I've done the fight with minimal difficulty using Claire Voyant but I agree with the creator of the thread. When you severely limit the champion pool it becomes less about skill and more about stress. I think they miss the mark on making things accessible and difficult more often than not. Sometimes they seem to get it .. other times it's like let's see what end game players say now while forgetting about the other 98% of the game's population lol
Still ... I've done the fight and I too think the way it is isn't really about skill but more so very specific champs. I mean it can "technically" be a LOOOOOONNNNGGGG slog with any champ but why introduce the stress of that in a so far fun event just to prove some point to end game players.
How is it champ specific when there are more than 15 champs that can inflict poison? And it was even made more roster encompassing than A6 by introducing a node that armor breaks him when you use a special on top of a node that gives him (and indirectly you) more power to throw specials?
well those 15 or so champs (really?? there's actually 15?? lol) ... that makes up less than a 2% of the champion pool doesn't it?? thus making it pretty specific lol
as i mentioned though .. you can "technically" do it with any champ .. even the ones that don't do poison if you want to sit through a 1000 hit win
i just think the point of these things is to make it difficult but not restrictive ... and keep in mind .. i've done it so I'm not on the side of those who can't finish it ... just saying I can certainly understand their frustration.
15/150 is 10%. 15/200 is 7.5%. Specific?
yep that's a pretty specific subset of champs that match well ... 7.5-10% of the available champs i'd say that's very specific.
I've done the fight with minimal difficulty using Claire Voyant but I agree with the creator of the thread. When you severely limit the champion pool it becomes less about skill and more about stress. I think they miss the mark on making things accessible and difficult more often than not. Sometimes they seem to get it .. other times it's like let's see what end game players say now while forgetting about the other 98% of the game's population lol
Still ... I've done the fight and I too think the way it is isn't really about skill but more so very specific champs. I mean it can "technically" be a LOOOOOONNNNGGGG slog with any champ but why introduce the stress of that in a so far fun event just to prove some point to end game players.
How is it champ specific when there are more than 15 champs that can inflict poison? And it was even made more roster encompassing than A6 by introducing a node that armor breaks him when you use a special on top of a node that gives him (and indirectly you) more power to throw specials?
well those 15 or so champs (really?? there's actually 15?? lol) ... that makes up less than a 2% of the champion pool doesn't it?? thus making it pretty specific lol
Damn for a sec I thought I fell into a coma, didn't realise there were 750 champs in the game
Ooof, i expected this fight to be in SoP, just not this early. Hate fighting mysterio, time to buckle up and endure the fight, haha. I hope im better at fighting this fishbowl at the end of this challenge.
I’m actually celebrating that it’s this week rather than anytime after.
(Think about clearing this fight with a 4* as a special objective….)
Looking forward to no retreat pre nerf the champion with the MSD and Swedeah challenges (aka, 2 star she hulk and 3 star Kamala).
Something more fun will be like “Defeat No Retreat Champion with a 4* without triggering No Retreat”.
Don't worry. Just use IHulk. Remember, Prof Hoff proved to everyone he's immune to no retreat.
It’s from Prof? Damn it’s gotta be real then.
Just like that terrible terrible bug where omega doesn’t start with death field from suicides if you have nick and dpx on the team, can’t believe that very clear and obvious bug isn’t pathched yet (yeah he actually made a vid on this, it was deleted pretty quick though)
I might just skip this fight on the virtue of hating Mysterio, lmao.
I dunno. I'll give it a shot when Diablo buff comes, I just wish I knew how his sig scaled so I know whether I should use the unduped 6*, or awaken and sig up the 5*.
Dang expiring sigstones. I thought I was opening 4* sig crystals, RIP.
Anyways, the other chance I have is Voodoo, but he's r4. I'd rather wait to see how Diablo does before I r5 another poison dealer.
I also have Ibom, but at 5r2, with science t4cc being the only one not in overflow. Again, rip.
Ooof, i expected this fight to be in SoP, just not this early. Hate fighting mysterio, time to buckle up and endure the fight, haha. I hope im better at fighting this fishbowl at the end of this challenge.
I’m actually celebrating that it’s this week rather than anytime after.
(Think about clearing this fight with a 4* as a special objective….)
Looking forward to no retreat pre nerf the champion with the MSD and Swedeah challenges (aka, 2 star she hulk and 3 star Kamala).
