The new structure is bogus! It is only for those who have a super roster! In the old system I can get every milestone in every arena! I would have to grind like crazy them 3 days, but with my roster is could be done. I have 19 6*’s, and like 99 5*’s! That’s neat enough for to grind the new arenas to get the same milestones results. Like really 6.250 Million for a 3* Shang-Chi in the Feature arena?🤣 What a joke guys!! Then 9 Million for a 4* Shang-Chi? That’s doable, but 16 Million for the last milestone is messed up! And I’m not even promised the 5* champ! I think the new cutoff for that gonna be around 32 Million. This sucks guys! Either make a 5* Basic arena proper, or just continue to mess over the F2P players. Cause this is who this really messes up! The Whales don’t care what you guys do. They’re gonna use the power of the purse to beat any content that you throw at them, or pay someone to beat it! Also, ban VPN’s from the arena too! Too many cheaters in the top 100 anyways.
As for me, I am an early Cavalier player. I have about 11 6*s and a few couple of maxed 5*s or 5* rank 4s. The milestone required to get a featured 4* is now 9M.. Which is a lot for me. I'd need to play all day and night on each three days to get there, that is.... Not quite worth my time. I mean., it's a four star that won't be that much relevant to me if not for just the synergies.
Still, I tried out to see how much convenient it is now to get a new Four Star Champion on this new arena format. And triggered a Death Match on the 23rd or the 24th win streak by my team rating of about 10k (about 3.3k for each champs : 2 5*s , 1 4* , no sandbagging). And got a team that has rating of 50K (about 18k each) to fight against. Not a ninja player , lost the score multiplyer as expected.. And lost the interest for playing too.
Don't know what kinda feedback you're expecting.. But I guess there are definitely some issues that requires some tune ups.
As for me, I am an early Cavalier player. I have about 11 6*s and a few couple of maxed 5*s or 5* rank 4s. The milestone required to get a featured 4* is now 9M.. Which is a lot for me. I'd need to play all day and night on each three days to get there, that is.... Not quite worth my time. I mean., it's a four star that won't be that much relevant to me if not for just the synergies.
Still, I tried out to see how much convenient it is now to get a new Four Star Champion on this new arena format. And triggered a Death Match on the 23rd or the 24th win streak by my team rating of about 10k (about 3.3k for each champs : 2 5*s , 1 4* , no sandbagging). And got a team that has rating of 50K (about 18k each) to fight against. Not a ninja player , lost the score multiplyer as expected.. And lost the interest for playing too.
Don't know what kinda feedback you're expecting.. But I guess there are definitely some issues that requires some tune ups.
It’s impossible to reach milestones for those that actually have jobs and don’t spend all day in the game. This isn’t it Kabam.
Oh, and for the record. 1-5% should be awarded the 5* also in this system! Cause if you does nothing to fix it? You’re messing over the F2P players! Especially in the Basic arena this should be a thing already.
All in all, the new arena was made specifically for whales and end game thronebreaker players, not for average newly Uncollected and especially F2P players. Case closed!
The whole stamina refresh system should be removed.
This way, only players with the roster, skill, and time for it will compete for the prizes. And so p2w players who are literally throwing units at it can be removed, since the arena shouldn't be a question of how much you can spend, but rather how much you can play.
Also, the 5-star basic champion at least should be in a % rank reward. Not top 500, where that will easily be flooded with players that only know how to use units to refresh champions
First of all, I have to say that I very much welcome the changes and also find them mostly good, like having 3,4* champs in the milestones. Nevertheless, after the first day I have a few things to note:
- will there be a way to upgrade the 3* (x1.5) arena crystals? With the new arena they are...useless. With the bigger arena crystals 3* (x3.0) you still have an advantage over the 4* boosters (x1.5) but it just feels wrong. Will there be any change regarding this?
-If you don't have a wide 6* roster, how will you be able to farm the majority of the milestones? I see smaller players at a disadvantage. With the various arenas one had divided his champions clearly into the different arena. If you still want to earn all milestones you have to take champions that bring "less" points than before. So invest more work for a comparable number of units. If you can use all his 4* R1-3 at all without risking a deathmatch.
