İt's democracy and everyone's own opinion but ,lf anyone gonna vote to antman just because of his synergy I highly recommend don't do it,because if Ant Man get overhaul Kabam I know for 6 years going to change his synergies,so if you think ant man should get rework for itself not for synergies vote him but if you gonna vote just for synergies don't
Prepare to spam the disagree on my post but I agree
Btw I personally think Joe,jane and ant man all the three of them get complete rework but kabam probably won't do such thing in that case jane looks like best option because joe is beyond trash but actually have regen,bleed etc just need tune up,ant man have synergy,everyone have something but jane have nothing at all
At base, Jane Foster is without a doubt the best of those three.
Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff. Seriously. Buff Ant-Man
I think same he need buff but he can be good with tune up can you imagine his poison 2 times stronger he give more debuffs and glancing all the opponents hits so it means he can be good with tune up because he at least have something and like I said he will no longer have op synergies if he get rework,but can you tell me can jane be good with tune up?She has nothing
Dude if they changed any of Ghost’s synergies, people would just straight up quit the game. She’s one of the most, if not, the most beloved champs. Kabam wouldn’t mess with her.
They ruined dr strange and sw two best champion of the game back in these days it was way too much harder find sources can you imagine how much money players spender? İ can give you so many examples nothing gonna happened believe me
As if Kabam didn’t immediately learn their lesson from 12.0. That patch had devastating community pushbacks leading to large amounts of compensation. I highly doubt Kabam wants to try their hand at something like that ever again. Changing Ghost’s synergies would definitely elicit a similar response form the community.
Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff. Seriously. Buff Ant-Man
I think same he need buff but he can be good with tune up can you imagine his poison 2 times stronger he give more debuffs and glancing all the opponents hits so it means he can be good with tune up because he at least have something and like I said he will no longer have op synergies if he get rework,but can you tell me can jane be good with tune up?She has nothing
Jane foster has way more utility compared to ant man, stagger, energy resistance, shock resistance, stun chain, crit damage.
Ant man has glancing, which leads to slightly less block damage. Fatigue and a poison that deals as much damage as a 1*.
Ant mans abilities are 3 lines. What are you going to tune up?
Even if he glanced every hit, applied fatigue on every hit and the poison did nice damage he would still be overwhelmingly mediocre.
I’m not saying Jane only needs a tune up, but ant man could not possible only need a tune up
And again, you’re saying he’s guaranteed to have the synergy removed, which is completely unfounded and simply not confirmed.
Yeah it's not confirmed but we have so many past experience if anything become good kabam immediately remove it
1. As people keep telling you, Ant-Man doesn't have a synergy with Ghost. Ghost has a synergy with Ant-Man. So no change to Ant-Man can affect the Ghost synergy with Ant-Man. In general Kabam doesn't change all the synergy partners with a champion they update.
2. Past experience says that champion updates generally work out well for the players. Not only do most champions that are updated become far more playable as attackers, the opposite fear, that they will also become overly potent defenders, tends not to materialize. Consider Hulkbuster, which a lot of people were saying when the update was announced that it would suck for players because as a champion tagged as a "defensive:tank" he wouldn't get a lot of offense, but would instead become an annoying defender. I pointed out that would defeat the purpose of champion updates, which are to make the champions more attractive for players to get and play. Which was in fact how HB was buffed.
I haven't sat down and counted recently, but I would say the devs are batting better than 80% on champion updates making champions substantially more valuable to play on attack. They don't all become top tier champs, but the vast majority become at least somewhat useful if not highly useful.
İ don't think it's big problem for kabam they can easily change ghosts synergy
But they won’t. How are you not understanding this has never happened in 6 years when they remove a synergy from the partner of a buffed champ. Why do are you so certain this will happen now? If you don’t support the antman buff, that’s your prerogative. But using this as your argument is simply unfounded.
This has had happened earlier when Colossus was buffed.
Though synergies from other champion were not removed, they were reduced in potency.
Emma synergy with Colossus was scaled down to reduce power gain per armour buff.
Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff. Seriously. Buff Ant-Man
I think same he need buff but he can be good with tune up can you imagine his poison 2 times stronger he give more debuffs and glancing all the opponents hits so it means he can be good with tune up because he at least have something and like I said he will no longer have op synergies if he get rework,but can you tell me can jane be good with tune up?She has nothing
Jane foster has way more utility compared to ant man, stagger, energy resistance, shock resistance, stun chain, crit damage.
Ant man has glancing, which leads to slightly less block damage. Fatigue and a poison that deals as much damage as a 1*.
Ant mans abilities are 3 lines. What are you going to tune up?
Even if he glanced every hit, applied fatigue on every hit and the poison did nice damage he would still be overwhelmingly mediocre.
I’m not saying Jane only needs a tune up, but ant man could not possible only need a tune up
And again, you’re saying he’s guaranteed to have the synergy removed, which is completely unfounded and simply not confirmed.
Yeah it's not confirmed but we have so many past experience if anything become good kabam immediately remove it
1. As people keep telling you, Ant-Man doesn't have a synergy with Ghost. Ghost has a synergy with Ant-Man. So no change to Ant-Man can affect the Ghost synergy with Ant-Man. In general Kabam doesn't change all the synergy partners with a champion they update.
