Thoughts on America Chavez?

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  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★
    I think I might be misunderstanding her kit, but her dimension effects seem pretty low to me… idk. The values presented seem like they’re lacking.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,960 ★★★★★
    she looks… neat? I think I’m going to need to read this a couple more times to figure out exactly what’s going on in her kit
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,407 ★★★★★
    Ill need to test her as reading abilities seem bit complicated than most for me
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,960 ★★★★★

    Am I stupid or does she have no utility

    She has some if I’m reading correctly
  • Hera1d_of_Ga1actusHera1d_of_Ga1actus Member Posts: 2,440 ★★★★★

    Am I stupid or does she have no utility

    She has some if I’m reading correctly
    Which is what exactly? I’m seeing that she has a sort of weak petrify that only affects power gains, reducing buff potency seems kinda bad since most mystics just totally remove the buffs, and a damage back for putting her on defense. She gains power but it doesn’t seem like it’s gonna create some insane chains
  • PizzaGuy245PizzaGuy245 Member Posts: 45
    edited July 2021
    well uh, that's a... Weird champ?
    I don't really see any utility at all, or immunities... She seems like a champ to throw on defense, but honestly, i'm not even sure if she's good for that.. Cool damage potential though? Maybe?

    By the way, what the hell is a wither effect? Has anyone seen it before?
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,960 ★★★★★

    Am I stupid or does she have no utility

    She has some if I’m reading correctly
    Which is?
    The buff potency reduction, the power rate reduction, the damage reflect, (don’t see why it’s capped though) the energy resistance and the regen.

    I think stuff will be a lot clearer once she is available to play
  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★

    It sounds like she needs a phasing mechanic like Silver Surfer with how dependent she is on heavy's.

    she’s got the stun mechanic like wasp instead. Gives less power but I still better then nothing
    Oh wow, I mis-read that. I thought it gave less power to the enemy similar to Emma Frost but no, it seems to indicate less power for you.... ouch that sucks.
  • MrInsanityMrInsanity Member Posts: 1,539 ★★★★

    Am I stupid or does she have no utility

    She has some if I’m reading correctly
    Which is?
    The buff potency reduction, the power rate reduction, the damage reflect, (don’t see why it’s capped though) the energy resistance and the regen.

    I think stuff will be a lot clearer once she is available to play

    Am I stupid or does she have no utility

    She has some if I’m reading correctly
    Which is what exactly? I’m seeing that she has a sort of weak petrify that only affects power gains, reducing buff potency seems kinda bad since most mystics just totally remove the buffs, and a damage back for putting her on defense. She gains power but it doesn’t seem like it’s gonna create some insane chains
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,960 ★★★★★
    No_oneuk said:

    It sounds like she needs a phasing mechanic like Silver Surfer with how dependent she is on heavy's.

    she’s got the stun mechanic like wasp instead. Gives less power but I still better then nothing
    Oh wow, I mis-read that. I thought it gave less power to the enemy similar to Emma Frost but no, it seems to indicate less power for you.... ouch that sucks.
    wait is it less power on the opponent? or is it for both since it just says generate?
  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★
    So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

    For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

    For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

    How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.
  • BuffBeastBuffBeast Member Posts: 1,075 ★★★★
    No_oneuk said:

    So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

    For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

    For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

    How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

    I think you just spam sp3 until 9 dimensions
  • Hera1d_of_Ga1actusHera1d_of_Ga1actus Member Posts: 2,440 ★★★★★
    No_oneuk said:

    So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

    For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

    For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

    How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

    Wrong, it’s each UNIQUE one, so each one counts once. So those bonuses only stack 3 times 🤣. I also really thought she could have an insane attack bonus but my dreams were smashed
  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★
    edited July 2021
    Am I right in thinking that, sp3 activates all 3 dimensions once, that seems to last for 30 seconds, and then you have to do parry heavy to activate more, each lasting 20% longer (second is 24 sec, third is 19.2 seconds). I don't feel that I could have 9 dimensions up at once, maybe for a few seconds?

    Edit: whoops nvm I got that wrong...
  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★
    edited July 2021

    No_oneuk said:

    So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

    For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

    For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

    How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

    Wrong, it’s each UNIQUE one, so each one counts once. So those bonuses only stack 3 times 🤣. I also really thought she could have an insane attack bonus but my dreams were smashed
    Oh right, each unique.... good point! Seems strange that they'd say max 9 stacks then tbh - but unique definitely means unique haha.

    I suppose then you sp3 to activate all 3, hopefully they are permanent and not 30 second duration - sp2 also gives you access to a unique 4th dimension so you can have 4 dimensions up at most at once?
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,019 ★★★★★
    No_oneuk said:

    So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

    For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

    For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

    How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

    Not very, seems like you can’t hold more then six if you’re lucky
  • SaiyanSaiyan Member Posts: 727 ★★★★
    I'm waiting to see how she is when she's out before I decide if she's bad or good.

    My only question is, what the hell is a Wither debuff? That seems like it's not in game yet and will soon be. Am I wrong?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,437 ★★★★★
    Saiyan said:

    I'm waiting to see how she is when she's out before I decide if she's bad or good.

    My only question is, what the hell is a Wither debuff? That seems like it's not in game yet and will soon be. Am I wrong?

    I believe it's already in game. I think it's similar to weakness or fatigue.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Saiyan said:

    I'm waiting to see how she is when she's out before I decide if she's bad or good.

    My only question is, what the hell is a Wither debuff? That seems like it's not in game yet and will soon be. Am I wrong?

    It was supposed to be in the new attacker tactics, so this will technically be the introduction for it but it was supposed to be here already
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    I mean with any new champ, there are fun synergies, and at least somewhat complicated kits. Even with someone like Super-Skrull who’s just terrible, he still has some good synergies. It’s good to know we’ll never have someone like Cyclops ever again
  • magnus_xixmagnus_xix Member Posts: 2,027 ★★★★★
    I assume her rotation will be something like this.

    - MLLLM until you're at 0.5 or 1.5 bars of power
    - MLLLH which will give you the negative zone dimension
    - MLLLH cancel the 2nd hit into a sp1. This will give you the dark dimension and 80% of a bar of power
    - MLLLH cancel the 1st hit into a sp2. This will give you the utopian parallel dimension and the big bang dimension.
    - MLLLH cancel the 1st hit into sp1. This will give you 120%/160%* of a bar of power and another utopian parallel dimension
    - MLLLH cancel the 1st hit into a sp2. This will give you a 3rd utopian parallel dimension and another big bang dimension

    By this point the opponent should be dead especially if you're able to stack big bang dimensions.

    *Not sure if the big bang dimension lasts for 30 seconds like her other dimensions do.
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