- what will happen in the future with the 2*? They will become even more pointless? Will there be special 2* arenas for certain events again?
- Do you have ideas to limit the cuts for stadiums at some point? Without 3 days vacation and enough units to refresh with booster you have no chance to get into the cuts. From 80,000,000 it is already very difficult. Can you not introduce a limit that you have to earn to get a certain champ? For example, 50,000,000 for a 5* as the "last milestone? If I make the effort to play arena for 3 days without a break, but I don't see a chance against payer and then go home with 1000 6* shards it doesn't feel good.
In the past you could play 3 arenas, using each star rating to hit all milestones, and you could run them parallel in between cooldowns
Now, 2 and 3*s are useless in arena to hit the big milestone's, they're just not going to give big enough scores to bother using them - that's an issue for me
I can imagine issue for lower level players is that firstly the milestones are now so much higher, if all they have is 2 and 3*s, and a minimum number of 4*s they're never going to be able to earn what they used to
And on top of that, with people who are actually trying to hit the highest milestones using teams of maxed out 4*s, there's no way anyone will be able to keep a win streak without hitting a death match
So another reason that 2 and 3*s are now useless to higher end players, and a huge barrier to lower level players trying to earn anywhere near what they could in the old 2 and 3* arenas
The whole thing is awful -Structure of having 1 big arena is terrible idea for reasons above
Milestones and rewards are worse and it's insulting our intelligence to try and tell us it's an improvement, lots of posts detailing this
And as for needing to be uncollected for 2 arenas, why take the chance of earning 3 and 4* champs away from players who aren't uncollected, these are players who need to expand their roster more to take on content like uncollected
Uncollected don't need to be singled out as needing 3 and 4* champs
its a shame that those who are not so called end gamers are punished because we don't spend 60 thousand dollars on this game a year we are punished and if you want everyone to be and elite gammer on this platform then put 1* at first mile stone 2* for the second and so on and make a basic 4* as the last milestone and then top prize a 4 star featured nexus crystals but no lets just kick the lower tear players with the ridiculous milestones . great kabam you finally alienated a big part of your fan base good job. Whatever
Good morning everybody. Lots of feedback to go over today. Thank you to everybody that gave constructive feedback.
We cleaned up a few posts overnight and this morning. When we're looking for actionable feedback we can share directly with the team, it's important that we can share direct feedback that tells us what you don't like, and why.
We don't have anything to share right now, but discussions are ongoing. We'll be looking at more feedback and data today. Top of mind is obviously milestones, but if there is anything else that is causing any concern, please make sure to share it with us!
Hello,
I have sent my opinion yesterday about new arena but i will develop what i thing this time (sorry if my purpose seems curious, I dont speak fluent english...).
Im a free to play player. Probably concidered as hard arena player, TB since 2 weeks, player since 3 years.
I did old arena for two things : 1. Units 2. New 3 stars champs, 4 stars 6 monthes after
I did 3 arenas each 3 days period : 1. 3/4 stars, at 1.5m 2. 4/5 stars, at 4m 3. 4/5/6 stars, at 12m
I earned 405u for 17.5m each 3 days.
With New arena, to win these units will need a lot more time than before.
All is not bad in these New arena - one arena for 1 to 4 stars. - New 4 star in milestones
But 34m to finish all is really impossible.
Perhaps a solution can be to maintain these arena for shards and champs, but exclude units from rewards, and doing a 3 Day solo objective with only units in rewards. (Why dont add 2 star champ as rewards in the 1/4 stars arena ?) Those who wants units will hunt this, those who hunt champs will do high scores in arena.
I have seen this idea in last pages, and i think its a good idea.
But in this form, like new arena are, its a very bad message sent to free to play players.
The biggest concerns are definitely things like milestones and the impact on people with a smaller number of 6-stars... but i will mention that i already miss the 3* arena. I'm thronebreaker but i found that the 3* arena was the most enjoyable way to grind, which is why i've maxed out 100+ 3* champs. I just don't see why we can't still have an arena for lower rarity champs.
Again, this isn't the most important issue, but i'm sure i'm not the only one who would like the 3* arena back.
