Apparently Red Mags was just a dumb buff

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  • DontsellthemDontsellthem Member Posts: 786 ★★★

    The op is not making sense close thread


    No not yet!
    Xva23 said:

    Magneto can only manipulate ferromagnetic materials like iron and such. Plenty of weapons like batons are made of alloys and polymers to decrease weight and increase maneuverability. I.e, he can't control any metal object


    Is this why superior iron man isn’t magnetized?
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    The op is not making sense close thread


    No not yet!
    Xva23 said:

    Magneto can only manipulate ferromagnetic materials like iron and such. Plenty of weapons like batons are made of alloys and polymers to decrease weight and increase maneuverability. I.e, he can't control any metal object


    Is this why superior iron man isn’t magnetized?
    Superior IMs suit isn't metal because it's symbiote and biological material. It's literally a living suit, not made out of nanotech like IMIW or OG IM.
  • DjinDjin Member Posts: 1,962 ★★★★★
    edited June 2021

    Stealth Spidey, who barely has any metal content in his body gets the metal tag when against magneto but surprisingly BWDO with two damn electric batons doesn't. And also, why the hell does almost every champion get the metal tag? That's too extreme. Why not make everybody #metal since every has some iron in there blood even though that iron does not exist independently.

    Lol.... Remember you're taking about a game where Robots can be mind controlled.......

  • TitoBandito187TitoBandito187 Member Posts: 2,072 ★★★★
    edited June 2021
    Djin said:

    Stealth Spidey, who barely has any metal content in his body gets the metal tag when against magneto but surprisingly BWDO with two damn electric batons doesn't. And also, why the hell does almost every champion get the metal tag? That's too extreme. Why not make everybody #metal since every has some iron in there blood even though that iron does not exist independently.

    Lol.... Remember you're taking about a game where Robots can be mind controlled.......

    Yup, and let's also remember that comic book lore is pure imagination to begin with and the rules in the comics change all the time too. It all depends on the storyline of the writer. In this game, it's no different. We also have:

    A man who is as hot as nova flames, but doesn't burn through his man made suit...

    And dormammu and morningstar are impacted by regular incinerate (at least they fixed og GR)...

    And Iceman is impacted by coldsnap when fighting himself but not from his own abilities...

    And, oh yeah, there is an exact doppelganger of each champ that stands in an inverted position, cause that's super accurate for all of these comic book versions...

    And hulk sucks, when he should be a beast and at the very minimum, have at least resistance to bleed and incinerate debuffs. He freaking takes bullets, missiles and a lot more without much effort in the comics. Let's throw sentry in this category for fun too. And while we're at it some of the heralds of Galactus..

    And some swords don't cause bleed damage...

    And winter soldier can power drain...

    And huge guns magically appear out of nowhere and return the same way...

    And human level champs can hold their own against dimensional beings, cosmic entities and all sorts of things that would kill them just for stepping in the ring...

    And Magneto would have no problem manipulating most weapons to his advantage, so there should be more metal tag champs, but the game has to be balanced somehow...

    But, let's get mad at this one semi reasonable interaction... Especially when it's in both the champs description.
  • Denzel116Denzel116 Member Posts: 537 ★★★
    You lost to a champ you thought was #metal, ehh? It’s okay. Happens to the best of us lol.


    Sidenote - Magneto’s buff itself was BRILLIANT.
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  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,803 ★★★★★

    Denzel116 said:

    You lost to a champ you thought was #metal, ehh? It’s okay. Happens to the best of us lol.


    Sidenote - Magneto’s buff itself was BRILLIANT.

    I'm not saying it was useless. What I'm saying is that it was in no way perfectly done. They made some champs who clearly have no metal within them still get the metal tag but some clearly # metal deserving champs have no tag with them. It was a quick buff with little to no consideration for the rest of the game. Lots of the older Acts have him in certain question which would potentially make the game tougher for smaller/newer players. I'm cav and still irritated by this.
    ????
    There is still about two-thirds of all playable champs left to counter him, that's about 133 champs for you to use against him. It's an approximately but the point is, there are tons of champs to counter Mags. The only tough Mags I can think of for newer players is act 4.2.6 Mags but again, there are many counters to that too, especially healblockers and people with regen control.

