up something today has a cost, but waiting also has a cost (you forgo TB rewards). Whichever cost is lower, go that way. How you assess that is a somewhat subjective question.

Pseudouber

Yeah, its a bit better but they really need a Throne breaker daily deal or provide is discount on the Cav daily.

Gildenlow

These should answer your question.

DrZola

These should answer your question.

Completely non-representative of the typical Daily TB.

Dr. Zola

Gildenlow

These should answer your question.

Completely non-representative of the typical Daily TB.

Dr. Zola

If I can get at least one of this a month, I still think it's totally worth it.

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Rasilover

Worth it unless its a garbage champ rank up decision

Mobile_P0tat0

I think the biggest perk of TB are the July and cyber weekend deals, if you're not planning on spending during those events it's not worth doing a bad rankup

Pyrda

Only people who aren’t TB will vote with a no... the Daily crystal is Great at least 18t t4b shards, sometimes 5k shards t5cc shards or t5bc t2a. You get 5% t5cc every week from the glory store etc. I pushed to TB for the Black Friday deals by clearing abyss, now I have 4 r3 6* it’s really a faster Progression you will have with this title!

DrZola

@Ebony_Naw and @Gildenlow

Perhaps.

Obviously, I don’t have as long a history with TB dailies as either of you, but I’ve yet to see a full cat that was anything more than a T4b/T4c (and even those have been rare).

Here’s @DNA3000 chart from a few weeks ago. His experience at that point didn’t suggest it was raining full T5b/T2a for him either.

Perhaps it’s just a streak of bad luck, but if you take his pulls from
that 90+ day period and my experience since early January, that’s equivalent to a four-month run with only a single full T2a and no full T5b.

So...if by “often” you mean once a quarter, then yes. I don’t doubt it happens—I just think building unrealistic expectations around TB dailies is a disservice to the community.

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DNA3000

In terms of full cats, I’ve only gotten a full T2A once and a full T5B never. But in terms of accumulated cats and frags total, I’ve been averaging about half a T5B and a little more than 2 T2A per month on average from the daily crystals.

I still can’t say what the averages are, but I suspect that’s not far from the average.

DrZola

In terms of full cats, I’ve only gotten a full T2A once and a full T5B never. But in terms of accumulated cats and frags total, I’ve been averaging about half a T5B and a little more than 2 T2A per month on average from the daily crystals.

I still can’t say what the averages are, but I suspect that’s not far from the average.

That feels about right.

And it’s great for a “free” crystal. I’m not disputing that.

But it’s fair to note that it is probably likelier you pull a 4* from a PHC than it is to pull one of the top end prizes from a TB daily. And that puts it into a tangible perspective most players can relate to.

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BigBlueOx

I think the spreadsheet is a great example of why it’s worth it. Cav daily’s don’t vomit t4 like that, tTB daily is great for deepening the roster. My pool of usable 5stars dramatically increased as a result of pushing for TB. Which means an easier time getting T5cc through other channels outside of Map7. Act7 buffing 6stars also should lower the floor of who to R3. The champ doesn’t need to be god tier anymore, just someone with utility and decent damage. My hindsight threshold would be unduped KM. Back when I made the choice I might have ranked Groot

Gildenlow

Well I guess it's just rng.

I have also opened 20k 6 stars shards. Didn't screenshot the first time because of so much emotion

DrZola

Well I guess it's just rng.

I have also opened 20k 6 stars shards. Didn't screenshot the first time because of so much emotion

Amazing! Seriously. You have some kind of mystical power. I am totally envious!

I got pumped with my second full T4b in a month...

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DNA3000

Well I guess it's just rng.

One thing that most humans have a hard time wrapping their minds around is the fact that very low probability events are often simultaneously extremely unlikely to happen to them, and yet extremely likely to happen to someone. Someone always wins the lottery. Almost no one wins the lottery.

I haven't seen 6* shards in 119 crystal openings. But if you assume at least a hundred thousand TB dailies have been opened (assuming 2000 TB players who have averaged opening half that many, as the number of TB players has grown over time: I suspect the number is higher than this) the 6* shard drop rate could be 0.1% (one in a thousand) and still have over a hundred of those drops show up somewhere. Maybe as many as one in twenty players might have gotten that drop at least once, which still means 95% of all players have yet to see it, but the odds of knowing someone that did see it are not terribly low.

The average player might see 6* shards once every three years on average, and yet feel like they are surrounded by players getting that drop.

DrZola

Well I guess it's just rng.
One thing that most humans have a hard time wrapping their minds around is the fact that very low probability events are often simultaneously extremely unlikely to happen to them, and yet extremely likely to happen to someone. Someone always wins the lottery. Almost no one wins the lottery.

I haven't seen 6* shards in 119 crystal openings. But if you assume at least a hundred thousand TB dailies have been opened (assuming 2000 TB players who have averaged opening half that many, as the number of TB players has grown over time: I suspect the number is higher than this) the 6* shard drop rate could be 0.1% (one in a thousand) and still have over a hundred of those drops show up somewhere. Maybe as many as one in twenty players might have gotten that drop at least once, which still means 95% of all players have yet to see it, but the odds of knowing someone that did see it are not terribly low.

The average player might see 6* shards once every three years on average, and yet feel like they are surrounded by players getting that drop.

Excellent point.

As a PSA to the TB and almost-TB community, I should start posting my daily 18K T4b shards to provide a counterpoint.

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Gildenlow

Now Im just pessimist about my future opnenings.

I mean, by that logic I already won the lottery more than once.

Corkscrew

One thing that most humans have a hard time wrapping their minds around is the fact that very low probability events are often simultaneously extremely unlikely to happen to them, and yet extremely likely to happen to someone. Someone always wins the lottery. Almost no one wins the lottery.

The above is very true and is only exacerbated by access to the Internet.
1) Most people only post things which are noteworthy, they don't post their junk. Success is overrepresented.
2) You don't know what you don't know. For example, where it relates to crystal openings, players could be dumping in a stack of units and money to get more chances. They could have statistically below average drop rates, but appear statistically above average outwardly.

Often it seems like everyone else is striking gold and you're the only one with rocks.

Legendary_Poey

I haven't managed to pull any 6* shards, 5* champs, or t5cc from the daily crystals (been tb since before cyber) yet, however I have opened quite the large amount t5b and t2a. Probably somewhere around 5 t5b and 8-10 t2a. The biggest difference in those deals on cyber and presumably 4th. I would rank up a trash champ like groot (could get buffed) to get access to the better deals if I planned on buying odins or treasure chests.

DrZola

Hey my luck’s looking up—half a Science T4c today!

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DrZola

Update: Approximately 45 days in and my first full cat that wasn’t a T4c or a T4b. Still looking at ~66% of the time the Daily is either 50% T4c, 50% T4b or 10% T5b.

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