Background - Previous baby beluga (masters alliance) here who got rid of my main account 4 months ago and decided to come back with my mini. This new update has me rethinking coming back. I will definitely not be spending. The main issue is the time commitment it takes for rewards that are not exciting. This reminds me of when the energy refill drop rate was significantly reduced years ago or revives removed from ROL. It makes the game not fun to have to grind incessantly for less rewards. My account now is hit pretty hard and it could benefit much more than my old account could. Seems like the rewards favor lower levels but it was designed for large accounts. Also, what is the point of 2* and 3* champs now?
As a free-to-play player who grinds arena primarily to get units, these changes are mostly bad. I like the upgrade of PHC to grandmaster crystals, and the increase in 6* shards in rank rewards. But the biggest problem is the milestones being too difficult to reach and impossible to get in both the basic and featured arenas. Before, I could run 6* champs in 5* feature arena, 5* champs in 4* feature arena, 4* champs in 4* basic arena, and 3* champs in the 3* feature arena. Now, 5* champs and 3* champs are worthless, as are the arena boosts (which are mostly for 3* champs). It doesn't make sense to run 5* champs for milestones. And because the milestones are so high, I can only focus on one arena and I'm putting in more work to get fewer milestones. For the vast majority of grinders, the whole point of the arena is to get units.
This rework makes it more difficult to get units (and nearly impossible to get the same units as before), leaving a massive player base without any option to progress. How can I get Fourth of July/cyber weekend deals if I can't grind for units. I'm not going to spend money on the game (aside from the $5 unit daily card), so if I can't keep up I'll stop playing. I'm sure many others feels the same.
The solution is simple: limit the basic arena to 4* and 5* champs and lower the milestones for that arena, and add a summoner trials arena capped with 3* champs. Many FTP players like me will never have the roster to grind out a top 100 finish for the 6* champs. Please, at the very least, let us continue to get units in arenas so we can continue to play the game and don't get even farther behind.
Arenas for the people still collected are a farce. Now, instead of having a good chance of landing at least a basic 4* hero that we know who it is, we now have these "rewards": lucky to be one of the top 500 players and get a 4* nexus. End up in the 1%-10% group and basically get a 4* crystal and two 3* crystals. whoopie. Since the top milestone is 2,150,000, I assume it takes at least 4 million to sniff the top spots. Nobody has that kind of time unless they are unemployed and living in Mama's basement.
And while people may say that 3 hero crystals isn't bad, it's not the same as a targeted arena, where you know the hero being offered. If it was one you wanted to get, great. If not, that's fine too. This was my main source for getting new heroes a few months after their initial release. I didn't mind that they were basic 4*. Now, it will be a never ending stream of champs, most of whom are pretty bad.
This arena change is bad. The majority if people including myself play arena for units and you guys just nerfed arena when it comes to that. Please change these one way or another to help this.
You didnt change anything in what champs you can use and how points are scored. You took 5 arenas with ~18.5m in total milestones and condensed them into 3 arenas with ~35m+ total milestones. Thats just not good, it basically needs double the effort and time invested.
@Kabam Miike as requested I’ll attempt some constructive feedback:
-Milestones are far too high, I’m a free to play thronebreaker with 30 6*s which is a reasonably good roster but there’s no way I can compete for milestones across both arenas, let alone rank rewards. If I use all of them twice a day that gets me approx 4-4.5 million points. If I add in my r4-5 5*s I could potentially make it but I (like most players) have a job and a life and don’t want to spend 2-3 hours a day grinding arena. I’d suggest reducing the max milestone to maybe 10 million which is still high enough to require some effort but not so high it alienates players with smaller rosters which these milestones do in my opinion.
-AI is much better, very happy with it.
- The basic 2-4* arena should have at least a 3* featured champion as a milestone reward for progressing players, very little benefit for your efforts in that arena as it stands
-Battlechips & units are lacking, should be increased as you get more milestones down especially as there are less arenas to farm them in
- I’d prefer even a smaller amount of cavalier shards to grandmaster shards which are basically useless. Literally even a third of the shards but cavalier instead of grandmaster would be better
Nothing new or original these have all been mentioned already but just wanted to add my voice to those that are unhappy with the new state of arena, it’s far too exclusive and only benefits the whales. Needs improving
@Kabam Miike you asked for constructive feedback. Here’s mine.
