Super indecisive, which to R3

Warlock, Ghost or Guilotine 2099 all un-duped.

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Once again you changed what we were comparing. We are comparing heavies. Not 3 hit combos. Why would a 3 hit combo apply to this? You have no idea who nick fury is clearly.

Plinko

Don’t waste your time. I think he might be an alt account of grounded. He’s gonna ignore any facts provided and keep saying everybody hits every hit of their heavies which is easily proven false.

Etjama

🤦‍♂️ We are not comparing heavies, we are comparing champions' abilties to deal with stunnable evade champs. That's what it's been about this whole time. And that's why I've been mentioning 3 combos this whole entire time. 3 combos have everything to do with it since every since it's one of the ways you deal with a stunnable evade champ.

Plinko

No that’s been your argument with yourself. We directly were discussing colossus heavy and the passive fury working because they don’t evade during it. You brought up 3 hit combos for some reason and started arguing it with yourself. Anybody can 3 hit combo. That has nothing to do with the heavy and the passive fury we were discussing. You for some reason think it gave you a leg up in this debate and you just keep jumping on it when it has nothing to do with the debate of heavies landing and the usefulness of a fury on the heavy that lands

Crcrcrc

He is saying that literally everyone can counter evade in the way colo does, with 3 hit combos or heavies, so the fury is not a utility that is special.
Try to understand what he is saying instead of just calling him a GW alt

Etjama

Are you actually kidding me right now?
"Anybody can 3 hit combo" this is the only accurate thing you've said. Since the very beginning, I have been talking about Colossus's ability to counter stunnable evade champs. I have repeatedly said that any champ can do that. Cause any champ can. I never said any champ can do that with a heavy, I brought up 3 combos too. Because any champ in the game can use either a heavy, or a 3 combo to deal with stunnable evade champs.

Plinko

That wasn’t the original question. The original question was “is colossus useful for evadable champs?” And I was saying yes he is because his playstyle is parry stun heavy and his best damage comes from his heavy and the defender never evades the second hit. You changed the question mid debate to whether anybody can counter it. This is where I exit. This isn’t even a debate anymore. You just simply want to win and not admit the original statement that you made that colossus doesn’t have much utility was incorrect to tell other people learning the game in the forums. Bleed immune, frostbite immune, coldsnap immune, stacked armors that also increase attack, incinerate immune, reflects damage on parries, and we somehow dwell on whether passive furies fit the subjective term of utility. Ignoring that he has at least 6 forms of utility. Period.

Now I’m done. This conversation didn’t belong here and needs to end.

Etjama

Cya buddy, this was fun. I love reading immense amounts of hypocrisy and unintelligible nonsense. The question was never about Colossus's heavy, but about his ability to counter stunnable evade champs in relation to every other champ in the game. And this conversation didn't belong here in the first place and I didn't even bring it up, CaptainGame did. This is where I'll exit too, and I can walk away knowing that I was trying to debate with facts rather than twisting words that were never said.

CaptainGame

Facts? Like “I don’t think colossus has lots of utility?” He and others listed facts and you listed OPINIONS on whether that was “lots of utility”

Hence why I opened with people should do their own research and rank who they like rather than listening to people like you who don’t give the actual facts, but opinions on who you like to use.

Dr. Crab

Actually...the question was who to use my Tech T5CC on...apparently the answer is Colossus.

Etjama

Sure, people keep saying that every champ can't do that, but they're wrong since literally every single champ in this game can parry and throw heavies or 3 combos. Acting like it's some unique thing that Colossus can deal with stunnable evade champs is absolutely ridiculous.

Plinko

Nick fury often missed his third hit of his heavy when parrying and using it due to the stun timer running out. That’s just one. Thing has the same problem.

Crcrcrc

I think you are not understanding him. You can throw either a heavy or a 3 hit combo after a parry on mix master with no evades

ddom

Honestly should be an easy decision. If you can play ghost decently, it's her.

If you hate her playstyle, it's Warlock