Summoner’s Sigil

mostlyharmlessn · June 2021

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it

The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions

Unio77 · June 2021

Rip ppl who payed for sigil and this got into the store right after

Valentinos13 · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions

U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it

mostlyharmlessn · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it

Then make it different subscriptions.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.

Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?

mostlyharmlessn · June 2021

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.

Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

mostlyharmlessn · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?

Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.

So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?

mostlyharmlessn · June 2021

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?

Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.

mostlyharmlessn · June 2021

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?
Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.
So all you really want is for them to change a description

I want them to keep to what they sold us. The unlocking of all the benefits of what we are subscribing to.

Valentinos13 · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?
Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.

So all this talk from u is for the name of the sigil. Nothing else, technicalities,

And BTW u get what u pay for when u buy it as a UC player same goes for TB.. UC pay for the benefit of sigil plus a 6star sw in 6 months and tb pay for the sigil benefits plus sw in 4 months.. Because they don't have different names it doesn't change that

Worknprogress · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?
Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.
So all you really want is for them to change a description
I want them to keep to what they sold us. The unlocking of all the benefits of what we are subscribing to.

From day 1 the solo event had different items in it based on progression levels. This is exactly the same as it's always been.

LuciusBryant · June 2021

Just saying they should’ve given me the 4*. Regardless of wether I renewed before reset or not. It’s kinda unfair.

mostlyharmlessn · June 2021

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?
Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.
So all this talk from u is for the name of the sigil. Nothing else, technicalities,

And BTW u get what u pay for when u buy it as a UC player same goes for TB.. UC pay for the benefit of sigil plus a 6star sw in 6 months and tb pay for the sigil benefits plus sw in 4 months.. Because they don't have different names it doesn't change that

The point is they are selling 1 thing, Sigil which is subscription to unlock everything that Sigil has to offer.

If Sigil offers more, then you get more.

If they are selling something to another player based on their progression, then that should be something different.

So no people that are not UC or CAV are not getting what they paid for with the current model if there are things which are part of the sigil subscription they do not also get.

Worknprogress · June 2021

LuciusBryant said:
Just saying they should’ve given me the 4*. Regardless of wether I renewed before reset or not. It’s kinda unfair.

It said specifically in the in-game mail you got for the announcement that wouldn't be the case if you renewed before 10AM PST today

Valentinos13 · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?
Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.
So all this talk from u is for the name of the sigil. Nothing else, technicalities,

And BTW u get what u pay for when u buy it as a UC player same goes for TB.. UC pay for the benefit of sigil plus a 6star sw in 6 months and tb pay for the sigil benefits plus sw in 4 months.. Because they don't have different names it doesn't change that
The point is they are selling 1 thing, Sigil which is subscription to unlock everything that Sigil has to offer.

If Sigil offers more, then you get more.

If they are selling something to another player based on their progression, then that should be something different.

So no people that are not UC or CAV are not getting what they paid for with the current model if there are things which are part of the sigil subscription they do not also get.

Worknprogress said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?
Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.
So all you really want is for them to change a description
I want them to keep to what they sold us. The unlocking of all the benefits of what we are subscribing to.
From day 1 the solo event had different items in it based on progression levels. This is exactly the same as it's always been.

Workinprogress gave u the answer, I am sorry but unfortunately u don't make sense anymore, it just look like u are hurt you are getting sw couple months later than others

LuciusBryant · June 2021

Truly don’t really care. 4 stars don’t mean anything to me anymore other that getting shards and ISO’s. This discussion went way into a stratosphere I wasn’t expecting. So I get her when I get her.

Jwallace25 · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
It technically is different subscriptions. Thronebreaker for thronebreakers
Cavalier for cavlier etc.
Except it's not, when we were sold Sigil, it was to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.
It is though

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Valentinos13 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Raichu626 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

ItsDamien said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Furious_Fighter1 said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Zan0 said:

Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
You are not missing anything. He just doesn't get it
The big difference here is it is 1 subscription to unlock all the benefits of Sigil.

Make different subscriptions if they are going to be offering different levels of subscriptions
U are not taking account the balance of the game.. Uncollected players don't need a new 6star, 5star will help them, TB don't care much about 5stars but they wouldn't mind a new 6star..
If they were giving TB sigil rewards, and resources from offers for that matter, it would destroy the balance and natural progression of the game.. And u can't keep giving uncollected offers or rewards to TB, because they won't buy it
Then make it different subscriptions.
Cannot make different subscriptions. Because different progression levels have different value per each resource.. UC can get a 5star for 5 usd and be happy but TB wouldn't. If they make 6star for 20 usd so TB be happy, why pay more just to be happy, punished for progressing or because they are playing more?
Sure they can, they make a TB Sigil subscription.... they can even charge the same if they want, the fact is when you buy sigil, you are making a purchase to unlock all of benefits of Sigil.
So if they make 2 sigil, one named tb sigil an other UC sigil
Both cost 10 usd but one it give 4 of the new currency and other 9,you will be OK?
Yes because the promise is you unlock all of the benefits of what you subscribed to.
So all this talk from u is for the name of the sigil. Nothing else, technicalities,

And BTW u get what u pay for when u buy it as a UC player same goes for TB.. UC pay for the benefit of sigil plus a 6star sw in 6 months and tb pay for the sigil benefits plus sw in 4 months.. Because they don't have different names it doesn't change that
The point is they are selling 1 thing, Sigil which is subscription to unlock everything that Sigil has to offer.

If Sigil offers more, then you get more.

If they are selling something to another player based on their progression, then that should be something different.

So no people that are not UC or CAV are not getting what they paid for with the current model if there are things which are part of the sigil subscription they do not also get.

I get what you are saying, but I think the main difference is that the sigil primarily gives you access to the black market. Once you have access to the black market, you are then given access to items based on your level of progression. A newbie player can still gain access to all items by unlocking progression levels like everyone else. There is no pay wall to stop a newbie from becoming UC, Cavalier, or TB; it is available for everyone. Simply put in the time and effort like everybody else. The sigil was not meant to be a bypass for player progression.

Prathap · June 2021

I have a different question... Anybody know what it takes to get that 6* SW sigil... Just activating Sigil and acquire all sigil credits over a month?

MrInsanity · June 2021

mostlyharmlessn said:

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Jsully216 said:
How many credits you get?
4 for uncollected
6 for cavalier
9 for thronebreaker
Well this is BS... if people are paying the same amount of money for a service, they should get the same level of treatment...
I hope to see you on 4th of July too when TB gets 6* Nexuses in deals and UC gets 5* shards for same amount.
Those are not a subscriptions to a level of service.
It's an optional service that isn't necessary for any part of the game at all.
Sigil though is a subscription to a level of service... if someone pays for it, it should unlock everything in that level of service regardless of progression.

Package deals are not a subscription.

So if the Odin's offer on July 4th gave 10k 6* shards, a t6b, a t3a and a t5cc selector (for example), it's fine if that's only offered to TB, and lower levels got less for the same amount of money.

But if those exact same rewards were offered as a 10 day subscription, each day giving 1/10th of the rewards, then it would be a problem if that wasn't offered to all players at the same price?

What am I missing that makes this not completely nonsensical?
But yes I do agree they should be giving the same if you are paying the same amount.

TB players pay with more time into the game compared to beginners

Prathap said:
I have a different question... Anybody know what it takes to get that 6* SW sigil... Just activating Sigil and acquire all sigil credits over a month?

I believe it takes 4-6 months of getting credits for the 6* sigil

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