Rewards: the change to rewards in it self is really great. Getting GM shards and a 4* hero is a very big improvement.
Milestones: is an issue. This is totally opposite to QOL-changes. Double the grind is hard for most players. Most people want the units and now you get way less for the same grind.
Here’s my suggestions.
6* basic. Change the numbers of units on the lower milestones so that when u hit 4 million you have gotten 135. That way the same number for the same grind as previous 4* fearured. Then you can keep the rest of the milestones upwards as an incentive to make people play even more.
6* featured. Same as above but you have 135 Units when u hit 12 million milestone.
4* nexus. Same as above but you have 135 Units when u hit 1.5 million milestone.
This way the grind stays the same for the same amount of units. And if you don’t want summoners to get to many units just lower the amount on higher milestones and ad some other rewards like cav shards or so.
the changes on the arena structure is good, just not the milestones. increasing more milestones require us to stay more in arena then necessary. today I had to cook food and play arena on the side while waiting for the food to get caramelized, waiting time to turn a Entrecote so on and i even had to play arena while eating food. This for me is not normal and never is something i normally do when i cook food. I had to do this because i couldn't afford to miss too much and pass those milestones. If the game team still want to proceed with this new arena structure then i'm all ears for that, but at least cut the milestones mark and rework the math for the resources just like it was in the old arena structure milestones rewards.
just to add extra information that it now also takes more times because the game crashes on high end phones so that something to think about. Even help request that was already clicked Help Request getting all glitched/bugged and want to be clicked again when already done that. that small things just add more excessive time already put in arena itself. So might consider to cut the milestones mark and rework the math to have the same resources from the old arena structure and everyone will be happy again...well maybe not everyone, hey.
16.5M for one is too much and I am a milestone grinder. I will not be able to grind for 33M. Just can’t. As an FTP, guess my hopes for July 4th are in the trash
I'm Curious: Prior to these Changes, how many Milestones across all of the Arenas did you used to complete? If you don't remember that, do you remember how many Units approx you'd earn from Milestones per Arena run?
Our goal is to keep the effort roughly the same, but of course, with reducing the number of Arenas, that's going to be difficult. With the change of the rarities allowed in each Arena, the points are definitely going to be different, but we want to keep the effort roughly the same.
If that's not the case, we want to know! We won't know that on the first day or possibly even the first run, but please keep the feedback coming.
@Kabam Miike I agree with @Kavya30. I am a milestone grinder. Previously I did the 3*/4* arena and get all the milestones. I dedicated my 5* champions to the 4*/5* arena and get all the milestones. And finally dedicated all my 6* for the 4/5/6* arena and got most (not all) of the milestones since my 6* roster is limited. Now, the Summoner Trials grind is longer, the 6* featured arena grind is longer and there's no use for my 5* champions since I'm forced to use them in the featured arena (even if I did use them in the basic arena, the grind is longer). I'm forced to choose the arena I want to grind for and not get sufficient rewards for the time spent. Previously in 3 days I could complete all milestones from the 3/4* arenas and 4/5* arenas which resulted in more units. The cons: I spend way too much time grinding than in previous arenas and for the same amount of grind I get less units. I don't even feel like doing the 6* basic arena as I can use my combined 5* and 6* champions to get featured milestones done. The pros: Getting GM crystals. 4* featured as milestone rewards.
5* champs are irelavent in this new arena format. And it is obvious having a staked 6* roster for most players is not easy due to the limited resources. Most people have developed 5* roster for arena and therefore changing the meta is completely uncalled for .
Please give back priority for 5* champs . I am a cav player at the verge of getting throne breaker and I have completed act 7.1. From my experience 5* champs are still relevant in this contest and therefore taking away half the use for this rarity seems like a uninformed desicion. Thankyou for listening to our feedback.
What I like: Getting grandmaster shards for the milestones. This is a huge boon to me as a mostly F2P non-whale. It will allow me to potentially build my 5-star roster more quickly and get iso to level up champs..
