The T5CC Bundle what are the 5-25% odds?

Kabam, What are the odds on these crystals. Don't you have to list it? I'm not going to spend 40 bucks on 5% lol. Need to know if there is even a more than 1% chance to get 25% with the gamble.

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TrashyPanda

Being legal doesn't mean being respectable. If a company tries to skirt the law in something so trivial, one has to worry what they might do where it matters.

Pseudouber

Same people here saying they are not obligated to list individual odds for each increment are the ones who said Kabam chose to start releasing drop rates out of the goodness of their hearts and was done independently of the apple app store's policy. I question the ethics of their decision here, even if they are legally in the right to make it and it clearly is against what the purpose of the policy was in the first place.

Well, it clearly boosts the sales of Cav crystals showing the odds and then increasing them and I would think that it would do the same here if they showed odds to start and then increased them at some point. I just think it would be a good idea all around for Kabam and the people buying.

TitoBandito187

https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/10355942?hl=en

Are the odds of the randomized portion of the offer, clearly identified? Nope, just the odds of the one item, T5CC... Not the odds for the amount available between 5 and 25%.

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Kennado

It's always been a pretty lame way of fulfilling the bare minimum disclosure requirements for their loot crates.

Kennado

Honestly RNG gamble deals are the worst type of deal in the game so it stands to reason that this offer shouldn't even be up for a debate. $40 for a guaranteed 2250 frags is garbage.

TitoBandito187

Report it and let Google/Apple decide.

https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2853570?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en

TyEdge

Same people here saying they are not obligated to list individual odds for each increment are the ones who said Kabam chose to start releasing drop rates out of the goodness of their hearts and was done independently of the apple app store's policy. I question the ethics of their decision here, even if they are legally in the right to make it and it clearly is against what the purpose of the policy was in the first place.
I should say "same person" because there's only one I remember distinctly from that thread back then. Other one will probably turn up on this thread sooner than later
I never said that if you are talking about me. When the whole Apple thing came about, I was "wait and see" what happens. I've always said if they are legally supposed to do it they will. The Gold crystals are the same thing but no one's complaining about them. They list 100% chance at gold because that's what they are.

This is a T5CC FRAGMENT CRYSTAL. You have 100% chance to pull fragments from the crystal. Kabam sells 6*'s during major holidays like 4th of July and Cyber weekend. Guess what, you have a 100% chance to get a 6* and each champion isn't listed. How is that any different than the T5CC frag crystal? It's not. People just want something to be mad at.

That’s a terrible analogy. Kabam has explicitly stated that every basic pool champ has an equal chance of popping out of a crystal. If we were dealing with a rotating or weighted pool, we would need that information.

For all we know, this deal is

5% t5 - 90%
10% t5 - 9%
15% t5 - .9%
25% t5 - .1%

Or 99% get 5% t5cc and 1% get 25% t5cc. Or 99% get 25% t5cc and everyone on the forum has rotten luck. Who could say? I think it’s unethical and bad business, so I won’t buy it. If other people are comfortable with the risk, I applaud your bravery, income or both.

Deacon

if you like to gamble go for it. but odds are you'll get the lowest available percentage.

TrubluMate

https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/10355942?hl=en

Are the odds of the randomized portion of the offer, clearly identified? Nope, just the odds of the one item, T5CC... Not the odds for the amount available between 5 and 25%.

I absolutely agree, Kabam are adhering to the letter of the regulations but not to the spirit.

As they stand, the word item counts as one item and not randomised quantities of said item. The spirit of it is to stop loot box gambling systems. I believe the spirit of it should cover randomised quantities of items, in order to stick to the spirit of why lootboxes have been regulated in the first place- which is to stop mainly young persons from spending money on these gambling loot boxes without the information

Looking at the wording they have to publish the rates of randomised virtual items. The virtual item itself is not randomised, but the quantity is. That would be how Kabam can get away with not showing the drop rate.

Technically by the wording they don’t have to give any drop rates but it is likely a ploy to show they are disclosing more than they need to and push it into the grey area if they are legally challenged.

Colinwhitworth69

I pulled a 5%.

-sixate-

Unless you're dying to become thronebreaker and 5% will put you over the top it's not worth the gamble.

Pseudouber

I made a poll lets see what the odd were.