I used to so the 4* basic, 4* featured, 5* featured, and the 3* featured all milestones. Now, i will be doing one 6* arena and maybe summoner trials. No one wants to put up 33 million collective across two arenas with 456*s.
To increase rewards : set/round I think it'd be best to lower the milestones for the 6 star ones(5 mil points for highest milestones) to adjust with the rarity of higher 5/6*s and put a 3 star at 500k and 4 star at 1mil to reduce stress if ppl want to get a new champ to try out and let the competitive ppl do grind out for a 5/6* if they want
You had one job enjoyable gameplay way to drop the ball with this garbage as if the lag and game stabilities werent bad enough you give us this trash alternative to arenas thanks kabam for making the game worse instead of improving it
I used to so the 4* basic, 4* featured, 5* featured, and the 3* featured all milestones. Now, i will be doing one 6* arena and maybe summoner trials. No one wants to put up 33 million collective across two arenas with 456*s.
Yeah that's the thing I don't get. Only like .1% of the playerbase can even benefit from doing both of the 6* arenas.
@Kabam Miike anyone with a calculator/graduated middle school and can count will tell you that the effort between the old arenas and new are quite different. I am giving this a shot, i will give my full feedback after 3 days.
I'm giving it a shot too, but with abacus and kindergarden degree I can still tell you this is ridiculous hahaha. Don't expect much. Hoping for emergency maintenance rollback and reset.
What if the new arena points were like Doubloons Arena? It would be great for players that don't have wide 6* rosters cause all of champs gets the same X amount of points and there was no infinite streak.
I don't know maybe it's asking too much and it might make the rank rewards to go high but for a milestone grabber it would be amazing to have the same mechanism as Doubloons Arena in this arenas as well And it will give more choice for those who want to grab the 6* and 5* versions of champion to go with which champion they want to focus and play all of their roster on that arena which makes it kinda unfair for those who doesn't have wider rosters but it will be more fair for those who just want to grab milestones that in this case are a lot of playerbase kinda. it would give those with wider roster advantages that they have already but it will give adventage to those who doesn't have wide roster as well so it will be more sufficent.
Btw I'm not saying that every round should give us 45000 points like Doubloons Arena cause it would take 366 round but if 167 round of using only 6* Champs is the requirment to get all the milestones maybe if 30000 point per champ and 90000 per round will make it 167 round but still it's a lot of time
With old arena I could use my 2*s to max out one arena My 3*s to max out another arena My 4*s to max out a third arena My 5*s to hit millstones in a 4th arena As each star rating went on cool down I could move to the next
You could do multiple milestones in multiple arenas in between cooldowns
I don't want to grind just 1 arena, it makes it an actual grind
There was more a sense of accomplishment hitting multiple millstones in multiple arenas
Now it's just a big slog to try and hit higher milestones for less rewards in one arena
2 and 3*s are virtually useless now, using them will make it even more of a grind with less chance of hitting milestones
It was the same grind in the old arenas but you were hiring milestones all the time...it felt more worth it
Death matches are going to make trying the other 2 arenas pointless for anyone who doesn't have a large number of high ranked 5*s
So less achievable milestones, more time to hit them, less rewards, and much more boring....totally hate it
If kabam had launched these arena before may. I would have sold my 90% 3* and 2* champs. These changes are bad. They are saying if you don't have huge 6* roster you have no chance to get all the arena points. And also kabam is implying don't grind for for units we won't give u enough. It would be far better if old arena have 20 milestones. And they just launch new arena for 6*. And add rework champ as middle rank rework. And featured champ as top rank reward.
16.5M for one is too much and I am a milestone grinder. I will not be able to grind for 33M. Just can’t. As an FTP, guess my hopes for July 4th are in the trash
I'm Curious: Prior to these Changes, how many Milestones across all of the Arenas did you used to complete? If you don't remember that, do you remember how many Units approx you'd earn from Milestones per Arena run?
Our goal is to keep the effort roughly the same, but of course, with reducing the number of Arenas, that's going to be difficult. With the change of the rarities allowed in each Arena, the points are definitely going to be different, but we want to keep the effort roughly the same.
If that's not the case, we want to know! We won't know that on the first day or possibly even the first run, but please keep the feedback coming.
