7.2 closed beta

Are those players in the 7.2 closed beta going to be excluded from the legend run? As that’s an extreme advantage they will have over the rest of the player base

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xNig

When I was given access to test the Grandmaster fight for 6.4, I was told that in doing so, I will forfeit my entitlement in doing a Legends run. So I said no.

A few days later, I was contacted again that beta testing it will not cause my disqualification for the legends run. I then agreed.

Wanna guess why the decision on legends run disqualification was reversed?

Demonzfyre

I'm saying either fighting the fight yourself or watching a video on the fight is the same thing. There are people in this world who are visual learners and there are people in this world who learn by doing.

So to answer your question, both ways can give any person an advantage depending how they best learn. You may learn by doing which means you focus strictly on that ability and are applying it to everyone to make it a point.

Then there are some that are just skilled and it won't matter who they fight.

xNig

You’re wrong. The amount of beta testers will reduce drastically, especially on the top end, the most “seasoned and experienced” group.

They are the ones who will give quality feedback given their knowledge and experience, but also the ones who are most interested in doing a legends run.

(I’ve seen beta testers not know how Diss track or buffed up work.. it’s ridiculous.)

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xNig

It’s simple really. The group that were contacted to test the GM fight were the top end group, most likely, and as mentioned above, the group that have the deepest rosters and most likely to go for a legends run.

My guess is that no one agreed to test the fight given the disqualification criteria. Not to mention that during the beta test, rewards will never be made known and no one will willingly forfeit their chance at the additional rewards.

Also, with the exception of the first initial closed beta for 6.1 (when a very small group of very experienced players were asked to test it), the subsequent betas (imo) were filled with players with either very limited game knowledge, or shouldn’t be there in the first place.

So yeah.. removing the legends run entitlement for beta testers isn’t the way (not to mention fights are subjected to change in the beta).

Demonzfyre

It's never ending with you. So now by what you just said, anyone who can learn by watching has an unfair advantage.

Worknprogress

It's not and has never been level ground. People hoovering up every offer and crystal with multiple teams of R3s have an advantage over those that don't. So I guess that's a 3rd bracket that we need now. People that have gotten luckier with champ and catalyst pulls but are f2p have an advantage over those less lucky. There's a 4th bracket. You can make lord knows how many different brackets for every advantage there is but at the end of the day, it's never going to be level. This whole argument is flat out silly imo.

Pulyaman

What Kabam could do is give an overview of the content that is to be released, maps, nodes etc so as to judge the difficulty of the content. They could have their own employees test the gameplay aspect to figure out the bugs. I know its not a perfect solution since the community is huge and will get more done.
Alternatively, they could offer the beta testing option to everyone with the rider that Beta testers will have a separate legends run timer with additional rewards(Like 25% nexus t5cc) which can entice more top tier players to go for beta and that legends run. Not perfect ideas but it could be refined.

Worknprogress

No one is arguing against that doing the beta absolutely has potential to be an advantage, and a substantial one more than likely. Saying that's what makes things an uneven playing field is what I take a massive issue with.

The advantage some can potentially gain is absolutely worth having those people actually still willing to test content though imo. All you have to do is look at the amount of things players catch in monthly releases that get completely missed in internal testing. If all you want is internally tested content, good luck to all of us.

Demonzfyre

So does watching youtube videos.

Worknprogress

That's irrelevant though bc those spending advantages may be technically "available" to everyone, but they're just not in reality.

Having an advantage either matters or it doesn't as far as I'm concerned. You either have to eliminate them all or you don't actually have a leg to stand on.

Pulyaman

Why would you disagree and not offer any alternative solution?

Demonzfyre

So we agree that there isn't an advantage since everyone can plan via youtube videos. Cool.

Demonzfyre

You just said watching YouTube is available to everyone and allows them to plan ahead giving them the same advantage.

Worknprogress

And obviously Kabam disagrees with it being unfair or at least agrees that having those people willing to actually participate in betas is worth the potential advantage.

You can't cherry pick which advantages you deem okay. That's my whole issue with that side of the argument. Oh this is okay, and this is okay, but I don't like that so I'm saying it's unfair. You just lose any credibility at that point with me.

CoatHang3r

pRActICinG On tHe BetA Is nOT An AdvAnTAgE!

I mean come on guys people don’t train to win they just go in blind and win. Ffs

Wiredawg1

Then tell kabam that. As if you remember the small group that did 6.1 couldn’t do legend run....saying unfair advantage....ones who did grandmaster they allowed. To me should be reversed....if it’s a fight no one else in game can practice on they should be excluded as they can get all the practice they want learn the specials learn who best champ is. The main beta isn’t what I talking about. It’s the 7.2.6 boss I am

Kabam Miike

Those in Betas will not be excluded from Legends Runs. They have not been in the past, and will not be this time around. Based on the winners of previous Legends Runs compared to Beta Testers, we do not feel there is much of an advantage given to them.

Most successful Legends Runs are done towards the end of the eligibility period after players have spent the time studying videos and content from others before making their runs.

Further, when it comes to introducing new End Game and Story content, we do not want to sacrifice the important feedback that our most experienced players might have by disqualifying them from a Legends Run if they choose to take part in a Beta Test that ultimately helps shape the content for all to enjoy.