More streamlined experience
What I don't like: As a mostly F2P user I get a significant amount of my units from the arena. I do not have a large collection of 6 star champs. I cannot grind all three of these arenas to get the units out anymore. By condensing the units into fewer arenas and having 2 of those arenas both use 6 star champs it makes it impossible to hit a lot of milestones for those that don't already have a large roster of 6 stars
This arena give less units for the same amount of time spent as the previous set up. gettin things like the GM Shards and 4 star champs as milestones shouldn't have been a trade for the units.
Suggestion: I think there should be an arena that just uses 4/5 start champs and an arena that allows the use of 6 star champs. The milestones for the 4/5 star arena could be retuned like the old 4 star featured arena, though maybe a little lower on the points requirement to make it faster.
I definitely agree that the milestones need a major tuneup. I used to grind arena hard for 3* and 4* Champs but with the 5* arena I just can't get the top milestones with work and family life. It's put me off those arenas. I started to grind the 4*basic arena but this new format means that it's much harder to get anywhere near the battle chips or units. It's just putting me off arena all together.
Honestly, the game needs some major revamping in general. I feel like for a casual player of moderate skill it's almost impossible to get Thronebreaker. I used spend on in-game offers when Caviler was the top offers. But now I know that Thronbreakers get so much more value for their purchases it's completely also put me off spending. I feel like Kabam is loosing someone who has played the game 1-2 hours a days for 5 years and loves the game but you just not catering to me anymore.
Arena Grinding now becomes too much. As FTP unit grind for me is impossible to hit milestone on both basic and feature. But as both 6* basic and Feature this has to be the design. I think reducing both 5* and 6* cool down time to half and increasing the 5* and 6* arena boost will be a good solution to this problem.
Not sure the arenas were improved. I mainly complete arenas for units. I’m a 10.5 prestige player but don’t have the roster to compete for the 5* in the old arena structure without losing sleep and having it impact my real life obligations. So arenas were my source of units. It’s seems now I’ll have to put in a lot more effort just to grind for units, which is a bummer. Why didn’t you just add a 6* basic and featured area instead of trying to merge them all into one? That would have made 5* champs in areas more accessible to people like me and the hardcore grinders would have focused on the 6* arenas. Feels like I now need to put in more effort for less rewards. Not pleased with the new updates.Thanks for soliciting feedback tho
Good morning everybody. Lots of feedback to go over today. Thank you to everybody that gave constructive feedback.
We cleaned up a few posts overnight and this morning. When we're looking for actionable feedback we can share directly with the team, it's important that we can share direct feedback that tells us what you don't like, and why.
We don't have anything to share right now, but discussions are ongoing. We'll be looking at more feedback and data today. Top of mind is obviously milestones, but if there is anything else that is causing any concern, please make sure to share it with us!
The #1 one things are:
This was tabbed as being QOL improvements for Arena, but talk about a swing and a MISS... You've actually doubled or tripled the workload and time needed to grind in Arena and made the 3* and 4* Champs milestones unattainable to the majority of Summoners because most players do not have enough 5&6 Champs at the right ranks (R5 or whatever) to avoid death matches and maintain a winning streak.
The craziest thing was increasing the 3* new feature champion milestone by just under TEN TIMES, from 640K to 6.25M (maybe it's a better QOL for the top whales who don't even need to improve their already stacked rosters that have 75+ R5 6* Champs but most Summoners are nowhere near that)
I personally haven't missed a new 3* or the occasional 4* basic when I didn't have them or needed a dupe in 2 years and as a Champ collector, the Arena is, or WAS, my favorite part of the game followed by EQ & AQ, and I know I'm not alone in that.
I'm Uncollected and have not touched SQ since beating the Collector and I'm content with that for now and maybe for good and I shouldn't have to be forced to progress to Act 6 or 7 if I don't want to... And if that's my choice, and others choices, we should NOT be punished.
NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CAV OR THONEBREAKER and even some who are don't have the ranked up roster to put in the time and scores to grind the Arena under this new format.
At the very least, everyone including below UC should have an opportunity to still get every new champ as a 3* from the Arena for the 640K, not 6.25M and lastly, battle chips and units are much harder to come by but tbh, that's not MY biggest concern because I'm no whale but I'm not f2p.... I do spend real money monthly so I hope I'm not just going to go unappreciated and left behind and/or essentially forced to cut way back or just quit MCoC.
