Thoughts on America Chavez?

https://playcontestofchampions.com/champion-spotlight-america-chavez/

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I think I might be misunderstanding her kit, but her dimension effects seem pretty low to me… idk. The values presented seem like they’re lacking.

SpideyFunko

she looks… neat? I think I’m going to need to read this a couple more times to figure out exactly what’s going on in her kit

Bendy

Ill need to test her as reading abilities seem bit complicated than most for me

MrInsanity

Am I stupid or does she have no utility

BuffBeast

Ngl the cap on the damage reflect is kinda lame

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SpideyFunko

Am I stupid or does she have no utility

She has some if I’m reading correctly

SpideyFunko

It sounds like she needs a phasing mechanic like Silver Surfer with how dependent she is on heavy's.

she’s got the stun mechanic like wasp instead. Gives less power but I still better then nothing

Deacon

Sounds complicated to remember all of these parallel dimensions she can activate lol

MrInsanity

Am I stupid or does she have no utility
She has some if I’m reading correctly

Which is?

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

Am I stupid or does she have no utility
She has some if I’m reading correctly

Which is what exactly? I’m seeing that she has a sort of weak petrify that only affects power gains, reducing buff potency seems kinda bad since most mystics just totally remove the buffs, and a damage back for putting her on defense. She gains power but it doesn’t seem like it’s gonna create some insane chains

PizzaGuy245

well uh, that's a... Weird champ?
I don't really see any utility at all, or immunities... She seems like a champ to throw on defense, but honestly, i'm not even sure if she's good for that.. Cool damage potential though? Maybe?

By the way, what the hell is a wither effect? Has anyone seen it before?

SpideyFunko

Am I stupid or does she have no utility
She has some if I’m reading correctly
Which is?

The buff potency reduction, the power rate reduction, the damage reflect, (don’t see why it’s capped though) the energy resistance and the regen.

I think stuff will be a lot clearer once she is available to play

No_oneuk

It sounds like she needs a phasing mechanic like Silver Surfer with how dependent she is on heavy's.
she’s got the stun mechanic like wasp instead. Gives less power but I still better then nothing

Oh wow, I mis-read that. I thought it gave less power to the enemy similar to Emma Frost but no, it seems to indicate less power for you.... ouch that sucks.

MrInsanity

Am I stupid or does she have no utility
She has some if I’m reading correctly
Which is?
The buff potency reduction, the power rate reduction, the damage reflect, (don’t see why it’s capped though) the energy resistance and the regen.

I think stuff will be a lot clearer once she is available to play

Am I stupid or does she have no utility
She has some if I’m reading correctly
Which is what exactly? I’m seeing that she has a sort of weak petrify that only affects power gains, reducing buff potency seems kinda bad since most mystics just totally remove the buffs, and a damage back for putting her on defense. She gains power but it doesn’t seem like it’s gonna create some insane chains

SpideyFunko

It sounds like she needs a phasing mechanic like Silver Surfer with how dependent she is on heavy's.
she’s got the stun mechanic like wasp instead. Gives less power but I still better then nothing
Oh wow, I mis-read that. I thought it gave less power to the enemy similar to Emma Frost but no, it seems to indicate less power for you.... ouch that sucks.

wait is it less power on the opponent? or is it for both since it just says generate?

No_oneuk

So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

BuffBeast

So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

I think you just spam sp3 until 9 dimensions

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

Wrong, it’s each UNIQUE one, so each one counts once. So those bonuses only stack 3 times 🤣. I also really thought she could have an insane attack bonus but my dreams were smashed

No_oneuk

Am I right in thinking that, sp3 activates all 3 dimensions once, that seems to last for 30 seconds, and then you have to do parry heavy to activate more, each lasting 20% longer (second is 24 sec, third is 19.2 seconds). I don't feel that I could have 9 dimensions up at once, maybe for a few seconds?

Edit: whoops nvm I got that wrong...

Demonzfyre

Spideyfunko is KDsuperflash confirmed.

JK.

Spotlights are never a great way to tell if a champ is good or not. We've been wrong on so many occasions.

No_oneuk

So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.
Wrong, it’s each UNIQUE one, so each one counts once. So those bonuses only stack 3 times 🤣. I also really thought she could have an insane attack bonus but my dreams were smashed

Oh right, each unique.... good point! Seems strange that they'd say max 9 stacks then tbh - but unique definitely means unique haha.

