Is Sorcerer Supreme as a 6 star?

Just pulled a SS as a 6 star, does she need awakening? Is she already good? On a scale of 1/10 how should I feel?

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She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.

3%?

5*r3 SorSup

Agent_X_zzz

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.

armor break the same as nullify? such nonsense

MrInsanity

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3%?

5*r3 SorSup

BuggyDClown

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Then really don't know how to use her . In 7 2 she can take blocks a day and still finish 100% hp
Really do know how to use her actually. Never needed to because in 7.2 you can use anyone. If you really have to/need to sit there and take who knows how many blocked hits to heal her back to 100% then she is a good champion for you.

Yes i know how to use her. Infact in Aw attack i use her more than Doom. Her utilities comes handy in many situation. And with that regen going on I don't have to worry block damage.
Is taking block damage bad ?
Saving pots bad?
Champ with ton of utilities is bad ?
Or she need skills and knowledge to play and one can't pull that off makes her bad???

No one said that we had to sit and take block damages. It's her kit which helps in many tricky situations.
And yeah she's good champion for me.

BuggyDClown

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.
Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.
This just shows you don’t use her correctly. She should have multiple armor breaks and 2-3 regen going in a fight. She then hits very hard and regens a ton.

There is no way she hits very hard... she can hit decently if you get all the armor breaks. And it's still not a ton of regen unless you're sat there taking blocked hits which takes enough time to ruin the "very hard" damage.

She can't hit hard 😂😂😂😂 I mean no offence but you really don't know how to deal damage with her. As stand alone Champ she can easily crit 20k -36k . And in longer fights she shines more.
But it's not her damage people pick her for.its her utilities she provides. And in current meta people tend to choose utilities more. May not be
Champ for you.

BuggyDClown

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
Technically Doom+Mr. F and Doom+Guardian, along with far better power control and damage.

Doom alone is best mystic champ. This synergy's provide more to him. But if we take standalone utilities Sorcerer do very awesome job as she don't need one. Saves the slot

The_beast123

I had a good time reading through the various comments

People often talk about her damage mitigation from her regen. Her damage is great in the Cyttorak's ferocity, and armor breaks make it more sweet. Raggadorr's resolve is known for the well-known regen and etc. Ikonn's ingenuity is really great for power control. The Nullification Aura and Slow debuff make for the cherry on the cake.

Let it be as MrInsanity says, that her damage is low. I would not mind having to hit even a 100 hits more in ACT 6 and above, if I could stay as healthy as I started the quest.

TheHeroDeserved

She’s amazing. 3rd best mystic in my opinion.
I would give her an 9/10

Only thing I disagree on here, is the 9/10. Shes 10/10 IMO and r3 no brainer. Only Doom (and maybe Claire, who I don't have) outshines her.
Her damage is massive if timed correctly, her slow is reliable, her regen is uniqe and her nullify is one of the most reliable in the game. She's such an underrated champ - people telling you otherwise don't know her rotation.

Reverend_Ruckus

Used her for Gauntlet. She helped tremendously

ChaosMax1012

I dont like sorc supreme, im more of an intercepter but she is decent. Not in my top 3 mystic but i dont want to get into that. Mainly biased since she’s a knockoff dollar store doctor strange with all of his powers

Rasilover

Imagine downplaying sorcerer

Unitman

Just pulled a SS as a 6 star, does she need awakening? Is she already good? On a scale of 1/10 how should I feel?

Awesome champ. Highly sustainable and does a lot.

Probably want a point or two in mystic dispersion for a little power gain

Hrishikesh713

Dude dont listen to any haters....she's solid mystic champ who has got tons of utility....people who hate either dont know how to use her correctly or simply *cough* *cough* Aren't smart enough to know her potential....!!!

Kerneas

She is 10/10 imo. Doesn't need awakening, has solid regen, great nullify and good utility.

TrashyPanda

Amazing 6* -- if you don't run suicides. If you do run suicides, well, Claire is about it if you actually wanna nullify buffs.

Mysterio

Amazing 6* -- if you don't run suicides. If you do run suicides, well, Claire is about it if you actually wanna nullify buffs.

I don't do suicides, I like being alive.