Something more fun will be like “Defeat No Retreat Champion with a 4* without triggering No Retreat”.
Don't worry. Just use IHulk. Remember, Prof Hoff proved to everyone he's immune to no retreat.
It’s from Prof? Damn it’s gotta be real then.
Just like that terrible terrible bug where omega doesn’t start with death field from suicides if you have nick and dpx on the team, can’t believe that very clear and obvious bug isn’t pathched yet (yeah he actually made a vid on this, it was deleted pretty quick though)
Being a Cav player I understand this content isn't going to be easy for me... I mean I'm at 6.3 and havent even finished variants.....with that being said I've completed the first 2 fights....in solo fashion too. Even if that's the end for me that's 10k 6 star shards for free .....this isn't going to be easy. Look at the rewards.... My hope, and any cav players hope should be that throughout the summer you might be able to beat a few of these fights.. you can only get to 6 points being cav so just skip this fight. If its that hard then hope you have a counter in a week or two.....I didn't think I could beat rogue or sinister but after watching and practice I beat both of them eventually.....and solo'd them.....
Ooof, i expected this fight to be in SoP, just not this early. Hate fighting mysterio, time to buckle up and endure the fight, haha. I hope im better at fighting this fishbowl at the end of this challenge.
I’m actually celebrating that it’s this week rather than anytime after.
(Think about clearing this fight with a 4* as a special objective….)
Looking forward to no retreat pre nerf the champion with the MSD and Swedeah challenges (aka, 2 star she hulk and 3 star Kamala).
Something more fun will be like “Defeat No Retreat Champion with a 4* without triggering No Retreat”.
Don't worry. Just use IHulk. Remember, Prof Hoff proved to everyone he's immune to no retreat.
It’s from Prof? Damn it’s gotta be real then.
Just like that terrible terrible bug where omega doesn’t start with death field from suicides if you have nick and dpx on the team, can’t believe that very clear and obvious bug isn’t pathched yet (yeah he actually made a vid on this, it was deleted pretty quick though)
Please tell me you’re joking. That’s actually more sad than funny.
HeY KabLaM whY cANt mY ReD GuarDiAn BeAt BufFed uP
Being a Cav player I understand this content isn't going to be easy for me... I mean I'm at 6.3 and havent even finished variants.....with that being said I've completed the first 2 fights....in solo fashion too. Even if that's the end for me that's 10k 6 star shards for free .....this isn't going to be easy. Look at the rewards.... My hope, and any cav players hope should be that throughout the summer you might be able to beat a few of these fights.. you can only get to 6 points being cav so just skip this fight. If its that hard then hope you have a counter in a week or two.....I didn't think I could beat rogue or sinister but after watching and practice I beat both of them eventually.....and solo'd them.....
@Wu_Bangerz23 You, my good sir, have the best outlook on this ever. Best of luck to you with the rest of SoP.
Ooof, i expected this fight to be in SoP, just not this early. Hate fighting mysterio, time to buckle up and endure the fight, haha. I hope im better at fighting this fishbowl at the end of this challenge.
I’m actually celebrating that it’s this week rather than anytime after.
(Think about clearing this fight with a 4* as a special objective….)
Looking forward to no retreat pre nerf the champion with the MSD and Swedeah challenges (aka, 2 star she hulk and 3 star Kamala).
Something more fun will be like “Defeat No Retreat Champion with a 4* without triggering No Retreat”.
Don't worry. Just use IHulk. Remember, Prof Hoff proved to everyone he's immune to no retreat.
It’s from Prof? Damn it’s gotta be real then.
Just like that terrible terrible bug where omega doesn’t start with death field from suicides if you have nick and dpx on the team, can’t believe that very clear and obvious bug isn’t pathched yet (yeah he actually made a vid on this, it was deleted pretty quick though)
This is supposed to be some of the hardest content ever released in the game.
There are 7 days available to do one fight - there's more than enough time to grind dozens of revives and potions, and get through the 1 fight with a less than ideal counter completely for free if that's the only option you have.
That being said, there are a bunch of counters that just about everyone has - Magneto being one of them.
This is supposed to be some of the hardest content ever released in the game.
There are 7 days available to do one fight - there's more than enough time to grind dozens of revives and potions, and get through the 1 fight with a less than ideal counter completely for free if that's the only option you have.