    You're just irritated that you got destroyed by a Magneto or something. Ask for help or tips instead of complaining baselessly. Facing mags without metal champs is just a matter of dexing specials and remembering the unstoppable on heavy.
  • CrusherCrusher Member Posts: 305
    edited June 2021
    Xva23 said:

    Magneto can only manipulate ferromagnetic materials like iron and such. Plenty of weapons like batons are made of alloys and polymers to decrease weight and increase maneuverability. I.e, he can't control any metal object

    Nope he can control any type of metal...
    Either they are ferro, dia or para magnets..
    I don't know where you get this fact from ..but as far as i know he can control metal at their molecular level controlling the domains of molecules..
    And i also think he can't control matter at sub atomic level that's why he can't control plastic or carbon based things....in most of his versions
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,803 ★★★★★
    Crusher said:

    Xva23 said:

    Magneto can only manipulate ferromagnetic materials like iron and such. Plenty of weapons like batons are made of alloys and polymers to decrease weight and increase maneuverability. I.e, he can't control any metal object

    Nope he can control any type of metal...
    Either they are ferro, dia or para magnets..
    I don't know where you get this fact from ..but as far as i know he can control metal at their molecular level controlling the domains of molecules..
    And i also think he can't control matter at sub atomic level that's why he can't control plastic or carbon based things....in most of his versions
    What? He controls most metals by manipulating the electromagnetic fields around molecules or something. He can't control all metals. That's why many types of Sentinel were built with non-ferrous metals and plastic and they were used against him.
  • CrusherCrusher Member Posts: 305
    edited June 2021

    Crusher said:

    Xva23 said:

    Magneto can only manipulate ferromagnetic materials like iron and such. Plenty of weapons like batons are made of alloys and polymers to decrease weight and increase maneuverability. I.e, he can't control any metal object

    Nope he can control any type of metal...
    Either they are ferro, dia or para magnets..
    I don't know where you get this fact from ..but as far as i know he can control metal at their molecular level controlling the domains of molecules..
    And i also think he can't control matter at sub atomic level that's why he can't control plastic or carbon based things....in most of his versions
    What? He controls most metals by manipulating the electromagnetic fields around molecules or something. He can't control all metals. That's why many types of Sentinel were built with non-ferrous metals and plastic and they were used against him.
    Sentinals are made of unique polymers not metals.... He can control all type of metals ferrous or not.. may be there can be 1 or 2 excpetion..
    I can't think any of metal which can't be magnetized by manipulating molecules..
    And i am talking about...comic magneto
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    It’s super easy to figure it out: champs with the #Metal tag are considered metal in the game, and the rest are not. Kabam decides which ones get the tag. Roll with it.
  • ChaosMax1012ChaosMax1012 Member Posts: 3,113 ★★★★★

    Denzel116 said:

    You lost to a champ you thought was #metal, ehh? It’s okay. Happens to the best of us lol.


    Sidenote - Magneto’s buff itself was BRILLIANT.

    I'm not saying it was useless. What I'm saying is that it was in no way perfectly done. They made some champs who clearly have no metal within them still get the metal tag but some clearly # metal deserving champs have no tag with them. It was a quick buff with little to no consideration for the rest of the game. Lots of the older Acts have him in certain question which would potentially make the game tougher for smaller/newer players. I'm cav and still irritated by this.
    Dude nothing is gonna be perfect lmao. His buff is the best we’re ever gonna get so enjoy it. He isn’t that tough of a defender with a non metal champ.
  • ChaosMax1012ChaosMax1012 Member Posts: 3,113 ★★★★★

    Denzel116 said:

    You lost to a champ you thought was #metal, ehh? It’s okay. Happens to the best of us lol.


    Sidenote - Magneto’s buff itself was BRILLIANT.

    I'm not saying it was useless. What I'm saying is that it was in no way perfectly done. They made some champs who clearly have no metal within them still get the metal tag but some clearly # metal deserving champs have no tag with them. It was a quick buff with little to no consideration for the rest of the game. Lots of the older Acts have him in certain question which would potentially make the game tougher for smaller/newer players. I'm cav and still irritated by this.
    Btw you have a problem with the metal tag, not magneto.
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