MrInsanity

Guys how am I being a troll, from my experience she is overrated. People are calling her top 3 mystic but she just isn't doing it for me. Her damage is good but takes a little to ramp up especially with her low powrr gain to stack the armor breaks and still can be subpar if you don't crit. The regen is apparently good but I still don't think it's one of the top regenerations compared to other champions. She also has power control. That's why I don't think she's a top 3 mystic, she's like 6th. I tried her, I didn't like her, then I was done. I got Doom BWCV and She-Hulk so I won't try her again anyways, done

Dude dont listen to any haters....she's decent mystic champ who has got a lot of utility....people who like her simply *cough* *cough* Aren't smart enough to know other potential rank ups....!!!

Imagine upplaying sorcerer

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
You are a troll for disagreeing with me

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Not nonsense man, armor break counts as a nullify. Both get rid of armor and obviously some cases armor break is more useful but it is likely you have other champions who can do it

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Not very nice bro

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.
Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.
Yeah mate damage is not painful I was exaggerating. Block damage is honestly lower for me I always intercept or use Cap IW, it is better than blocking

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
How about YOU dont comment on stuff you know nothing about. I think she is the sixth best mystic. You dont, so how is that a lack of my knowledge when I have tried her multiple times and seen her gameplay on youtube

Colinwhitworth69

Throw an sp3 with 8-10 stored runes and then tell me whether she hits hard. Spoiler: she does.

Amazing champ. My next mystic r3.

Colinwhitworth69

Also the mystic chapter in this month’s EQ was practically designed for her.

Will3808

As you can see, people are very divided on her. In my opinion she’s good, especially if you don’t have any other strong mystics, but doesn’t excel at one particular thing. I see her as similar to imiw but a little better. I’m kind of in the middle of the two camps. I definitely don’t feel like she’s the second best mystic when you don’t run suicides (I don’t and I have a r5 Claire who I use way more and is way better) but I also don’t feel like she’s trash and not worth using. I’d rank her behind doom, Claire, sym supreme, tigra, longshot, and voodoo which still puts her in a very respectable place in the mystic class.

Worknprogress

I see there are plenty of people that somehow still don't have a clue what they're talking about when it comes to Sorcerer.

Edeuink

As you can see, people are very divided on her. In my opinion she’s good, especially if you don’t have any other strong mystics, but doesn’t excel at one particular thing. I see her as similar to imiw but a little better. I’m kind of in the middle of the two camps. I definitely don’t feel like she’s the second best mystic when you don’t run suicides (I don’t and I have a r5 Claire who I use way more and is way better) but I also don’t feel like she’s trash and not worth using. I’d rank her behind doom, Claire, sym supreme, tigra, longshot, and voodoo which still puts her in a very respectable place in the mystic class.

I guess you could say “people” if you count mrinsanity as what, like 15 people?

Jumptheshark

Guys how am I being a troll, from my experience she is overrated. People are calling her top 3 mystic but she just isn't doing it for me. Her damage is good but takes a little to ramp up especially with her low powrr gain to stack the armor breaks and still can be subpar if you don't crit. The regen is apparently good but I still don't think it's one of the top regenerations compared to other champions. She also has power control. That's why I don't think she's a top 3 mystic, she's like 6th. I tried her, I didn't like her, then I was done. I got Doom BWCV and She-Hulk so I won't try her again anyways, done
Dude dont listen to any haters....she's decent mystic champ who has got a lot of utility....people who like her simply *cough* *cough* Aren't smart enough to know other potential rank ups....!!!

Imagine upplaying sorcerer

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
You are a troll for disagreeing with me

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
Not nonsense man, armor break counts as a nullify. Both get rid of armor and obviously some cases armor break is more useful but it is likely you have other champions who can do it

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Not very nice bro

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
3% health? she can take any hit that doesn't kill her into the block and heal it all back - how is that not great?

and even outside of blocked hits, with the regen up she passively regens pretty damn efficiently - if you go into a regular act 6/7 fight and dont take anything other than chip damage you can usually see yourself 15-20% healthier by the end of the fight...

i think folks are seriously misunderstanding her regen mechanic.

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
Her armor breaks help
Her regen on block helps

What mystic is better than her and do the above?
When do you need armor break? Nullify is practically the same as that
Regen on block is not permanent and at most just gets rid of all block damage, which sounds good but is ultimately about 3% health from my experience.
All this is wrong. You can regen more than you get damage on block.
Save 3% because for me most of the time blocked damage is about 3%... yeah she can slowly heal what she has if she has the recovery mastery. But even then it stunts her already painful damage since it switches you out of her fury mode unless you build to an sp3 first, and by then the heal isn't that worth it. BWCV Magik DM Dormammu Mephisto all have a better heal. Even Doctor Strange you could argue.
Yeah mate damage is not painful I was exaggerating. Block damage is honestly lower for me I always intercept or use Cap IW, it is better than blocking

She is overrated. If you need a slow champion or a decent mystic she is good but otherwise other mystics can do what she does better. No awakening needed.
How about YOU dont comment on stuff you know nothing about. I think she is the sixth best mystic. You dont, so how is that a lack of my knowledge when I have tried her multiple times and seen her gameplay on youtube

From your experience is the key point here. You’re not using her correctly. That’s ok. In my experience quake is overrated, but that’s only because I don’t quake well and have never bothered to learn. I get by without her just fine, but others crush content with her. Just use who you like.