That being said, there are a bunch of counters that just about everyone has - Magneto being one of them.
did you try with magneto during your stream? i heard you say that you got him down to about 85% with 2 sp3s and then quit out when you still had 60% health, but I can't find the video for it
This is supposed to be some of the hardest content ever released in the game.
There are 7 days available to do one fight - there's more than enough time to grind dozens of revives and potions, and get through the 1 fight with a less than ideal counter completely for free if that's the only option you have.
That being said, there are a bunch of counters that just about everyone has - Magneto being one of them.
@Karatemike415 did you do it with Mags on live stream? I have a R3 mags as well but didn't think he'd work for it. I'd like to see how you used him.
Ooof, i expected this fight to be in SoP, just not this early. Hate fighting mysterio, time to buckle up and endure the fight, haha. I hope im better at fighting this fishbowl at the end of this challenge.
I’m actually celebrating that it’s this week rather than anytime after.
(Think about clearing this fight with a 4* as a special objective….)
Looking forward to no retreat pre nerf the champion with the MSD and Swedeah challenges (aka, 2 star she hulk and 3 star Kamala).
Something more fun will be like “Defeat No Retreat Champion with a 4* without triggering No Retreat”.
Don't worry. Just use IHulk. Remember, Prof Hoff proved to everyone he's immune to no retreat.
It’s from Prof? Damn it’s gotta be real then.
Just like that terrible terrible bug where omega doesn’t start with death field from suicides if you have nick and dpx on the team, can’t believe that very clear and obvious bug isn’t pathched yet (yeah he actually made a vid on this, it was deleted pretty quick though)
Please tell me you’re joking. That’s actually more sad than funny.
HeY KabLaM whY cANt mY ReD GuarDiAn BeAt BufFed uP
It's kinda wholesome in a funny way imo. The dude is absolutely clueless lol.
I mean whichever way you look at it he's got 50k subs, and probably makes a decent amount for watching other people's line videos with a voice over. Personally I respect the hustle.
Ooof, i expected this fight to be in SoP, just not this early. Hate fighting mysterio, time to buckle up and endure the fight, haha. I hope im better at fighting this fishbowl at the end of this challenge.
I’m actually celebrating that it’s this week rather than anytime after.
(Think about clearing this fight with a 4* as a special objective….)
Looking forward to no retreat pre nerf the champion with the MSD and Swedeah challenges (aka, 2 star she hulk and 3 star Kamala).
Something more fun will be like “Defeat No Retreat Champion with a 4* without triggering No Retreat”.
Don't worry. Just use IHulk. Remember, Prof Hoff proved to everyone he's immune to no retreat.
It’s from Prof? Damn it’s gotta be real then.
Just like that terrible terrible bug where omega doesn’t start with death field from suicides if you have nick and dpx on the team, can’t believe that very clear and obvious bug isn’t pathched yet (yeah he actually made a vid on this, it was deleted pretty quick though)
Please tell me you’re joking. That’s actually more sad than funny.
HeY KabLaM whY cANt mY ReD GuarDiAn BeAt BufFed uP
It's kinda wholesome in a funny way imo. The dude is absolutely clueless lol.
I mean whichever way you look at it he's got 50k subs, and probably makes a decent amount for watching other people's line videos with a voice over. Personally I respect the hustle.
I might just skip this fight on the virtue of hating Mysterio, lmao.
I dunno. I'll give it a shot when Diablo buff comes, I just wish I knew how his sig scaled so I know whether I should use the unduped 6*, or awaken and sig up the 5*.
Dang expiring sigstones. I thought I was opening 4* sig crystals, RIP.
Anyways, the other chance I have is Voodoo, but he's r4. I'd rather wait to see how Diablo does before I r5 another poison dealer.
I also have Ibom, but at 5r2, with science t4cc being the only one not in overflow. Again, rip.
This. Man I hate this mysterio AI. Fires heavy from across the screen for no reason. His animations freeze my phone a lot and the jittery AI nowadays makes his firing heavy worse. Still, keep trying for a week and if not a solo, then atleast a 2 shot will be acceptable for me.
I'm of two minds on this fight. I do feel a lot of people will think it's too niche. However, this is the first SoP fight that I've actually soloed, using iBom of course. Which means palookas like me are going to feel like this fights difficulty is on a sliding scale. It's a fairly easy fight with iBom, difficult with some others, but could become trivially easy for all if it were changed even slightly.