Everyone is talking about the new 6* arenas, which is great, but I want to speak up for the little guys as well. I personally have not yet made it to uncollected. I play arena to collect units and shards to improve my roster, but this change has made it harder to do so. There are no 5* shards in summoner trials, AT ALL! Not in the milestones, not in the rank rewards. How does this assist us in becoming uncollected faster?
You wanted actual numbers for comparison? Well here you go, I specifically made an excel file to keep track of my arena rewards from prior to the change, knock yourself out.
Old Arena System 4* Feature Arena: Up to the 650k milestone 4* Basic Arena: All milestones 3* Arena: up to the 320k milestone Summoner Trials: 90k milestone Grand Total: 232 units, 26600 shards, 25850 battle chips Total points: 650k+1.5mm+320k+90k = 2.56mm points
New Arena System Summoner Trials: All milestones Grand Total: 140 units, 14000 Shards, 15750 battle chips Total points: 2.15mm points
This is roughly half of the total milestone rewards from before for almost same amount of arena points. How does this make sense to you.
It's great that you are looking for feedback, but the fact that Kabam thought this was a change for the better shows just how disconnected you guys are from the player base.
That is great, but wait till you figure out you need to spend MORE time for LESS rewards.. hahaha. More is less sometimes I guess... More happy 1% top tier players, way way less actual player base.
This is just funny. In the old 3* featured arena we just need to reach 640,000 points to get that 3* champion if we want to unlock it for collection especially the new champs. Now we'll have to go for 6,250,000 points 😂. To hell with the collection anymore with this new structure.
We want the old arena structure back! We can still live with it day by day with the old milestone grinding, than die grinding endlessly for 3 days 😂
So lets call this what it is. It is a FTP arena grind nerf. It doesn't effect me overall but I can see the issue for losing easy units.
Solution bring back 2-4 star arenas. Break them up so people have easy access to those miles stones if they choose. I think that's the main issue and I understand the disappointment.
I won't be playing these arenas because I know I can't achieve the milestones for them, as the majority of my roster are mid level 5* champs so I can't maintain a win streak. I know I will get out powered because I attempt crystal trove every week but I can never hit all of the milestones. The trials arena aren't of any use to me as I'm uncollected and trying to build champs to go further into story and 4* champs aren't allowed in act6. As long as the catalyst arena continues atleast I can still do those to get units for my quests.
If the amount to get the milestones were way lower, it would be ok but the current milestones with 9 mil to get the 4* and less than 300 units is really bad
Im a free to play player. I play arena for units. Before, I did : - arena 3-4 stars : 135u, 1.5m - arena 4-5 stars : 135u, 4m - arena 4-6 stars : 135u, 12m
With the New arena, in order to have 405u, I will have to do both 6 stars arena at 16m. I like this game, but not enough to play 24/7
As free to play player, the only conclusion when i see this is that you dont want free to play player anymore.
This must be a joke....you want as to give even more efford and time just to take the same. New arena is disrespectful for summoners...we are unable to get all milestones since needs a lot of 6*..4* futured arena was the most value for time arena and you deleted it....less bc less units less more time...game starts to be annoying than fun...
This new arena is way to bad for the mid level players. I used to hit all the milestones of 4star basic and featured and some of 5star featured that gave me good amount of units. But this new arena with my roster I can't even get all the milestones of even one of the two arenas because milestones are way to high. This is just so not good.
I really did not like these new arenas, I understand that thanks to the 2 arenas out of 6 a gentleman or someone with a small rooster may have access to a 5-star rating, but putting this aside, the issue of units is serious. I have been a sandbox for about 6 months and always having runes keeps me satisfied in the game, however this takes me a long time and with these new arenas they have doubled my work and removed half the rewards ... I hope they can fix This since also 32M for 500 runes were not made before, with less Millions in different arenas you could get more ...
16.5M for one is too much and I am a milestone grinder. I will not be able to grind for 33M. Just can’t. As an FTP, guess my hopes for July 4th are in the trash
I'm Curious: Prior to these Changes, how many Milestones across all of the Arenas did you used to complete? If you don't remember that, do you remember how many Units approx you'd earn from Milestones per Arena run?
Our goal is to keep the effort roughly the same, but of course, with reducing the number of Arenas, that's going to be difficult. With the change of the rarities allowed in each Arena, the points are definitely going to be different, but we want to keep the effort roughly the same.