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It’s impossible to reach milestones for those that actually have jobs and don’t spend all day in the game. This isn’t it Kabam.
16.5 mil is too high
This way, only players with the roster, skill, and time for it will compete for the prizes. And so p2w players who are literally throwing units at it can be removed, since the arena shouldn't be a question of how much you can spend, but rather how much you can play.
Also, the 5-star basic champion at least should be in a % rank reward. Not top 500, where that will easily be flooded with players that only know how to use units to refresh champions
First of all, I have to say that I very much welcome the changes and also find them mostly good, like having 3,4* champs in the milestones.
Nevertheless, after the first day I have a few things to note:
- will there be a way to upgrade the 3* (x1.5) arena crystals? With the new arena they are...useless.
With the bigger arena crystals 3* (x3.0) you still have an advantage over the 4* boosters (x1.5) but it just feels wrong. Will there be any change regarding this?
-If you don't have a wide 6* roster, how will you be able to farm the majority of the milestones? I see smaller players at a disadvantage. With the various arenas one had divided his champions clearly into the different arena. If you still want to earn all milestones you have to take champions that bring "less" points than before. So invest more work for a comparable number of units. If you can use all his 4* R1-3 at all without risking a deathmatch.
- what will happen in the future with the 2*? They will become even more pointless? Will there be special 2* arenas for certain events again?
- Do you have ideas to limit the cuts for stadiums at some point? Without 3 days vacation and enough units to refresh with booster you have no chance to get into the cuts. From 80,000,000 it is already very difficult. Can you not introduce a limit that you have to earn to get a certain champ? For example, 50,000,000 for a 5* as the "last milestone? If I make the effort to play arena for 3 days without a break, but I don't see a chance against payer and then go home with 1000 6* shards it doesn't feel good.
Thanks for reading. Love you guys. See you soon
Grouping 2, 3 and 4* into one arena
In the past you could play 3 arenas, using each star rating to hit all milestones, and you could run them parallel in between cooldowns
Now, 2 and 3*s are useless in arena to hit the big milestone's, they're just not going to give big enough scores to bother using them - that's an issue for me
I can imagine issue for lower level players is that firstly the milestones are now so much higher, if all they have is 2 and 3*s, and a minimum number of 4*s they're never going to be able to earn what they used to
And on top of that, with people who are actually trying to hit the highest milestones using teams of maxed out 4*s, there's no way anyone will be able to keep a win streak without hitting a death match
So another reason that 2 and 3*s are now useless to higher end players, and a huge barrier to lower level players trying to earn anywhere near what they could in the old 2 and 3* arenas
The whole thing is awful
-Structure of having 1 big arena is terrible idea for reasons above
Milestones and rewards are worse and it's insulting our intelligence to try and tell us it's an improvement, lots of posts detailing this
And as for needing to be uncollected for 2 arenas, why take the chance of earning 3 and 4* champs away from players who aren't uncollected, these are players who need to expand their roster more to take on content like uncollected
Uncollected don't need to be singled out as needing 3 and 4* champs
I have sent my opinion yesterday about new arena but i will develop what i thing this time (sorry if my purpose seems curious, I dont speak fluent english...).
Im a free to play player. Probably concidered as hard arena player, TB since 2 weeks, player since 3 years.
I did old arena for two things :
1. Units
2. New 3 stars champs, 4 stars 6 monthes after
I did 3 arenas each 3 days period :
1. 3/4 stars, at 1.5m
2. 4/5 stars, at 4m
3. 4/5/6 stars, at 12m
I earned 405u for 17.5m each 3 days.
With New arena, to win these units will need a lot more time than before.
All is not bad in these New arena
- one arena for 1 to 4 stars.
- New 4 star in milestones
But 34m to finish all is really impossible.
Perhaps a solution can be to maintain these arena for shards and champs, but exclude units from rewards, and doing a 3 Day solo objective with only units in rewards. (Why dont add 2 star champ as rewards in the 1/4 stars arena ?) Those who wants units will hunt this, those who hunt champs will do high scores in arena.