Woulda been real evil if Mysterio had been stun immune. Hardest part was dancing around and parrying while reflection was active without getting cornered.
Can you define "not a lot of good champs that can deal poison". What's not a lot to you?
Sure thing. The most recent list of poison-dealing champs I can find is this one from January of this year. I don't know if anything has changed in the last 6 months.
It lists 15 champs (well, 16, but Howard no longer deals poison after his buff, I think), out of which I would say around half a dozen are good enough to have ranked up at a 5 or 6* level. Immortal Abomination, Claire, Archangel, Apocalypse, Doctor Voodoo, and Mysterio himself. I guess Scarlet Witch is a 5* now as well, so let's count her in too. I don't know when the Diablo buff comes, but I think it's after this round of SOP, right? So I won't count him in as a decent/presumably ranked-up option.
It won't be a problem for me personally since I still have several of those champs, but it doesn't negate my disdain for those types of nodes where you restrict most champs' attack to near-unusability. That's just not my cup of tea, challenge-wise.
That said, I in no way support the idea of nerfing the boss. He is what he is and I see no particular reason to change him, even if I might voice my slight displeasure at certain things. But if I'm not good enough to beat him, there'll be more chances of beating future bosses. No sweat.
I'm not asking for this boss to be nerfed cuz that would incur disadvantages for all those who spent units on him All I'm saying is... pls make the next ones more skill based rather than roster-specific
If you have enough skill, a very wide range of roster will do. The main roster bottleneck is acid wash which doesn't preclude using champs, it just makes the fight a whole lot longer. A high enough degree of sustained skill can get past that.
It is important to remember this is a progression based game. This is not a juggling competition. Progress in this game is a function of player skill, player knowledge, and player roster. All three are considered equally important and equally valued. A larger roster can get away with less skill. A large skill level can get away with a smaller roster. The hardest difficulty in the game will require both. Expect the hardest content in the game to challenge all three.
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I dunno. I'll give it a shot when Diablo buff comes, I just wish I knew how his sig scaled so I know whether I should use the unduped 6*, or awaken and sig up the 5*.
Dang expiring sigstones. I thought I was opening 4* sig crystals, RIP.
Anyways, the other chance I have is Voodoo, but he's r4. I'd rather wait to see how Diablo does before I r5 another poison dealer.
I also have Ibom, but at 5r2, with science t4cc being the only one not in overflow. Again, rip.
HeY KabLaM whY cANt mY ReD GuarDiAn BeAt BufFed uP
It's not called the summer of pain for nothing.
This is exactly what this content is about
There are 7 days available to do one fight - there's more than enough time to grind dozens of revives and potions, and get through the 1 fight with a less than ideal counter completely for free if that's the only option you have.
That being said, there are a bunch of counters that just about everyone has - Magneto being one of them.
I mean whichever way you look at it he's got 50k subs, and probably makes a decent amount for watching other people's line videos with a voice over. Personally I respect the hustle.
Tried again off-stream, same results.
Point being - he's definitely an option with a few revives... and a champion that just about everyone has.
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Woulda been real evil if Mysterio had been stun immune. Hardest part was dancing around and parrying while reflection was active without getting cornered.
It lists 15 champs (well, 16, but Howard no longer deals poison after his buff, I think), out of which I would say around half a dozen are good enough to have ranked up at a 5 or 6* level. Immortal Abomination, Claire, Archangel, Apocalypse, Doctor Voodoo, and Mysterio himself. I guess Scarlet Witch is a 5* now as well, so let's count her in too. I don't know when the Diablo buff comes, but I think it's after this round of SOP, right? So I won't count him in as a decent/presumably ranked-up option.
It won't be a problem for me personally since I still have several of those champs, but it doesn't negate my disdain for those types of nodes where you restrict most champs' attack to near-unusability. That's just not my cup of tea, challenge-wise.
That said, I in no way support the idea of nerfing the boss. He is what he is and I see no particular reason to change him, even if I might voice my slight displeasure at certain things. But if I'm not good enough to beat him, there'll be more chances of beating future bosses. No sweat.
It is important to remember this is a progression based game. This is not a juggling competition. Progress in this game is a function of player skill, player knowledge, and player roster. All three are considered equally important and equally valued. A larger roster can get away with less skill. A large skill level can get away with a smaller roster. The hardest difficulty in the game will require both. Expect the hardest content in the game to challenge all three.