2. Past experience says that champion updates generally work out well for the players. Not only do most champions that are updated become far more playable as attackers, the opposite fear, that they will also become overly potent defenders, tends not to materialize. Consider Hulkbuster, which a lot of people were saying when the update was announced that it would suck for players because as a champion tagged as a "defensive:tank" he wouldn't get a lot of offense, but would instead become an annoying defender. I pointed out that would defeat the purpose of champion updates, which are to make the champions more attractive for players to get and play. Which was in fact how HB was buffed.
I haven't sat down and counted recently, but I would say the devs are batting better than 80% on champion updates making champions substantially more valuable to play on attack. They don't all become top tier champs, but the vast majority become at least somewhat useful if not highly useful.
İ don't think it's big problem for kabam they can easily change ghosts synergy
But they won’t. How are you not understanding this has never happened in 6 years when they remove a synergy from the partner of a buffed champ. Why do are you so certain this will happen now? If you don’t support the antman buff, that’s your prerogative. But using this as your argument is simply unfounded.
This has had happened earlier when Colossus was buffed.
Though synergies from other champion were not removed, they were reduced in potency.
Emma synergy with Colossus was scaled down to reduce power gain per armour buff.
But that didn’t affect Emma at all, that only affected colossus, the champion getting buffed.
Using your example, colossus (the buff) had his bonus from Emma (the synergy) slightly reduced, meaning less power per armour
So in this example, ant man (the buff) would have his bonus from ghost (the synergy) slightly reduced, so less attack per debuff.
Ghost wouldn’t be changed at all, this isn’t the best example to use.
Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff. Seriously. Buff Ant-Man
I think same he need buff but he can be good with tune up can you imagine his poison 2 times stronger he give more debuffs and glancing all the opponents hits so it means he can be good with tune up because he at least have something and like I said he will no longer have op synergies if he get rework,but can you tell me can jane be good with tune up?She has nothing
Jane foster has way more utility compared to ant man, stagger, energy resistance, shock resistance, stun chain, crit damage.
Ant man has glancing, which leads to slightly less block damage. Fatigue and a poison that deals as much damage as a 1*.
Ant mans abilities are 3 lines. What are you going to tune up?
Even if he glanced every hit, applied fatigue on every hit and the poison did nice damage he would still be overwhelmingly mediocre.
I’m not saying Jane only needs a tune up, but ant man could not possible only need a tune up
And again, you’re saying he’s guaranteed to have the synergy removed, which is completely unfounded and simply not confirmed.
Yeah it's not confirmed but we have so many past experience if anything become good kabam immediately remove it
1. As people keep telling you, Ant-Man doesn't have a synergy with Ghost. Ghost has a synergy with Ant-Man. So no change to Ant-Man can affect the Ghost synergy with Ant-Man. In general Kabam doesn't change all the synergy partners with a champion they update.
2. Past experience says that champion updates generally work out well for the players. Not only do most champions that are updated become far more playable as attackers, the opposite fear, that they will also become overly potent defenders, tends not to materialize. Consider Hulkbuster, which a lot of people were saying when the update was announced that it would suck for players because as a champion tagged as a "defensive:tank" he wouldn't get a lot of offense, but would instead become an annoying defender. I pointed out that would defeat the purpose of champion updates, which are to make the champions more attractive for players to get and play. Which was in fact how HB was buffed.
I haven't sat down and counted recently, but I would say the devs are batting better than 80% on champion updates making champions substantially more valuable to play on attack. They don't all become top tier champs, but the vast majority become at least somewhat useful if not highly useful.
İ don't think it's big problem for kabam they can easily change ghosts synergy
But they won’t. How are you not understanding this has never happened in 6 years when they remove a synergy from the partner of a buffed champ. Why do are you so certain this will happen now? If you don’t support the antman buff, that’s your prerogative. But using this as your argument is simply unfounded.
Now you can look at Hulkbusters synergy with Black Panther,it's nerfed from %40 to %25
Dude this is simple logic. They changed Black panthers part of the synergy not HB.
In this example, again, the champion who got buffed had his part of the synergy changed, not the champion who wasn’t getting buffed.
This would be like if Ant man had his attack from the ghost synergy reduced from 15% to 10%. Ghost would be unaffected.
Can you please pay attention to what’s happening and stop twisting facts to support your agenda.
Joe Fixit deserves it the most, he may not have the most basic kit but I’ve seen many players who actually use so called meme tier characters. I’ve never seen anyone play a high level Joe Fixit for anything.
We have a Joe fixit at R3, we don't have antman at R3. Who plays antman even at low level?
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Though synergies from other champion were not removed, they were reduced in potency.
Emma synergy with Colossus was scaled down to reduce power gain per armour buff.
Using your example, colossus (the buff) had his bonus from Emma (the synergy) slightly reduced, meaning less power per armour
So in this example, ant man (the buff) would have his bonus from ghost (the synergy) slightly reduced, so less attack per debuff.
Ghost wouldn’t be changed at all, this isn’t the best example to use.
In this example, again, the champion who got buffed had his part of the synergy changed, not the champion who wasn’t getting buffed.
This would be like if Ant man had his attack from the ghost synergy reduced from 15% to 10%. Ghost would be unaffected.
Can you please pay attention to what’s happening and stop twisting facts to support your agenda.