MrInsanity

Just note that disagreeing with this doesn't make you a troll, but it doesn't make you right. And it doesn't make your opinion right. You might not like her, but saying she is overrated and /or bad, is plain wrong. Same as if I said Quake is bad because i didn't like her. Or if I said Doom's power control is worse than claire's. Ok, your opinion, but wrong.

Not gonna bother with the other stuff since I don't have anything else to say... just have to agree to disagree.
But she is overrated and opinions can't be wrong or right... like there is no way Magik is worse than SS in my opinion, you can't say that is wrong...

Cop123

Just note that disagreeing with this doesn't make you a troll, but it doesn't make you right. And it doesn't make your opinion right. You might not like her, but saying she is overrated and /or bad, is plain wrong. Same as if I said Quake is bad because i didn't like her. Or if I said Doom's power control is worse than claire's. Ok, your opinion, but wrong.
Not gonna bother with the other stuff since I don't have anything else to say... just have to agree to disagree.
But she is overrated and opinions can't be wrong or right... like there is no way Magik is worse than SS in my opinion, you can't say that is wrong...

my opinion is that earth is flat you can't say that is wrong

MrInsanity

Just note that disagreeing with this doesn't make you a troll, but it doesn't make you right. And it doesn't make your opinion right. You might not like her, but saying she is overrated and /or bad, is plain wrong. Same as if I said Quake is bad because i didn't like her. Or if I said Doom's power control is worse than claire's. Ok, your opinion, but wrong.
opinions can't be wrong or right...
My opinion is that iron fist is a better champion than dr doom

Alright you can like his animations more so therefore he can be better to you since it is subjective

Just note that disagreeing with this doesn't make you a troll, but it doesn't make you right. And it doesn't make your opinion right. You might not like her, but saying she is overrated and /or bad, is plain wrong. Same as if I said Quake is bad because i didn't like her. Or if I said Doom's power control is worse than claire's. Ok, your opinion, but wrong.
Not gonna bother with the other stuff since I don't have anything else to say... just have to agree to disagree.
But she is overrated and opinions can't be wrong or right... like there is no way Magik is worse than SS in my opinion, you can't say that is wrong...
my opinion is that earth is flat you can't say that is wrong

Alright that is different since it's based on invalid facts
I'm done now. Good discussion guys very constructive, Hopefully this helped someone

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Jumptheshark

Just note that disagreeing with this doesn't make you a troll, but it doesn't make you right. And it doesn't make your opinion right. You might not like her, but saying she is overrated and /or bad, is plain wrong. Same as if I said Quake is bad because i didn't like her. Or if I said Doom's power control is worse than claire's. Ok, your opinion, but wrong.
opinions can't be wrong or right...
My opinion is that iron fist is a better champion than dr doom
Alright you can like his animations more so therefore he can be better to you since it is subjective
Just note that disagreeing with this doesn't make you a troll, but it doesn't make you right. And it doesn't make your opinion right. You might not like her, but saying she is overrated and /or bad, is plain wrong. Same as if I said Quake is bad because i didn't like her. Or if I said Doom's power control is worse than claire's. Ok, your opinion, but wrong.
Not gonna bother with the other stuff since I don't have anything else to say... just have to agree to disagree.
But she is overrated and opinions can't be wrong or right... like there is no way Magik is worse than SS in my opinion, you can't say that is wrong...
my opinion is that earth is flat you can't say that is wrong
Alright that is different since it's based on invalid facts
I'm done now. Good discussion guys very constructive, Hopefully this helped someone

My opinion is that mystic is the best class to use against human torch.

TyEdge

Anyone have a good tutorial for her for someone who just got her? I’m gonna use a t5cc on her or Longshot after July 4 if I don’t get anyone better.

The_beast123

She also has power control. That's why I don't think she's a top 3 mystic.

Enough said. What other reason do you guys want?
/s

[But seriously, I never that this thread would stay alive for this long]