why so much hate for elsa?

ProximaMidnight_8ProximaMidnight_8 Member Posts: 285 ★★
edited March 2021 in General Discussion
I see so much elsa hate in the forums and I understand that she doesn't have a lot of utility but her damage is respectable and every once in a while she can parry with guaranteed zero damage. She can also shrug debuffs. I love my 6 star elsa and I'm so confused why people say she's bad. In the right scenario, she can burst down opponents really fast
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  • RaviDaviRaviDavi Member Posts: 800 ★★★
    ProximaMidnight_8 said:

    I see so much elsa hate in the forums and I understand that she doesn't have a lot of utility but her damage is respectable and every once in a while she can parry with guaranteed zero damage. She can also shrug debuffs. I love my 6 star elsa and I'm so confused why people say she's bad. In the right scenario, she can burst down opponents really fast

    I don't care about it anymore. She was my first 5 star skill and it just feels so satisfying and smooth to fight with her. My second 5 star skill came months later so by that time I spent so long learning her abilities that I still use her even though other champs outshine her.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    If you play aggressively with her, the Damage is just there.
  • Hera1d_of_Ga1actusHera1d_of_Ga1actus Member Posts: 2,439 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    do you think she's a top 3 skill?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    do you think she's a top 3 skill?
    I don't really create a Top List. There are different situations for different uses, and I don't think it's a healthy way to look at Champs in general. All I know is she's good enough for me to use more than Doom, depending on what I need.
  • Hera1d_of_Ga1actusHera1d_of_Ga1actus Member Posts: 2,439 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    do you think she's a top 3 skill?
    I don't really create a Top List. There are different situations for different uses, and I don't think it's a healthy way to look at Champs in general. All I know is she's good enough for me to use more than Doom, depending on what I need.
    is she better than almost all the other skill champs in most scenarios you will commonly find yourself in, except maybe two who are better than her when it comes to general game stuff
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,963 ★★★★★
    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    If you play aggressively with her, the Damage is just there.

    Reminds me of iHulk.

    Too bad neither have much utility.

    I mean, iHulk kinda has the opposite of utility. He kills himself.
    Then revives himself. And counters Spectre. And hits harder than Elsa.
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    do you think she's a top 3 skill?
    I don't really create a Top List. There are different situations for different uses, and I don't think it's a healthy way to look at Champs in general. All I know is she's good enough for me to use more than Doom, depending on what I need.
    is she better than almost all the other skill champs in most scenarios you will commonly find yourself in, except maybe two who are better than her when it comes to general game stuff
    When I need significant short bursts of Damage, yes.
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  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    If you play aggressively with her, the Damage is just there.

    Reminds me of iHulk.

    Too bad neither have much utility.

    I mean, iHulk kinda has the opposite of utility. He kills himself.
    Then revives himself. And counters Spectre. And hits harder than Elsa.
    With a cooldown on the revive.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.

    I read these just now and am confused. Why would you use Elsa in Warlock’s place?

    Just made me think of Havok vs Elsa...
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.

    I read these just now and am confused. Why would you use Elsa in Warlock’s place?

    Just made me think of Havok vs Elsa...
    Her Damage is faster. Warlock takes longer to build, whereas she has them down within a few Busted and an L1. Half the time I don't ever make it to the L2. She's bomb Attack. Plus that Evade helps from getting whiffed.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.

    I read these just now and am confused. Why would you use Elsa in Warlock’s place?

    Just made me think of Havok vs Elsa...
    Her Damage is faster. Warlock takes longer to build, whereas she has them down within a few Busted and an L1. Half the time I don't ever make it to the L2. She's bomb Attack. Plus that Evade helps from getting whiffed.
    What content are you doing that a 6* r2 Elsa can get opponents down in one L1? Kinda seems like it doesn’t matter who you use in that sort of content.
  • SpinnakerSpinnaker Member Posts: 271 ★★★
    edited March 2021
    Yeah it doesn't matter that she is or isn't the top of her class. She has her uses where she truly shines, and she's gotten me through some roadblocks that I couldn't pass with top champs of the meta like nick fury (ie the 7.1.6 Gwenperion) which is why I think she's an overall well made and useful champ.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.

    I read these just now and am confused. Why would you use Elsa in Warlock’s place?

    Just made me think of Havok vs Elsa...
    Her Damage is faster. Warlock takes longer to build, whereas she has them down within a few Busted and an L1. Half the time I don't ever make it to the L2. She's bomb Attack. Plus that Evade helps from getting whiffed.
    Warlock isnt a damage champ..?

    If im bursting some small healthpool down i am 99% sure than Domino trinity is faster or Cull is faster.
    Where did I say he wasn't a Damage Champ? I said I can have them down faster with Elsa in most cases.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.

    I read these just now and am confused. Why would you use Elsa in Warlock’s place?

    Just made me think of Havok vs Elsa...
    Her Damage is faster. Warlock takes longer to build, whereas she has them down within a few Busted and an L1. Half the time I don't ever make it to the L2. She's bomb Attack. Plus that Evade helps from getting whiffed.
    Warlock isnt a damage champ..?

    If im bursting some small healthpool down i am 99% sure than Domino trinity is faster or Cull is faster.
    Where did I say he wasn't a Damage Champ? I said I can have them down faster with Elsa in most cases.
    Why would you bring up using her over Warlock though? You arent gonna use Warlock for bursting champs. Of course Elsa will get them down faster.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.

    I read these just now and am confused. Why would you use Elsa in Warlock’s place?

    Just made me think of Havok vs Elsa...
    Her Damage is faster. Warlock takes longer to build, whereas she has them down within a few Busted and an L1. Half the time I don't ever make it to the L2. She's bomb Attack. Plus that Evade helps from getting whiffed.
    Warlock isnt a damage champ..?

    If im bursting some small healthpool down i am 99% sure than Domino trinity is faster or Cull is faster.
    Where did I say he wasn't a Damage Champ? I said I can have them down faster with Elsa in most cases.
    Why would you bring up using her over Warlock though? You arent gonna use Warlock for bursting champs. Of course Elsa will get them down faster.
    Because he's one of those "Top Champs" people consider. So there was a point to that.
    The bottom line is she's really good. If people like her, use her. This business about hating on her and hating on people who like her is a bit juvenile. She's good.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Masterpuff said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm sorry but she's not over-rated. I have her R2 Unduped and she's my first go-to on my Roster.

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Before my R2 Duped Warlock.

    I read these just now and am confused. Why would you use Elsa in Warlock’s place?

    Just made me think of Havok vs Elsa...
    Her Damage is faster. Warlock takes longer to build, whereas she has them down within a few Busted and an L1. Half the time I don't ever make it to the L2. She's bomb Attack. Plus that Evade helps from getting whiffed.
    Warlock isnt a damage champ..?

    If im bursting some small healthpool down i am 99% sure than Domino trinity is faster or Cull is faster.
    Where did I say he wasn't a Damage Champ? I said I can have them down faster with Elsa in most cases.
    Why would you bring up using her over Warlock though? You arent gonna use Warlock for bursting champs. Of course Elsa will get them down faster.
    Because he's one of those "Top Champs" people consider. So there was a point to that.
    The bottom line is she's really good. If people like her, use her. This business about hating on her and hating on people who like her is a bit juvenile. She's good.
    Quake is THE top champ, Elsa bursting people down faster than her doesnt mean anything.
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