If that's not the case, we want to know! We won't know that on the first day or possibly even the first run, but please keep the feedback coming.
I am an a huge arena grinder. I will play in the feature 5 star arena about 150 rounds which will net me about 24 million points, This would get me 5000 k 5 star shards and 400 six star shard in every arena. I would do 4 million points in five star basic arena which is about 50 rounds. That means about 400 rounds a week to do it 2 times a week. This is about 13 hours of grinding a week. This new 16 million top milestone for both arena is too high. I will have to refresh my champs and spend more time grinding to get to the 32 million points on both arena. The points need to be adjusted for the milestones. How many people are going to grind 64 million in arena for milestones every week? I was doing about 56 million a week and that was a lot for a person not trying for the actual champ just to get some extra shards. I would suggest dropping both down to the original number of 12 million. That makes each more attainable for the serious milestone grinders. It will still be a lot of work since your 6 star champs need 11 hours to refresh with help. I would score higher in arenas if the 6 stars refreshed faster, but i run through my 6 stars 2 times a day and I have 83 of them. Please bring the milestone down or make 6 stars refresh 2 times as fast. Thank you for anything you can do to address this issue.
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What if the new arena points were like Doubloons Arena? It would be great for players that don't have wide 6* rosters cause all of champs gets the same X amount of points and there was no infinite streak.
I don't know maybe it's asking too much and it might make the rank rewards to go high but for a milestone grabber it would be amazing to have the same mechanism as Doubloons Arena in this arenas as well
And it will give more choice for those who want to grab the 6* and 5* versions of champion to go with which champion they want to focus and play all of their roster on that arena which makes it kinda unfair for those who doesn't have wider rosters but it will be more fair for those who just want to grab milestones that in this case are a lot of playerbase kinda. it would give those with wider roster advantages that they have already but it will give adventage to those who doesn't have wide roster as well so it will be more sufficent.
Btw I'm not saying that every round should give us 45000 points like Doubloons Arena cause it would take 366 round but if 167 round of using only 6* Champs is the requirment to get all the milestones maybe if 30000 point per champ and 90000 per round will make it 167 round but still it's a lot of time
With old arena I could use my 2*s to max out one arena
My 3*s to max out another arena
My 4*s to max out a third arena
My 5*s to hit millstones in a 4th arena
As each star rating went on cool down I could move to the next
You could do multiple milestones in multiple arenas in between cooldowns
I don't want to grind just 1 arena, it makes it an actual grind
There was more a sense of accomplishment hitting multiple millstones in multiple arenas
Now it's just a big slog to try and hit higher milestones for less rewards in one arena
2 and 3*s are virtually useless now, using them will make it even more of a grind with less chance of hitting milestones
It was the same grind in the old arenas but you were hiring milestones all the time...it felt more worth it
Death matches are going to make trying the other 2 arenas pointless for anyone who doesn't have a large number of high ranked 5*s
So less achievable milestones, more time to hit them, less rewards, and much more boring....totally hate it
It would be far better if old arena have 20 milestones. And they just launch new arena for 6*. And add rework champ as middle rank rework. And featured champ as top rank reward.
This is just funny.
In the old 3* featured arena we just need to reach 640,000 points to get that 3* champion if we want to unlock it for collection especially the new champs.
Now we'll have to go for 6,250,000 points 😂.
To hell with the collection anymore with this new structure.
We want the old arena structure back!
We can still live with it day by day with the old milestone grinding, than die grinding endlessly for 3 days 😂
Having a six-star champion is no longer difficult for advanced players. !!!
Solution bring back 2-4 star arenas. Break them up so people have easy access to those miles stones if they choose. I think that's the main issue and I understand the disappointment.
Im a free to play player. I play arena for units.
Before, I did :
- arena 3-4 stars : 135u, 1.5m
- arena 4-5 stars : 135u, 4m
- arena 4-6 stars : 135u, 12m
With the New arena, in order to have 405u, I will have to do both 6 stars arena at 16m. I like this game, but not enough to play 24/7
As free to play player, the only conclusion when i see this is that you dont want free to play player anymore.
Not convinced by this update, sorry
New arena is disrespectful for summoners...we are unable to get all milestones since needs a lot of 6*..4* futured arena was the most value for time arena and you deleted it....less bc less units less more time...game starts to be annoying than fun...