Is Sorcerer Supreme as a 6 star?

Mysterio · June 2021

Just pulled a SS as a 6 star, does she need awakening? Is she already good? On a scale of 1/10 how should I feel?

MrInsanity · June 2021

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.

Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?

MrInsanity · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?

When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.

U can't say is 3%,block dmg is depended of the enemies attack. There is nodes that armor break is needed or Champs that need armor break, let's say killmonger or storm map5 mini..

Nullify uptime can be 100%,u can spam s1. But didn't mention that because indeed some other mystics do it better. And also regen on block can have 100% up time if u know what u are doing,

She is not the best mystic but she is definitely not overrated

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Sarvanga1_ · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.

All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.

No_oneuk · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.

3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

IronGladiator22 · June 2021

She’s amazing. 3rd best mystic in my opinion.
I would give her an 9/10

MrInsanity · June 2021

No_oneuk said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

Sarvanga1_ said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.

Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.

yuw · June 2021

she's probably the best option for cavelier event quest, i always solo the whole path with her at full healthy(other than the boss)

BuggyDClown · June 2021

Mysterio said:
Just pulled a SS as a 6 star, does she need awakening? Is she already good? On a scale of 1/10 how should I feel?

Solid champion. She have many used. R3 worthy

BuggyDClown · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.

Then really don't know how to use her . In 7.2 she can take block all day and still finish t 100% hp. All one need to understand how her runes affect the flow of game

MrInsanity · June 2021

BuggyDClown said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp

Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.

Jumptheshark · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

No_oneuk said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

Sarvanga1_ said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.
Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.

This just shows you don’t use her correctly. She should have multiple armor breaks and 2-3 regen going in a fight. She then hits very hard and regens a ton.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

BuggyDClown said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp
Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.

You don't.
And is not the disagree reactions that make it obvious but the 0 agree

MrInsanity · June 2021

Jumptheshark said:

MrInsanity said:

No_oneuk said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

Sarvanga1_ said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.
Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.
This just shows you don’t use her correctly. She should have multiple armor breaks and 2-3 regen going in a fight. She then hits very hard and regens a ton.

There is no way she hits very hard... she can hit decently if you get all the armor breaks. And it's still not a ton of regen unless you're sat there taking blocked hits which takes enough time to ruin the "very hard" damage.

MrInsanity · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

BuggyDClown said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp
Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.
You don't.

That's an opinion.

Jumptheshark · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

BuggyDClown said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp
Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.
You don't.
That's an opinion.
Sun is smaller than earth. Hey, it's an opinion

It certainly looks that way from where I’m standing.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

BuggyDClown said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp
Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.
You don't.
That's an opinion.
Sun is smaller than earth. Hey, it's an opinion
Please don't derail the thread.

I don't, I am giving u an example why your assumption of an opinion is wrong when facts proves otherwise.

TheBair123 · June 2021

Don’t listen to the haters. She’s a great champ, ton of utility, and she doesn’t sacrifice any damage with that utility. Doesn’t need awakening, but now that I got her awakened I use her against Domino

MrInsanity · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

BuggyDClown said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp
Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.
You don't.
That's an opinion.
Sun is smaller than earth. Hey, it's an opinion
Please don't derail the thread.
I don't, I am giving u an example why your assumption of an opinion is wrong when facts proves otherwise.

How this related to Sorceror Supreme then

Valentinos13 · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:

BuggyDClown said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp
Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.
You don't.
That's an opinion.
Sun is smaller than earth. Hey, it's an opinion
Please don't derail the thread.
I don't, I am giving u an example why your assumption of an opinion is wrong when facts proves otherwise.
How this related to Sorceror Supreme then

Because the answers from fellow summoners that giving example of ingame facts was not enough I wanted to give a real life example

Even it seems smaller from where u stand doesn't make the sun smaller than earth, neither that opinion right

Even if u have an opinion about sorcerer from where u stand, doesn't make the opinion right neither.. By definition is good to share opinion but be able to see beyond that and understand and accept when facts prove you wrong

Ksp_2099 · June 2021

Doom>BWCV>SS

Kill_Grey · June 2021

10/10 champ and absolutely top shelf. Has the best utility combo in the game imo. Regen on block makes high attack values a joke, as far as no healing mitigation, she is absolutely the most tanky champ in that regard (if you know what you're doing) excluding stuff like horseman gambit or true perfect block mechanics. Stackable Armor breaks as well, makes killmonger, Emma, etc a joke. Slow debuff is well... Slow; probably still the best debuff in the game on its own. Consistent nullify, special spamming, etc, etc. She's just an amazingly well-rounded character.

My favourite champ of 2020, and I've played quite extensively with pretty much all of them.

Thicco_Mode · June 2021

MrInsanity said:

No_oneuk said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

Sarvanga1_ said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.
Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.

you must be in act 4 if youre taking 3% blocked damage a fight. You've also clearly never played her if you think her damage is "painful"

Polygon · June 2021

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.

Dont comment on stuff you know nothing about. Shes the 2nd best mystic without suicides , used her on mix master in 7.2.6 . She handled evade/buffs/and hard to evade specials all at the same time. Messed up in a fight but still recovered from 60% to full health off her regen

MrInsanity · June 2021

Thicco_Mode said:

MrInsanity said:

No_oneuk said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

Sarvanga1_ said:

MrInsanity said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.
Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.
you must be in act 4 if youre taking 3% blocked damage a fight. You've also clearly never played her if you think her damage is "painful"

GagoH said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Dont comment on stuff you know nothing about. Shes the 2nd best mystic without suicides , used her on mix master in 7.2.6 . She handled evade/buffs/and hard to evade specials all at the same time. Messed up in a fight but still recovered from 60% to full health off her regen

ok

YoMoves · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?

Technically Doom+Mr. F and Doom+Guardian, along with far better power control and damage.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

YoMoves said:

Valentinos13 said:

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
Technically Doom+Mr. F and Doom+Guardian, along with far better power control and damage.

That's correct 👍

BitterSteel · June 2021

MrInsanity said:
She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.

Oof this is all kinds of wrong

Is Sorcerer Supreme as a 6 star?

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