I suppose then you sp3 to activate all 3, hopefully they are permanent and not 30 second duration - sp2 also gives you access to a unique 4th dimension so you can have 4 dimensions up at most at once?

SkyLord7000

So if you get 9 dimensions you get a +5263.92 fury and +2577.24 energy resist.

For comparison Nick Fury in his second life gives +5389.20 fury and Doom after one sp3 gets +4988.10 fury.

For comparison Guardian at sig 200 gets +8591.92 energy resist and Sorcerer Supreme has a natural +2150 energy resist.

How accessible 9 dimensions is, I can't wrap my head around though.

Not very, seems like you can’t hold more then six if you’re lucky

Saiyan

I'm waiting to see how she is when she's out before I decide if she's bad or good.

My only question is, what the hell is a Wither debuff? That seems like it's not in game yet and will soon be. Am I wrong?

Demonzfyre

I'm waiting to see how she is when she's out before I decide if she's bad or good.

My only question is, what the hell is a Wither debuff? That seems like it's not in game yet and will soon be. Am I wrong?

I believe it's already in game. I think it's similar to weakness or fatigue.

TheBair123

I mean with any new champ, there are fun synergies, and at least somewhat complicated kits. Even with someone like Super-Skrull who’s just terrible, he still has some good synergies. It’s good to know we’ll never have someone like Cyclops ever again

The_Sentry06

Her utility:

-Reduces armor up, fury and cruelty potency by 70%. Kinda meh imo. Fury and cruelty potency is useless unless you want to face surging vengeance or whatever that node is which builds furies on the attacker. Armor up could be useful if you face opponents with lot's of armor ups like the 90% armor node or Colossus or CW.

-Reduces opponent power gain rate by 60%. This isn't combat power rate (or is it? I'm confused) and the opponent still gains 40% of the power they would so this is again kinda meh, should have been 100%.

- She has +286.36 energy resistance per dimension active. Max stacks is 9 and we don't know how practical it is given the -20% duration on for each matching stack, but at 9 stacks, this adds up to +2577.24 which is miles off Guardian's and YJ's energy resistance.

-Gains 40% of a bar of power per dimension active. Ngl, this could have some cheesy and fun interactions with power sheild and nodes that enhance special damage ig.

-Regens 12% of hit damage on the final 3 hits of sp2. If her numbers are good, this could actually be decent and not be non-existent like Purgatory's. This is further amplified by a synergy with She-Hulk I believe.

-Reduces unstoppable buff duration by 50% with a synergy. Again looks meh.

Overally, she has some utility but imo, her way of dealing with buffs could be better. She doesn't do anything a mystic typically does well (on paper) but could have some nice unexpected interactions with nodes and stuff since she's got a lot of little details in her like the passive stun, energy damage on sp2, etc.

Hopefully she has good damage and the -20% dimension duration isn't too limiting and she'll probably be a solid champ. Not on the level of Shang-Chi but Spider-Ham and Red Hulk and Jubilee's level.

magnus_xix

I assume her rotation will be something like this.

- MLLLM until you're at 0.5 or 1.5 bars of power
- MLLLH which will give you the negative zone dimension
- MLLLH cancel the 2nd hit into a sp1. This will give you the dark dimension and 80% of a bar of power
- MLLLH cancel the 1st hit into a sp2. This will give you the utopian parallel dimension and the big bang dimension.
- MLLLH cancel the 1st hit into sp1. This will give you 120%/160%* of a bar of power and another utopian parallel dimension
- MLLLH cancel the 1st hit into a sp2. This will give you a 3rd utopian parallel dimension and another big bang dimension

By this point the opponent should be dead especially if you're able to stack big bang dimensions.

*Not sure if the big bang dimension lasts for 30 seconds like her other dimensions do.

magnus_xix

-Reduces opponent power gain rate by 60%. This isn't combat power rate (or is it? I'm confused) and the opponent still gains 40% of the power they would so this is again kinda meh, should have been 100%.

Ability power gain is the power gained from stuff like power gain buffs and the spite node. 2 heavies and their power rate will be in the negatives meaning you'll be essentially power draining them

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

@The_Sentry06, btw, all the bonuses that incorporate the dimensions say UNIQUE, which only equates to 3. Not the 9 total that she can acquire