I have seen this idea in last pages, and i think its a good idea.
But in this form, like new arena are, its a very bad message sent to free to play players.
Again, this isn't the most important issue, but i'm sure i'm not the only one who would like the 3* arena back.
This new update has me rethinking coming back. I will definitely not be spending. The main issue is the time commitment it takes for rewards that are not exciting. This reminds me of when the energy refill drop rate was significantly reduced years ago or revives removed from ROL.
It makes the game not fun to have to grind incessantly for less rewards. My account now is hit pretty hard and it could benefit much more than my old account could. Seems like the rewards favor lower levels but it was designed for large accounts.
Also, what is the point of 2* and 3* champs now?
This rework makes it more difficult to get units (and nearly impossible to get the same units as before), leaving a massive player base without any option to progress. How can I get Fourth of July/cyber weekend deals if I can't grind for units. I'm not going to spend money on the game (aside from the $5 unit daily card), so if I can't keep up I'll stop playing. I'm sure many others feels the same.
The solution is simple: limit the basic arena to 4* and 5* champs and lower the milestones for that arena, and add a summoner trials arena capped with 3* champs. Many FTP players like me will never have the roster to grind out a top 100 finish for the 6* champs. Please, at the very least, let us continue to get units in arenas so we can continue to play the game and don't get even farther behind.
And while people may say that 3 hero crystals isn't bad, it's not the same as a targeted arena, where you know the hero being offered. If it was one you wanted to get, great. If not, that's fine too. This was my main source for getting new heroes a few months after their initial release. I didn't mind that they were basic 4*. Now, it will be a never ending stream of champs, most of whom are pretty bad.
You took 5 arenas with ~18.5m in total milestones and condensed them into 3 arenas with ~35m+ total milestones. Thats just not good, it basically needs double the effort and time invested.
-Milestones are far too high, I’m a free to play thronebreaker with 30 6*s which is a reasonably good roster but there’s no way I can compete for milestones across both arenas, let alone rank rewards. If I use all of them twice a day that gets me approx 4-4.5 million points. If I add in my r4-5 5*s I could potentially make it but I (like most players) have a job and a life and don’t want to spend 2-3 hours a day grinding arena. I’d suggest reducing the max milestone to maybe 10 million which is still high enough to require some effort but not so high it alienates players with smaller rosters which these milestones do in my opinion.
-AI is much better, very happy with it.
- The basic 2-4* arena should have at least a 3* featured champion as a milestone reward for progressing players, very little benefit for your efforts in that arena as it stands
-Battlechips & units are lacking, should be increased as you get more milestones down especially as there are less arenas to farm them in
- I’d prefer even a smaller amount of cavalier shards to grandmaster shards which are basically useless. Literally even a third of the shards but cavalier instead of grandmaster would be better
Nothing new or original these have all been mentioned already but just wanted to add my voice to those that are unhappy with the new state of arena, it’s far too exclusive and only benefits the whales. Needs improving
Rewards: the change to rewards in it self is really great. Getting GM shards and a 4* hero is a very big improvement.
Milestones: is an issue. This is totally opposite to QOL-changes. Double the grind is hard for most players. Most people want the units and now you get way less for the same grind.
Here’s my suggestions.
6* basic. Change the numbers of units on the lower milestones so that when u hit 4 million you have gotten 135. That way the same number for the same grind as previous 4* fearured. Then you can keep the rest of the milestones upwards as an incentive to make people play even more.
6* featured. Same as above but you have 135
Units when u hit 12 million milestone.
4* nexus. Same as above but you have 135
Units when u hit 1.5 million milestone.
This way the grind stays the same for the same amount of units. And if you don’t want summoners to get to many units just lower the amount on higher milestones and ad some other rewards like cav shards or so.
just to add extra information that it now also takes more times because the game crashes on high end phones so that something to think about. Even help request that was already clicked Help Request getting all glitched/bugged and want to be clicked again when already done that. that small things just add more excessive time already put in arena itself. So might consider to cut the milestones mark and rework the math to have the same resources from the old arena structure and everyone will be happy again...well maybe not everyone, hey.
I agree with @Kavya30. I am a milestone grinder. Previously I did the 3*/4* arena and get all the milestones. I dedicated my 5* champions to the 4*/5* arena and get all the milestones. And finally dedicated all my 6* for the 4/5/6* arena and got most (not all) of the milestones since my 6* roster is limited. Now, the Summoner Trials grind is longer, the 6* featured arena grind is longer and there's no use for my 5* champions since I'm forced to use them in the featured arena (even if I did use them in the basic arena, the grind is longer). I'm forced to choose the arena I want to grind for and not get sufficient rewards for the time spent.
Previously in 3 days I could complete all milestones from the 3/4* arenas and 4/5* arenas which resulted in more units.
The cons: I spend way too much time grinding than in previous arenas and for the same amount of grind I get less units. I don't even feel like doing the 6* basic arena as I can use my combined 5* and 6* champions to get featured milestones done.
The pros: Getting GM crystals. 4* featured as milestone rewards.
Please give back priority for 5* champs . I am a cav player at the verge of getting throne breaker and I have completed act 7.1. From my experience 5* champs are still relevant in this contest and therefore taking away half the use for this rarity seems like a uninformed desicion.
Thankyou for listening to our feedback.
Getting grandmaster shards for the milestones. This is a huge boon to me as a mostly F2P non-whale. It will allow me to potentially build my 5-star roster more quickly and get iso to level up champs..
More streamlined experience
What I don't like:
As a mostly F2P user I get a significant amount of my units from the arena. I do not have a large collection of 6 star champs. I cannot grind all three of these arenas to get the units out anymore. By condensing the units into fewer arenas and having 2 of those arenas both use 6 star champs it makes it impossible to hit a lot of milestones for those that don't already have a large roster of 6 stars
This arena give less units for the same amount of time spent as the previous set up. gettin things like the GM Shards and 4 star champs as milestones shouldn't have been a trade for the units.
Suggestion: I think there should be an arena that just uses 4/5 start champs and an arena that allows the use of 6 star champs. The milestones for the 4/5 star arena could be retuned like the old 4 star featured arena, though maybe a little lower on the points requirement to make it faster.
Honestly, the game needs some major revamping in general. I feel like for a casual player of moderate skill it's almost impossible to get Thronebreaker. I used spend on in-game offers when Caviler was the top offers. But now I know that Thronbreakers get so much more value for their purchases it's completely also put me off spending. I feel like Kabam is loosing someone who has played the game 1-2 hours a days for 5 years and loves the game but you just not catering to me anymore.
This was tabbed as being QOL improvements for Arena, but talk about a swing and a MISS... You've actually doubled or tripled the workload and time needed to grind in Arena and made the 3* and 4* Champs milestones unattainable to the majority of Summoners because most players do not have enough 5&6 Champs at the right ranks (R5 or whatever) to avoid death matches and maintain a winning streak.
The craziest thing was increasing the 3* new feature champion milestone by just under TEN TIMES, from 640K to 6.25M (maybe it's a better QOL for the top whales who don't even need to improve their already stacked rosters that have 75+ R5 6* Champs but most Summoners are nowhere near that)
I personally haven't missed a new 3* or the occasional 4* basic when I didn't have them or needed a dupe in 2 years and as a Champ collector, the Arena is, or WAS, my favorite part of the game followed by EQ & AQ, and I know I'm not alone in that.
I'm Uncollected and have not touched SQ since beating the Collector and I'm content with that for now and maybe for good and I shouldn't have to be forced to progress to Act 6 or 7 if I don't want to... And if that's my choice, and others choices, we should NOT be punished.
NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CAV OR THONEBREAKER and even some who are don't have the ranked up roster to put in the time and scores to grind the Arena under this new format.
At the very least, everyone including below UC should have an opportunity to still get every new champ as a 3* from the Arena for the 640K, not 6.25M and lastly, battle chips and units are much harder to come by but tbh, that's not MY biggest concern because I'm no whale but I'm not f2p.... I do spend real money monthly so I hope I'm not just going to go unappreciated and left behind and/or essentially forced to cut way back or just quit MCoC.
4 stars against 6 ain’t even close